Rights Group Calls for Cheney Arrest-in Vancouver

talloola

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Protesting is their right, but once they put their hands on other people's equipment, they've just violated their rights! :smile:

are you saying a tree is another persons equipment? The protestors didn't believe that, the trees
as far as they were concerned belonged to all of us, and should have stayed in the earth. Just because
a corporation claims to 'own' trees, doesn't mean it is right, it is the corporations deciding how to
divide up the earth, everyone doesn't agree with that.

we should all see the other side of everything, not just our own. corporations are greedy bastards for
the most part, and there needs to be some control over that also.

money, mine, ours, power, push, shove, take, and not give a care about our earth, or anyone else on it.

I laughed and made fun of those tree huggers too, but in hind sight, they left me thinking, and watching
and in the long run it made a difference to our forests. No, all of it wasn't wise, but they were up
against giants, and had no power whatsoever, and writing a letter would have been a joke.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Geez, don't get an ulcer over them. We ain't paying their pensions. :lol:

That isn't the point at all. Could care less who is paying their pensions. What I do care about is their various policies of inhumanity.

The Torture policy is about as low as a targetted assassination. Both are so barbaric , it reduces the US (G) to the level of the folks they claim to be fighting & eradicating. IF the US is going to regain being the symbol for Peace, freedom , human rights , ethics , legality Then it cannot go on behaving like an impuslive, vengeful, greedy little todler that is prepared to torture , assassiate and war its way across the planet ........as that is what it has been doing.

Those that condone this kind of conduct in a so called free and civilized world are condemning it to barbarism.

Could care less about Cheney as a person. He is irrelavent by virtue of his persona. What matters is he and his inner group in highler levels of washington during the bush-boy years committed crimes...... that they believe they can get away with on the basis of how "badly they were hurt " on 9-11 and under what they define as rules during war. Seems that rules during war are even more critical as too many horrific things do and can happen.

However.........if folks consider their actions acceptable...... there is not much anyone can do ......except watch society deteriorate even further where the most atrocious acts are just fine. And then we are no different from those that we are told are the "enemy"
 

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That isn't the point at all. Could care less who is paying their pensions. What I do care about is their various policies of inhumanity.

The Torture policy is about as low as a targetted assassination. Both are so barbaric , it reduces the US (G) to the level of the folks they claim to be fighting & eradicating. IF the US is going to regain being the symbol for Peace, freedom , human rights , ethics , legality Then it cannot go on behaving like an impuslive, vengeful, greedy little todler that is prepared to torture , assassiate and war its way across the planet ........as that is what it has been doing.

Those that condone this kind of conduct in a so called free and civilized world are condemning it to barbarism.

Could care less about Cheney as a person. He is irrelavent by virtue of his persona. What matters is he and his inner group in highler levels of washington during the bush-boy years committed crimes...... that they believe they can get away with on the basis of how "badly they were hurt " on 9-11 and under what they define as rules during war. Seems that rules during war are even more critical as too many horrific things do and can happen.

However.........if folks consider their actions acceptable...... there is not much anyone can do ......except watch society deteriorate even further where the most atrocious acts are just fine. And then we are no different from those that we are told are the "enemy"
So much for that sense jurisprudence you implied you had.
 

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No they Fuked it up.

Actually the cost of human civilian lives at the hands of the U.S. Britain etc. was quite low, it was infrastructure that mainly took the hit. Loss of lives was mainly caused by the insurgents.

That isn't the point at all. Could care less who is paying their pensions. What I do care about is their various policies of inhumanity.

The Torture policy is about as low as a targetted assassination. Both are so barbaric , it reduces the US (G) to the level of the folks they claim to be fighting & eradicating. IF the US is going to regain being the symbol for Peace, freedom , human rights , ethics , legality Then it cannot go on behaving like an impuslive, vengeful, greedy little todler that is prepared to torture , assassiate and war its way across the planet ........as that is what it has been doing.

Those that condone this kind of conduct in a so called free and civilized world are condemning it to barbarism.

Could care less about Cheney as a person. He is irrelavent by virtue of his persona. What matters is he and his inner group in highler levels of washington during the bush-boy years committed crimes...... that they believe they can get away with on the basis of how "badly they were hurt " on 9-11 and under what they define as rules during war. Seems that rules during war are even more critical as too many horrific things do and can happen.

However.........if folks consider their actions acceptable...... there is not much anyone can do ......except watch society deteriorate even further where the most atrocious acts are just fine. And then we are no different from those that we are told are the "enemy"

We're talking war here, not a game of Run Sheep Run at a Sunday School picnic.
 

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Actually the cost of human civilian lives at the hands of the U.S. Britain etc. was quite low, it was infrastructure that mainly took the hit. Loss of lives was mainly caused by the insurgents.



We're talking war here, not a game of Run Sheep Run at a Sunday School picnic.

And now we have another Shia theocracy coming on line- Sunni`s will be treated like crap - Iran increases their presence.
Like I said - Fuked it up.
 

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From the article...


"Mr. Cheney accepted an invitation to speak in Vancouver from a local book club. Approximately 250 men and women gathered outside the Vancouver Club to protest his visit. “We’re very angry that he has chosen Vancouver as the first location outside of the United States to do a book tour event,” one protest organizer told reporters, “and we feel it’s important that citizens of Vancouver show that we won’t tolerate a war criminal coming and speaking in our town…We hope to set an example that Cheney doesn’t see Canada as a safe haven.”




As far as I know he hasn't been convicted of a crime and Canada still has the freedom of speech (sort of).



"We hope to set an example that Cheney doesn’t see Canada as a safe haven.”

We can see that!
 

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Actually the cost of human civilian lives at the hands of the U.S. Britain etc. was quite low, it was infrastructure that mainly took the hit. Loss of lives was mainly caused by the insurgents.



We're talking war here, not a game of Run Sheep Run at a Sunday School picnic.

Like I said. Seems that being at war. Starting a war and prolonging it indefinately gives the authors of such actions more liberty to do as they wish , break humanitarian rules.

If following humanitarian rules is on the level of some silly game than YOU have no ;regard for human beings in general...... and simply cannot see anything beyond revenge and the barbarism it involves. Just another example of how slow evolution really is.

IF you think waterboarding and other torture forms are just fine........why not move to a country that participates in them. Like to the south of Canada. You don't even have to move far. Then you can have all the wars and torture you can handle. Not only that........ you will lose something called freedom of speach. As should you utter words that are included in the american terrorist handbook...... well, you get the picture.

Actually the cost of human civilian lives at the hands of the U.S. Britain etc. was quite low

Keep telling yourself that . Amazing how far some will go to minimize the degree of atrocities committed just to make it seem "acceptable"

When it comes to ELECTIVE wars of choice......based on Lies.............ONE death is too many.
 

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Like I said. Seems that being at war. Starting a war and prolonging it indefinately gives the authors of such actions more liberty to do as they wish , break humanitarian rules.

If following humanitarian rules is on the level of some silly game than YOU have no ;regard for human beings in general...... and simply cannot see anything beyond revenge and the barbarism it involves. Just another example of how slow evolution really is.

IF you think waterboarding and other torture forms are just fine........why not move to a country that participates in them. Like to the south of Canada. You don't even have to move far. Then you can have all the wars and torture you can handle.

There is no ignore button when it comes to terrorists...Breezy
 

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Keep telling yourself that . Amazing how far some will go to minimize the degree of atrocities committed just to make it seem "acceptable"

When it comes to ELECTIVE wars of choice......based on Lies.............ONE death is too many.

Go make me a sandwich.
 

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From the article...


"Mr. Cheney accepted an invitation to speak in Vancouver from a local book club. Approximately 250 men and women gathered outside the Vancouver Club to protest his visit. “We’re very angry that he has chosen Vancouver as the first location outside of the United States to do a book tour event,” one protest organizer told reporters, “and we feel it’s important that citizens of Vancouver show that we won’t tolerate a war criminal coming and speaking in our town…We hope to set an example that Cheney doesn’t see Canada as a safe haven.”




As far as I know he hasn't been convicted of a crime and Canada still has the freedom of speech (sort of).



"We hope to set an example that Cheney doesn’t see Canada as a safe haven.”

We can see that!

Well, I just watched the evening news and these protestors impeded the ability of those who wanted to see Cheney to reach the venue, so I think a person's right to protest end when he/she starts impeding other's rights like (of assembly)

Ocean Breeze; When it comes to ELECTIVE wars of choice......based on Lies.............[B said:
ONE [/B]death is too many.

Your credibility is waning fast. Of course one death is too many.........................does that mean pedestrians crossing the street should cease and desist? What about the sport of parachuting?
 

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Well, I just watched the evening news and these protestors impeded the ability of those who wanted to see Cheney to reach the venue, so I think a person's right to protest end when he/she starts impeding other's rights like (of assembly)

You should know by now that freedom of speech is only for the lefties and ultra-libs. All speech that they do not agree with must be silenced at all costs. And yes, even if it infringes on other people's rights.
 
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You should know by now that freedom of speech is only for the lefties and ultra-libs. All speech that they do not agree with must be silenced at all costs. And yes, even if it infringes on other people's rights.

Funny how that works, eh?

The left is all for freedom of speech (especially their own) right up to the point to which they disagree at which time they seek to silence all dissenting opinion via claiming some sort of rights violation.

Add into the mix this horse sh*t about Americans "torturing" those poor wee little terrorist lambs... I have yet to hear any of the usual suspects recognize, let alone condemn the actions of those same terrorist orgs that perpetuate the live beheadings, dragging the bodies of their enemies through the streets or summary hangings from bridges.
 

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I have yet to hear any of the usual suspects recognize, let alone condemn the actions of those same terrorist orgs that perpetuate the live beheadings, dragging the bodies of their enemies through the streets or summary hangings from bridges.
Which terrorist organizations sanctioned such events? Give names so we can lambaste them.