Pope Says Gay Marriage Poses A Threat To 'Justice And Peace'

eh1eh

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LOL. Religion proves itself irrelevant each and everyday.
This is a triumph for truth, science and common sense every where.
No worries though, the RCC should forgive the gays and the people who use condoms in about the year 2400 or so.
 

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Yup, how dare people think about the protection of our most vulnerable and helpless. They should just follow the crowd and stfu, right tax?

The most vunerable people are the pregnant women. A fetus is not a person. But then the catholic church has never had much regard for women or their rights.
 

gerryh

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See what happens when you listen to intelligent people? You learn things instead of just repeating myths from an evil cult leader.


of course, you're right. Thinking for myself should not be allowed. I should think and act just like you and your kind and then everything will be all right.
 

eh1eh

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of course, you're right. Thinking for myself should not be allowed. I should think and act just like you and your kind and then everything will be all right.

Don't be silly. You should think as your religion dictates. Thinking for yourself is for people outside religion.
 

gerryh

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Don't be silly. You should think as your religion dictates. Thinking for yourself is for people outside religion.

Obviously not. since |I |DO think for myself and do NOT agree with everything that the RCC and the Pope mandates. You on the other hand expect me to follow you you hand in hand and if what I think happens to coincide with what some Church also believes than I am just a sucker that has been sucked in by the Church....... as opposed to a brainless wonder like you that believes whatever he has been told by other brainless wonders rather than thinking for himself.
 

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I'm still waiting for someone to prove to me how someone's sexual preference renders them so dangerous to justice or peace. If what they do is not against the law, how can it threaten justice? How does what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedrooms constitute any threat to peace? The pope is the one preaching intolerance and hatred...
 

gerryh

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I'm still waiting for someone to prove to me how someone's sexual preference renders them so dangerous to justice or peace. If what they do is not against the law, how can it threaten justice? How does what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedrooms constitute any threat to peace? The pope is the one preaching intolerance and hatred...


It can't and isn't. The policy of the Church is wrong headed, and in the long run, detrimental to peace and justice.
 

eh1eh

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Obviously not. since |I |DO think for myself and do NOT agree with everything that the RCC and the Pope mandates. You on the other hand expect me to follow you you hand in hand and if what I think happens to coincide with what some Church also believes than I am just a sucker that has been sucked in by the Church....... as opposed to a brainless wonder like you that believes whatever he has been told by other brainless wonders rather than thinking for himself.

I missed the part where I think like them or that you should follow me.
I'll just continue being a freeman you follow what you will in any fashion you desire, brainless or thoughtful. Be warned though, doing so is not in line with religion at all.

It can't and isn't. The policy of the Church is wrong headed, and in the long run, detrimental to peace and justice.

Seems we may actually be on the same wave length after all.
 

gerryh

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I missed the part where I think like them or that you should follow me.
I'll just continue being a freeman you follow what you will in any fashion you desire, brainless or thoughtful. Be warned though, doing so is not in line with religion at all.


What the hell makes you think that "I" need to fall in line with what any "man" says about religion? The more and more you type, the more and more you come across as one of these unthinking hypocrites that slams and slanders anyone that states they are Christian or has some beliefs that fall in line with an existing religion without really finding out "what" they believe all the while following the "anti-religion" line to the "t".
 

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Anyway, the pope can have his opinion, even if it is a pile of nonsense. I just wish that people would leave others to their own business. If there are gods, let them deal with it.
Oh, and BTW, Serryah, the pope is no god's mouthpiece; he's the RCC's mouthpiece.

I know he's just the RCC mouthpiece; being god's mouthpiece is sarcasm on my part.

Actually I don't even think he's the RCC's mouthpiece. He's his own mouthpiece, and the rest of the RCC faithful, like the sheeple/bobbleheads they are, just agree because he's the "top dog" and are afraid to go to hell if they don't agree.
 

gerryh

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I know he's just the RCC mouthpiece; being god's mouthpiece is sarcasm on my part.

Actually I don't even think he's the RCC's mouthpiece. He's his own mouthpiece, and the rest of the RCC faithful, like the sheeple/bobbleheads they are, just agree because he's the "top dog" and are afraid to go to hell if they don't agree.


:roll:
 

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I'm still waiting for someone to prove to me how someone's sexual preference renders them so dangerous to justice or peace. If what they do is not against the law, how can it threaten justice? How does what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedrooms constitute any threat to peace? The pope is the one preaching intolerance and hatred...


It's not what the gays do, it's how others react to what they do. You and I may accept it and think in peaceul and just ways but not everybody does.



Society in general still hasn't adjusted to open homosexuality, let alone gay marriages.
 

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Clerical sexual abuse is not a question of homosexuality or heterosexuality. It is an issue of celibacy in the Latin Rite. And, an issue of concealment as practised by the hierarchy.

By the way, the Pope can say anything he wishes to the faithful. The faithful have every right to ignore him. And, you know...

Absolutely incorrect.. celibacy is a function of monasticism.. a characteristic of a religious vocation, not only in Roman Catholicism.. there are Buddhist monastaries and many others. It is associated with deep mysticism and communion with God through ascetic contemplation

The sexual abuse standard has nothing to do with a religious vocation. In the period following Vatican 2, and the current of the social and especially sexual revolutions of the 60s and 70s.. an organized attack from within the homosexual community targeted the Church.. by proffering candidates posing as those with an authentic calling.. but really looking for a false credibility for a single life.. and the potential to victimize young people from a position of authority and trust.

This had nothing to do with celibacy, the abusers were not celibate and had no interest in celibacy. That has been with the Church since its earliest history.. starting with the 'men of the desert' and finally being accepted as a requirement of a priestly vocation at the end of the first millennium. About 96% of Catholic priest are authentically celibate... It is the other and fraudulent 4% that wreaked devastation of the victims and the Church.

And you can ignore the Pope's message at your peril. His caveat is that you cannot incorporate a fundamentally disordered agent into the edifice laws and institutions of a nation.. a nation is defined by those laws and institutions.. without compromising the moral integrity of the entire structure. It will unravel the integrity of that framework.. and then turn on you with avengeance.

This is not an innocuous and insignificant initiative in the interest of 'diversity'. It is the opening of the gates of our civilization to a voracious predator. That is the nature of Evil.. you cannot negotiate with it.. and you cannot compromise with it.. nothing it says can be trusted.. and nothing you offer to it will satisfy it.

You are kidding yourself if you thing this will end at 'marriage'. What they want is full on affirmation and recruitment with in school and church yards into homosexuality.. and what they want is the criminalization of any opposition to that under the aegis of a 'hate' crime.. especially by organized religion.

Their are no limits to their ambition.. and they have through the sheer ignorance of our politically correct.. morally bankrupted society.. found an target that refuses to acknowledge that is is even under attack.
 
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Absolutely incorrect.. celibacy is a function of monasticism.. a characteristic of a religious vocation, not only in Roman Catholicism.. there are Buddhist monastaries and many others. It is associated with deep mysticism and communion with God through ascetic contemplation

The sexual abuse standard has nothing to do with a religious vocation. In the period following Vatican 2, and the current of the social and especially sexual revolutions of the 60s and 70s.. an organized attack from within the homosexual community targeted the Church.. by proffering candidates posing as those with an authentic calling.. but really looking for a false credibility for a single life.. and the potential to victimize young people from a position of authority and trust.

This had nothing to do with celibacy, the abusers were not celibate and had no interest in celibacy. That has been with the Church since its earliest history.. starting with the 'men of the desert' and finally being accepted as a requirement of a priestly vocation at the end of the first millennium. About 96% of Catholic priest are authentically celibate... It is the other and fraudulent 4% that wreaked devastation of the victims and the Church.

Bla bla bla...

Their are no limits to their ambition.. and they have through the sheer ignorance of our politically correct.. morally bankrupted society.. found an target that refuses to acknowledge that is is even under attack.
That is one hell of a conspiracy theory ya got there: paranoid ravings of a deluded nature. Yup, the gays tried to take over the church so they could abuse kids! Priests, boy scout leaders, hockey coatches, etc have been molesting children for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. There is no gay conspiracy.

What ever it is you are ingesting, may I suggest you stop. It is rotting your soul with hatred.
 

eh1eh

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What the hell makes you think that "I" need to fall in line with what any "man" says about religion? The more and more you type, the more and more you come across as one of these unthinking hypocrites that slams and slanders anyone that states they are Christian or has some beliefs that fall in line with an existing religion without really finding out "what" they believe all the while following the "anti-religion" line to the "t".

I don't think you should 'fall in line' with anyone or anything. I did not say that, you are projecting.
The reason I'm anti religion is because I have thought about it. I find the doctrines of most religions are designed to control people based on ancient needs and desires of men in power at the time.
You are rather defensive without thinking about what people are saying. You assume because someone doesn't believe in your 'faith' then they don't think.
But alas, that is one of the things that religion breeds.

BTW. I am not a hypocrite as I believe what I say and practice it in my life.
 

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It can't and isn't. The policy of the Church is wrong headed, and in the long run, detrimental to peace and justice.
Yep.

Absolutely incorrect.. celibacy is a function of monasticism.. a characteristic of a religious vocation, not only in Roman Catholicism.. there are Buddhist monastaries and many others. It is associated with deep mysticism and communion with God through ascetic contemplation

The sexual abuse standard has nothing to do with a religious vocation. In the period following Vatican 2, and the current of the social and especially sexual revolutions of the 60s and 70s.. an organized attack from within the homosexual community targeted the Church.. by proffering candidates posing as those with an authentic calling.. but really looking for a false credibility for a single life.. and the potential to victimize young people from a position of authority and trust.

This had nothing to do with celibacy, the abusers were not celibate and had no interest in celibacy. That has been with the Church since its earliest history.. starting with the 'men of the desert' and finally being accepted as a requirement of a priestly vocation at the end of the first millennium. About 96% of Catholic priest are authentically celibate... It is the other and fraudulent 4% that wreaked devastation of the victims and the Church.

And you can ignore the Pope's message at your peril. His caveat is that you cannot incorporate a fundamentally disordered agent into the edifice laws and institutions of a nation.. a nation is defined by those laws and institutions.. without compromising the moral integrity of the entire structure. It will unravel the integrity of that framework.. and then turn on you with avengeance.

This is not an innocuous and insignificant initiative in the interest of 'diversity'. It is the opening of the gates of our civilization to a voracious predator. That is the nature of Evil.. you cannot negotiate with it.. and you cannot compromise with it.. nothing it says can be trusted.. and nothing you offer to it will satisfy it.

You are kidding yourself if you thing this will end at 'marriage'. What they want is full on affirmation and recruitment with in school and church yards into homosexuality.. and what they want is the criminalization of any opposition to that under the aegis of a 'hate' crime.. especially by organized religion.

Their are no limits to their ambition.. and they have through the sheer ignorance of our politically correct.. morally bankrupted society.. found an target that refuses to acknowledge that is is even under attack.
roflmao Thanks for the laugh and a half, CS.
BTW, where did you dig up the stats "96% of Catholic priest are authentically celibate... It is the other and fraudulent 4%"?