Pat Robertson: Haiti ‘Cursed’ By ‘Pact To The Devil’

[MHz]

Stop and read for once before you start making a fool of yourself, I was responding to a post that said he was a jew.

So what, "was he a good Christian?" is a separate question.
Yes or no, how hard should that have been, joining any sect of Christianity does not automatically make everything you do (that affects others) 'helpful'. Ask Cliffy

 

[MHz]

...and what exactly is a `good Christian` !? How do you differentiate between a good Christian and a bad Christian?:-?

Lu:6:46: And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

 

[Kakato]

Kakato is an awesome world renowned debunker, I'm sure someone will e-mail him the answer in a day or so.

You can be sure I will add some substance to the debate,you cant seem to add anything but insults,if your ignorant on the topic then shuffle on,shuffle on.

 

[Kakato]

Pilots for truth mostly arent pilots,maybe you can post some facts about this black box from the NTSB as you made the claim about what was on it.
I have a picture of one of them myself,unless it was planted by the CIA.

Answer that one question please,show me some proof.

 

[Tonington]

Eh? Earthquakes are caused by global warming? I had no idea!

It takes a pretty broad reading to say that Glover was claiming this earthquake was caused by global warming.

First, there's that important word "could" which can in no way be taken as such a positive assertion as Delingpole's article title implies; second, it's not clear that he's referring to the earthquake, rather than the devastation. I think it's more likely he's referring to the devastation given what he was talking about before, aid, partnerships, etc. That's what happened at Copenhagen, richer nations pledged help to the poorest nations. Not a natural disaster.

Sheesh. People, think more critically about what the media headlines say...it's not that difficult to deconstruct.

 

[Kakato]

See,heres where I have a problem with your "claim"

Pilots for 9/11 Truth has reported that the data stream from the flight data recorder (FDR) for American Airlines flight 77, which allegedly struck the Pentagon on 9/11, shows that the cockpit door never opened during the entire 90 minute flight. The data was provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), which has refused to comment.

Lets see this evidence of data you claim exists,if the NTSB refused to comment then where did this data come from?

I'll wait for your answer on this one question first and field any others you have after that.

 

[countryboy]

It takes a pretty narrow reading to say that Glover was claiming this earthquake was caused by global warming.

First, there's that important word "could" which can in no way be taken as such a positive assertion as Delingpole's article title implies; second, it's not clear that he's referring to the earthquake, rather than the devastation. I think it's more likely he's referring to the devastation given what he was talking about before, aid, partnerships, etc. That's what happened at Copenhagen, richer nations pledged help to the poorest nations. Not a natural disaster.

Sheesh. People, think more critically about what the media headlines say...it's not that difficult to deconstruct.

Tonington, truly sorry if I offended you with my question there. I didn't get to see the video (dial-up) so I offered up a question for an answer, based on those two statements in Ron's post:

“What happened in Haiti could happen to anywhere in the Caribbean because all these island nations are in peril because of global warming.”
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“When we see what we did at the climate summit in Copenhagen, this is the response, this is what happens, you know what I’m saying? We have to act now!”
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Secondly, I have little to no grasp of science to begin with, so my statement "I had no idea!" was quite sincere. For all I know, maybe the plates shrink if the atmosphere gets warmed up or something...I wouldn't have a clue.

Again, sorry if it sounded like an "interpretation" of Mr. Glover's comments. Just askin'...

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[Kakato]

Maybe you can find that info here Mhz,I'll wait.

NTSB FOIA Response Cover Letter​

Here’s what the bundled CD contained: documents 1, 4 and 6 look the most interesting.

Document 1 - NTSB report, "Specialist's Factual Report of Investigation-Digital Flight Data Recorder" for American Airlines Flight 77. This is the equivalent document to the Flight 93 study recently released to the National Security Archive (see above), graphing data from Flight 77’s flight data recorder throughout its final flight. Maybe this is available for download somewhere, but if so we’ve not seen it. If you haven’t either, then grab a copy now. 5MB PDF

Document 2 - NTSB-sourced CSV file containing the raw data used to produce the flight data recorder graphs in Document 1. Only useful if you want to process the data yourself, or perhaps check variables that haven’t been graphed. 829KB ZIP

Document 3 - NTSB report, “Air Traffic Control Recording-American Airlines Flight 77”, Dec. 21, 2001. Appears the same as document 6 in the National Security Archive release, only it’s more than ten times larger for some reason. Probably no point downloading this. 5MB PDF

Document 4 - NTSB Report, “Study of Autopilot, Navigation Equipment, and Fuel Consumption Activity, Based on United Airlines Flight 93 and American Airlines Flight 77 Digital Flight Data Recorder Information”, February 13, 2002. Not seen this before, and it does seem to provide some very useful information -- well worth a look. 396KB PDF

Document 5 - NTSB report, "Flight Path Study-American Airlines Flight 77," Feb. 19, 2002. Appears to be the same as document 2 in the National Security Archive Release, so if you’ve seen that then it’s unlikely to be worth downloading. 7.5MB PDF

Document 6 - NTSB report, “Recorded Radar Data Study”. This shows the ground track of all four 9/11 planes, information that’s basically already been revealed in the National Security Archive documents. It’s presented a little differently, though, showing the ground track over successive 15 minute periods: what was happening to the planes between 8:00 and 8:15am, 8:15 and 8:30am, and so on. There’s some detailed information on radar data sources, too, so on balance this has to be worth the download 8MB PDF

 

[TenPenny]

Pilots for 9/11 Truth has reported that the data stream from the flight data recorder (FDR) for American Airlines flight 77, which allegedly struck the Pentagon on 9/11, shows that the cockpit door never opened during the entire 90 minute flight. The data was provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), which has refused to comment.

FDRs record when the cockpit door opens?

 

[Kakato]

Heres some more NSTB info for you Mhz,maybe you can find what your looking for here.:lol:

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Washington, DC - August 11, 2006[/FONT] - The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) this week released full transcripts of the air traffic control recordings from the four flights hijacked on September 11, 2001, and meticulous Flight Path Studies for three of the flights, in response to a Freedom of Information request by the National Security Archive. The studies provide the most detailed technical information available to date related to the hijackings, and the transcripts of the aircraft-to-ground communications are the first complete government disclosure of each flight's air traffic control recordings.
The documents are cited extensively in the 9/11 Commission Report to establish key facts and basic timelines for each hijacked flight. The NTSB Web site references the documents but does not provide copies, claiming "the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 are under the jurisdiction of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The Safety Board provided requested technical assistance to the FBI, and any material generated by the NTSB is under the control of the FBI. The Safety Board does not plan to issue a report or open a public docket." The documents were released in their entirety to the National Security Archive and were received directly from the NTSB.
The transcripts provide additional details to the information summarized in the 9/11 Commission Report. For example, the NTSB transcript differs slightly from the Commission's text of the warning that United Airlines Flight 93 received only minutes before the hijackers attacked. At 9:23am, the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) shows a text message to Flight 93 reading: "BEWARE OF ANY COCKPIT INTROUSION [sic]. TWO AIRCRAFT IN NY, HIT TRADE CNTER BUILDS [sic]." Five minutes later at 9:28am Flight 93 was sending the message "***(mayday)*** (hey get out of here) ***" as it was being hijacked.
The Flight Path Studies reconstruct the routes of American Airlines Flight 11, American Airlines Flight 77 and United Airlines Flight 175. Complied from recorded radar data and information from the Flight Data Recorders, the studies' illustrations of radar ground tracks, maps and altitude profiles provide graphic guides to each hijacking and were used by the NTSB to determine the takeover points where the hijackers gained control of the planes.
In addition to the Flight Path Studies and Air Traffic Control Recording transcripts, the NTSB released a February 2002 "Specialist's Factual Report of Investigation" on United Airlines Flight 93 based on the flight's recovered digital data recorder -- the only surviving recorder from the hijacked planes on 9/11. The report provides graphic analysis of the data recovered from Flight 93 and its subsequent crash in Shanksville, PA. According to the report, the flight recorder functioned normally.
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Documents
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Note: The following documents are in PDF format.
You will need to download and install the free Adobe Acrobat Reader to view.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Document 1: NTSB report, "Flight Path Study-American Airlines Flight 11," Feb. 19, 2002 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnotes 23, 33]

Document 2: NTSB report, "Flight Path Study-American Airlines Flight 77," Feb. 19, 2002 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnote 53]

Document 3: NTSB report, "Flight Path Study-United Airlines 175," Feb. 19, 2002 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnote 41]

Document 4: NTSB report, "Specialist's Factual Report of Investigation-Digital Flight Data Recorder" for United Airlines Flight 93, Feb. 15, 2002 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnotes 70, 71]

Document 5: NTSB report, Air Traffic Control Recording-American Airlines Flight 11, Dec. 21, 2001 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnote 24]

Document 6: NTSB report, Air Traffic Control Recording-American Airlines Flight 77, Dec. 21, 2001 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnote 54]

Document 7: NTSB report, Air Traffic Control Recording-United Airlines Flight 175, Dec. 21, 2001 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnotes 24, 41, 42, 44]

Document 8: NTSB report, Air Traffic Control Recording-United Airlines Flight 93, Dec. 21, 2001 [Chapter 1, The 9/11 Commission Report, "We Have Some Planes." Footnote 71][/FONT]

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[Tonington]

Tonington, truly sorry if I offended you with my question there. I didn't get to see the video (dial-up) so I offered up a question for an answer, based on those two statements in Ron's post:

No, I wasn't offended. I just think that it takes a very liberal interpretation of what Glover said to say that he claimed such was true. It's not really consistent with what he was saying. Though it is par for the course for the journalist-and I use the term with some reservation- who penned the article.

 

[Kakato]

Aren't there enough 9/11 threads on this forum? Do we need to commandeer more server space? Really?

On the Canada kicks ass forum it got so bad they just merged all the foiler spam topics into one big foiler topic now,there must be 30,000 posts on it and it keeps it in one spot and keeps the forum from getting spammed by these guys that actually think that Bush pulled this off.

I would suggest that happens here and I'll be more then glad to get in on it.;-)
Maybe Andem can talk to Trevor and find out what has to be done to make this happen.

 

[damngrumpy]

The one statement here is really funny, Billy Graham was a Jew not a Christian.
A few years ago a White House Tape surfaced in which this gentleman and the
late Richard Nixon were making some very hateful statements about the Jews.
Evangelists are like ambulance chasers, they state every disaster is an act of God
that is retribution for our sins. What kind of a God, would murder little children
for something allegedly their ancestors did? Pat Robertson is more evil than
most and he presides over a wolf pack of church leaders that are still hoping to
gain control of the world to rule it by Gods word. What a wonderful experience
that would be. If that were to happen we would all be looking for the Devil's
phone number.

 

[gopher]

Racist Republican Robertson wishes Third World people would readily submit to imperialist racism. In his wicked mind, imperialism is a God send.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

YouTube - Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson on Haiti earthquake. Countdown with Keith Olbermann

Pat Robertson and Russ Limbaugh are a pair of delusional intellectual misfits.

 

[mt_pockets1000]

Thanks for the video Soc. Great entertainment. They should have a home for the politically insane.

 

[damngrumpy]

If there is a hell, there must be a special place for people like Pat and Rush.
Unfortunately there is probably no hell therefore they are here to make our
lives resemble hell. Pats' is not a life of service, its a life of evil, and here is
a man who would exploit the suffering of a child to further the money in his
collection plate. This is Evangelical silly crap at best. Rush is a case of
ego inflation brought on by oxycontin. The man makes no sense whatever
at the best of times.

 

[Cliffy]

If there is a hell, there must be a special place for people like Pat and Rush.
Unfortunately there is probably no hell therefore they are here to make our
lives resemble hell. Pats' is not a life of service, its a life of evil, and here is
a man who would exploit the suffering of a child to further the money in his
collection plate. This is Evangelical silly crap at best. Rush is a case of
ego inflation brought on by oxycontin. The man makes no sense whatever
at the best of times.

That is going to get you the wrath of Jack!:lol:

 

[Hazmart]

Stop with the name calling and incessant trolling! If you want to discuss 9/11, go to a 9/11 thread! This is not the place for it!
Cut the name calling and keep to the topic!

 

[Kakato]

Please start a 9/11 topic.
I'll be more then happy to oblige you Mhz.