You can't be serious? You're saying that most Canadians would willingly participate in the extermination of Muslims, that's soooo unbelievable and almost laughable. You need to let go of these delusions, Earth.
Palestinian "Unilateral Declaration of Independence"
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You can't be serious? You're saying that most Canadians would willingly participate in the extermination of Muslims, that's soooo unbelievable and almost laughable. You need to let go of these delusions, Earth.
You quote me, then you rewrite what I wrote in your response. No I'm NOT saying most Canadians would willingly participate in the extermination of Muslims. Read what I wrote.
I wrote most Canadians would do nothing. Most people wouldn't risk their lives to help a stranger, never mind people they irrationally hate and fear. Many Canadians (not most... but a large number) would willingly help authorities round up and exterminate Muslims. The more people irrationally hate and fear others the more likely they would become willing participants in a mass extermination. Very few Canadians would help Muslims and I doubt the number of Christians willing to risk their lives and that of their families to help Muslims escape extermination would be significantly different than other Canadians.
BTW, that's another statement about human nature.
What happened in Nazi occupied Europe, in Rwanda, in Armenia.... could happen anywhere given the right conditions... even Canada. The slippery path starts with demonizing propaganda promoting irrational hate and fear.
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What a perverted impression you have of Canadian society, but Canadians as a whole. You are fuked - You cannot make points that make sense so in reactionary mode you not only insult Canadians you insult all as accomplices to mass murder - Genocide - You again have no reasoning - No facts - No sense but nonsense.
If you believe otherwise, then please explain why what happened in Germany in the 1930's couldn't happen here. Why did most Germans do nothing as authorities rounded up fellow citizens for extermination? Why do you believe Canadians would behave differently under similar conditions?
IMO, Canadians aren't that different than Germans. People are people... Desperation, fear and panic will bring out the very best and very worst in people.
IMO, Canadians aren't that different than Germans. People are people... Desperation, fear and panic will bring out the very best and very worst in people.
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This is EXACTLY the opposite of what you argued earlier in the thread........the Holocaust could have happened in any nation.....that is why "never again" Zionism is only good sense.
I'm going to have to side with the 10 commandments against Zionism in its current form: "Thou shalt not steal." Annexing property without any compensation is a form of theft. I disagree that stealing is only good sense. Taking what belongs to others leads to problems as Zionists have discovered.
Saying something is possible isn't the same as saying it has happened. Back in 1947, Canada welcomed Jewish refugees. All Canadians know Canadian Jews have the same rights and freedoms as other Canadians. Currently Canada bans all forms of religious based discrimination including discrimination against both Jews and Muslims. Its possible Canada's anti-discrimination laws could change in the future, at which time, Jews might have reason to become concerned. However the current climate is far more conducive to passing laws which discriminate against Muslims.
Saying something is possible isn't the same as saying it has happened. Back in 1947, Canada welcomed Jewish refugees. All Canadians know Canadian Jews have the same rights and freedoms as other Canadians. Currently Canada bans all forms of religious based discrimination including discrimination against both Jews and Muslims. Its possible Canada's anti-discrimination laws could change in the future, at which time, Jews might have reason to become concerned. However the current climate is far more conducive to passing laws which discriminate against Muslims.
As always cheery picking - seems you only pick what you - oops nearly used the word think - so i will stop now.
“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.
3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
6 “You shall not murder.
7 “You shall not commit adultery.
8 “You shall not steal.
9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”
seriously?
Even the Israelis know they have illegally stolen Palestinian land and property. Illegal, not just international law illegal, but also illegal under Israeli law... if the victims were Jewish, the authorities might even have arrested thieves and returned the stolen land. But since the victims of land and property theft are Arabs and Israeli Jews are beneficiaries, the state funds/subsidizes the crime.
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The Sasson Report is an official Israeli government report published on March 8, 2005 that concluded that Israeli state bodies had been discreetly diverting millions of shekels to build West Bank settlements and outposts that were illegal under Israeli law. The report was commissioned by the Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, and was headed by the former head of the State Prosecution Criminal Department Talia Sasson. Talia Sasson would later run for the Israeli elections as part the left wing party of Meretz. The report detailed how officials in the Ministry of Defense and Ministry of Housing and Construction and the settlement division of the World Zionist Organization spent millions of shekels from state budgets to support the unauthorized outposts. The Sasson report called it a "blatant violation of the law" and said "drastic steps" were needed to rectify the situation. It describes secret cooperation between various ministries and official institutions to consolidate "wildcat" outposts, which settlers began erecting more than a decade ago.
The report states:
The housing ministry supplied 400 mobile homes for outposts on private Palestinian land
The defense ministry approved the positioning of trailers to begin new outposts
The education ministry paid for nurseries and their teachers
The energy ministry connected outposts to the electricity grid
Roads to outposts were paid for with taxpayers' money
The report mentioned 150 communities in the West Bank with incomplete or nonexistent permits, but Sasson cautions that this list was not exhaustive, due to the lack of cooperation of some ministries and government offices which, according to her, failed to hand over some important documents....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasson_Report
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Which is what happens when people have no recognized rights. But this land and property theft isn't new. Israel has constantly stolen Arab land and property since its creation and it continues today. Here are some examples of Israeli laws which result in land and property owners loosing their land and property without compensation.
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The 'Absentees Property Law'
‘Absentees’ property’ laws were several laws which were first introduced as emergency ordinances issued by the Jewish leadership but which after the war were incorporated into the laws of Israel. As examples of the first type of laws are the Emergency Regulations (Absentees’ Property) Law, 5709-1948 (December) which according to article 37 of the Absentees Property Law, 5710-1950 was replaced by the latter;[19] the Emergency Regulations (Requisition of Property) Law, 5709-1949, and other related laws.[20]
According to COHRE and BADIL (p. 41), unlike other laws that were designed to establish Israel’s ‘legal’ control over lands, this body of law focused on formulating a ‘legal’ definition for the people (mostly Arabs) who had left or been forced to flee from these lands. Specific laws in this category include:
The Absentees’ Property Law, 5710- 1950
The Land Acquisition (Validation of Acts and Compensation) Law, 5713-1953
Absentees’ Property (Eviction) Law, 5718-1958
Absentees’ Property (Amendment No.3) (Release and Use of Endowment Property) Law, 5725-1965
Absentees’ Property (Amendment No. 4) (Release and Use of Property of Evangelical Episcopal Church) Law, 5727-1967
Absentees’ Property (Compensation) Law, 5733-1973
As a result, two million dunams were confiscated and given to the custodian, who later transferred the land to the development authority. This law created the novel citizenship category of "present absentees" (nifkadim nohahim), persons present at the time but considered absent for the purpose of the law. These Israeli Arabs enjoyed all civil rights-including the right to vote in the Knesset elections-except one: the right to use and dispose of their property". About 30,000-35,000 Palestinians became "present absentees". [21]
According to Flapan,[22] "a detailed account of exactly how "abandoned" Arab property assisted in the absorption of the new immigrants was prepared by Joseph Schechtman:
It is difficult to overestimate the tremendous role this lot of abandoned Arab property has played in the settlement of hundreds of thousands of Jewish immigrants who have reached Israel since the proclamation of the state in May 1948. Forty-seven new rural settlements established on the sites of abandoned Arab villages had by October 1949 already absorbed 25,255 new immigrants. By the spring of 1950 over 1 million dunams had been leased by the custodian to Jewish settlements and individual farmers for the raising of grain crops.
Large tracts of land belonging to Arab absentees have also been leased to Jewish settlers, old and new, for the raising of vegetables. In the south alone, 15,000 dunams of vineyards and fruit trees have been leased to cooperative settlements; a similar area has been rented by the Yemenites Association, the Farmers Association, and the Soldiers Settlement and Rehabilitation Board. This has saved the Jewish Agency and the government millions of dollars. While the average cost of establishing an immigrant family in a new settlement was from $7,500 to $9,000, the cost in abandoned Arab villages did not exceed $1,500 ($750 for building repairs and $750 for livestock and equipment).
Abandoned Arab dwellings in towns have also not remained empty. By the end of July 1948, 170,000 people, notably new immigrants and ex-soldiers, in addition to about 40,000 former tenants, both Jewish and Arab, had been housed in premises under the custodian's control; and 7,000 shops, workshops and stores were sublet to new arrivals. The existence of these Arab houses-vacant and ready for occupation-has, to a large extent, solved the greatest immediate problem which faced the Israeli authorities in the absorption of immigrants. It also considerably relieved the financial burden of absorption.[23]
How much of Israel's territory consists of land confiscated with the Absentee Property Law is uncertain and much disputed. Robert Fisk interviewed the Israeli Custodian of Absentee Property, who estimates this could amount to up to 70% of the territory of Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_land_and_property_laws#The_.27Absentees_Property_Law.27
Trying to make land and property theft sound legit has created all sorts of Orwellian double speak. Jews are never classified as present absentees or abesentee property owners. These laws only apply to Arab land owners. Jews can leave their homes and not worry about the authorities seizing the land and property and handing it over to someone else while they are out.
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Here's a specific example of how the Zionist state of Israel steals Arab property.
In this case the Israeli government owns 40% of a house built in the 1920's by an Arab family. The Israeli government owns 40% because 40% of the owners were absent in 1948. The people who lived in this house since it was built and were living in the house in 1948, own the remaining 60%. These people must pay rent to the Israeli government at a rate determined by the Israeli government to live in their own home or face eviction. The Israeli government will not allow these people to buy the remaining 40% of their home. The Israeli government can seize the entire home at any time and sell it without the homeowner's permission and pocket 40% of the sale value. Only Jews would be eligible to buy this home.
Why is Israel laying claim to an Arab home in Jaffa? - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
I can reference tens of thousands of similar situations across Israel and the West Bank where Arabs have lost their homes or risk loosing their homes.
All these people who have lost their homes, would not have had a problem with the Israeli government if they were Jewish. In fact, these people can solve their problems by renouncing their religion and converting to Judaism. In the above case, they would have to renounce being Greek Orthodox Christian.
Other examples:
This devout Roman Catholic women could get her family home back, if she renounced Catholicism and converted to Judaism. But while she remains Catholic, she has no rights to her family home which was bought by a Jewish family from a Jewish family who got it from the Israeli government in 1948, because the original Roman Catholic owners fled during the war. If she was Jewish, she could apply to get her home back or receive compensation. Since she is Catholic, she has no rights to this home.
The Baramki House
The West Bank village of al-Walaja is effectively an open air prison. It is completely surrounded by walls with razor wire and guard towers. The only way in or out is through an Israeli checkpoint. The wall separates these people from their communal spring and farmland, which is now owned by the Israeli government and available for settlement development. Since these people have no sustainable means to get water or feed themselves, they will eventually be forced to abandon their homes, and as a result, allow the state to confiscate their remaining land and property under the absentee property law.
Israeli court rejects al-Walaja's appeal against wall | The Electronic Intifada
In this case the Israeli government owns 40% of a house built in the 1920's by an Arab family. The Israeli government owns 40% because 40% of the owners were absent in 1948. The people who lived in this house since it was built and were living in the house in 1948, own the remaining 60%. These people must pay rent to the Israeli government at a rate determined by the Israeli government to live in their own home or face eviction. The Israeli government will not allow these people to buy the remaining 40% of their home. The Israeli government can seize the entire home at any time and sell it without the homeowner's permission and pocket 40% of the sale value. Only Jews would be eligible to buy this home.
Why is Israel laying claim to an Arab home in Jaffa? - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
I can reference tens of thousands of similar situations across Israel and the West Bank where Arabs have lost their homes or risk loosing their homes.
All these people who have lost their homes, would not have had a problem with the Israeli government if they were Jewish. In fact, these people can solve their problems by renouncing their religion and converting to Judaism. In the above case, they would have to renounce being Greek Orthodox Christian.
Other examples:
This devout Roman Catholic women could get her family home back, if she renounced Catholicism and converted to Judaism. But while she remains Catholic, she has no rights to her family home which was bought by a Jewish family from a Jewish family who got it from the Israeli government in 1948, because the original Roman Catholic owners fled during the war. If she was Jewish, she could apply to get her home back or receive compensation. Since she is Catholic, she has no rights to this home.
Jerusalem: Caritas head revisits her confiscated family home on Independent Catholic News
The Baramki House
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Jerusalem land seizures 'illegal'
The West Bank village of al-Walaja is effectively an open air prison. It is completely surrounded by walls with razor wire and guard towers. The only way in or out is through an Israeli checkpoint. The wall separates these people from their communal spring and farmland, which is now owned by the Israeli government and available for settlement development. Since these people have no sustainable means to get water or feed themselves, they will eventually be forced to abandon their homes, and as a result, allow the state to confiscate their remaining land and property under the absentee property law.
Israeli court rejects al-Walaja's appeal against wall | The Electronic Intifada
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EAO, there has certainly been injustice on both sides.....Israel takes a little property, a couple of Palestinians butcher an entire Israeli family......Hamas swears to destroy Israel and broadcasts fantasies about the last days and the murder of all Jews.
Israel is TINY. You seem to have no concept of how fantastically small the Jewish state is..........the ONLY way for peace to be achieved in the area, the ONLY way to stop Israeli settlers from creeping further into the West Bank is for the Palestinians to give up their fantasies of returning to Israel, and to negotiate a peace.
You have said as much yourself, you have indicated below that you believe the Unilateral Palestinian Declaration of Independence will set the area ablaze.
Yet you still support it.
So much for your pacifist credentials......
Israel is TINY. You seem to have no concept of how fantastically small the Jewish state is..........the ONLY way for peace to be achieved in the area, the ONLY way to stop Israeli settlers from creeping further into the West Bank is for the Palestinians to give up their fantasies of returning to Israel, and to negotiate a peace.
You have said as much yourself, you have indicated below that you believe the Unilateral Palestinian Declaration of Independence will set the area ablaze.
Yet you still support it.
So much for your pacifist credentials......
I predicted that within two months this area will erupt in violence. The violence will be an indirect consequence of the UN General Assembly vote to grant Palestinians as many rights as they can. That vote will likely be followed by increased pressure on Egypt to open their border with Gaza. Israel will likely respond by attempting to seize control of the border which could lead to conflict with the Egyptians. Soon another humanitarian aid convoy will depart Turkey for Gaza. This time they will be escorted by the Turkish navy. Any attempt by the Israelis to stop this convoy could lead to a conflict with Turkey. If the US and Israel cut their bribes and support of Abbas, his dictatorship would collapse and power would shift toward Hamas, probably in a violent coup.
The Turks and the Egyptians know they can't defeat Israel militarily. I doubt that is their objective. Their objective appears to provoke Israeli responses which are too outrageous for Israel's less committed supporters to ignore, leading to increased isolation and decreased support.
BTW, I never had anything against Jews or Israelis. Since I'm probably Jewish on my mother's side, I am fairly certain I could convert to Judaism, move to Israel and live in an expropriated Christian's home. While converting to Judaism is a possibility, I'd have moral issues if I took advantage of my ancestry to benefit from state sponsored theft. I am only against people who commit war crimes and crimes against humanity. I have no ill will toward "my people". If Zionists respected Jewish laws regarding theft and murder, they probably wouldn't find themselves increasing isolated internationally or surrounded by hostile neighbors. If Zionists were fair about "redeeming" the land and were patient, eventually they could have bought all of Israel for far less than the cost of constant war and violence.
The Turks and the Egyptians know they can't defeat Israel militarily. I doubt that is their objective. Their objective appears to provoke Israeli responses which are too outrageous for Israel's less committed supporters to ignore, leading to increased isolation and decreased support.
BTW, I never had anything against Jews or Israelis. Since I'm probably Jewish on my mother's side, I am fairly certain I could convert to Judaism, move to Israel and live in an expropriated Christian's home. While converting to Judaism is a possibility, I'd have moral issues if I took advantage of my ancestry to benefit from state sponsored theft. I am only against people who commit war crimes and crimes against humanity. I have no ill will toward "my people". If Zionists respected Jewish laws regarding theft and murder, they probably wouldn't find themselves increasing isolated internationally or surrounded by hostile neighbors. If Zionists were fair about "redeeming" the land and were patient, eventually they could have bought all of Israel for far less than the cost of constant war and violence.
Another bloody kapo.
(Look it up)
Yeah, there are no laws in Islam against theft and murder.....as long as it is infidels as the victim.
They are NOT your people. Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity......except to Jew-haters.
Correction, I think your proper classification for someone like me is a "self hating Jew".
Since I'm probably of Jewish descent on my mother's side, I'm going to embrace all people who share my mitochondrial DNA as "my people". That would be my choice not yours. This isn't really a change, since I always believed all human beings are related by blood, I consider the entire human race including Jews as "my people".
A fair analogy would be if the UN awarded your town to Palestinian refugees fleeing the horrors of Zionist Occupied Palestine. Suddenly you lose your citizenship, a war breaks out and you flee for safety. When the fighting stops, the new Islamic State state blocks non-Muslims like yourself from returning to their homes, declares homes like yours abandoned and confiscates them by the thousands. As a result of this injustice, you now live a few kilometers away in an open air prison dependent on a meager amount of humanitarian aid strictly controlled by Palestinians who don't like you very much. A Muslim family now lives in your former home. They bought your house at a discount from the Islamic State of Palestine, took your family portraits off the walls and put them out with the trash, changed the locks and moved in. They are very happy living in your house. Meanwhile the Islamic State of Palestine built a wall topped with razor wire and guard towers around your refugee camp. They issued you an identity card which classifies you as a "present absentee". The prison guards might allow you to leave the prison on a day pass provided you behave. All you have to to do leave is go to the prison gate, present your identity card to the prison guards and if you have not misbehaved and the prison guards are in a good mood, they might let you leave the prison. Just make sure you return before curfew, or you'll be arrested. Since you have no rights or citizenship, Palestinian soldiers and settlers can attack and kill you and your family with impunity, so you better be careful about challenging their authority. Heavily armed Palestinians have the support of the US and Europeans. You and others like you have no means to address the daily oppression and injustice. The Palestinian courts are against you and if you try to take your case to the international community, the US uses their veto in support of injustice and your continued oppression. At no time did you ever act violently or resist the Islamic State of Palestine. You could get everything back if you renounced your religion and converted to Islam. This is now your life and the life your children can expect unless you do more than cower in your refugee camp and beg the Palestinians not to harm you or your family. So what would you do?
Do nothing and trust that one day the international community will address the oppression and injustice that you have suffered for over 60 years.
Trust that the Palestinian and American supported dictator who claims to represent you, might cut a fair deal on your behalf and not sell you out for personal gain.
Would you convert to Islam?
Would you fight violently to get back your home and citizenship?
Would you resist non-violently like the residents of Bil'in?
19/08/2009
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This teenager's crime appears to be having an uncooperative father who leads Bil'in's non-violent resistance of the illegal (as ruled by both Israeli and international courts) annexation of land surrounding Bil'in. Bil'in is yet another village which has effectively become another large prison. Since the father won't cooperate with the IDF, they arrested his son for leverage.
BTW, Non-violent resistance to the Israel's occupation and the injustice, oppression and cruelty suffered by non-violent protesters is seldom reported by the MSM here in Canada.
Since I'm probably of Jewish descent on my mother's side, I'm going to embrace all people who share my mitochondrial DNA as "my people". That would be my choice not yours. This isn't really a change, since I always believed all human beings are related by blood, I consider the entire human race including Jews as "my people".
For you "taking a little property" might seem a minor to you, because it doesn't affect you personally. But hundreds of thousands of people Zionists made homeless nationless refugees view this personal injustice quite differently. How would you react if you went through the same process as these people?
A fair analogy would be if the UN awarded your town to Palestinian refugees fleeing the horrors of Zionist Occupied Palestine. Suddenly you lose your citizenship, a war breaks out and you flee for safety. When the fighting stops, the new Islamic State state blocks non-Muslims like yourself from returning to their homes, declares homes like yours abandoned and confiscates them by the thousands. As a result of this injustice, you now live a few kilometers away in an open air prison dependent on a meager amount of humanitarian aid strictly controlled by Palestinians who don't like you very much. A Muslim family now lives in your former home. They bought your house at a discount from the Islamic State of Palestine, took your family portraits off the walls and put them out with the trash, changed the locks and moved in. They are very happy living in your house. Meanwhile the Islamic State of Palestine built a wall topped with razor wire and guard towers around your refugee camp. They issued you an identity card which classifies you as a "present absentee". The prison guards might allow you to leave the prison on a day pass provided you behave. All you have to to do leave is go to the prison gate, present your identity card to the prison guards and if you have not misbehaved and the prison guards are in a good mood, they might let you leave the prison. Just make sure you return before curfew, or you'll be arrested. Since you have no rights or citizenship, Palestinian soldiers and settlers can attack and kill you and your family with impunity, so you better be careful about challenging their authority. Heavily armed Palestinians have the support of the US and Europeans. You and others like you have no means to address the daily oppression and injustice. The Palestinian courts are against you and if you try to take your case to the international community, the US uses their veto in support of injustice and your continued oppression. At no time did you ever act violently or resist the Islamic State of Palestine. You could get everything back if you renounced your religion and converted to Islam. This is now your life and the life your children can expect unless you do more than cower in your refugee camp and beg the Palestinians not to harm you or your family. So what would you do?
Do nothing and trust that one day the international community will address the oppression and injustice that you have suffered for over 60 years.
Trust that the Palestinian and American supported dictator who claims to represent you, might cut a fair deal on your behalf and not sell you out for personal gain.
Would you convert to Islam?
Would you fight violently to get back your home and citizenship?
Would you resist non-violently like the residents of Bil'in?
19/08/2009
bilin-village.org | Children in Bil
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bilin-village.org | Israeli forces raid Bil
This teenager's crime appears to be having an uncooperative father who leads Bil'in's non-violent resistance of the illegal (as ruled by both Israeli and international courts) annexation of land surrounding Bil'in. Bil'in is yet another village which has effectively become another large prison. Since the father won't cooperate with the IDF, they arrested his son for leverage.
BTW, Non-violent resistance to the Israel's occupation and the injustice, oppression and cruelty suffered by non-violent protesters is seldom reported by the MSM here in Canada.
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Obama's speech in support of continued Palestinian injustice and oppression while praising Arabs everywhere else for fighting against oppression and injustice didn't go over well with Palestinians, the Arab world and most of the international community. Obama is openly being called a hypocrite today.
Arab fury at Obama UN speech
Barack Obama's standing in the Arab world plumbed new depths as protesters in the West Bank denounced his vehement denunciation of the Palestinian statehood bid.
...Taking up the most cherished talking points of the Israeli right, which he has normally eschewed in the past, Mr Obama not only addressed the historical Jewish people but spoke of Israel's diminutive size for the first time and castigated Arab states for inciting their children to hate Israelis.
Breaking with convention, he declined to address Palestinian grievances against the Israeli occupation of the West Bank or to mention Jewish settlement construction, an issue he once inveighed against.
Israeli officials were delighted, with Avigdor Lieberman, the right-wing foreign minister, calling Mr Obama's speech the best he had ever delivered. By contrast, Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian leader, listened with his head in his hands.
Just 24 hours earlier, participants at a festive rally in support of the Palestinian statehood bid in Ramallah had rounded on a small group of youngsters who had burned an American flag, exposing their hardline views as those of a small minority.
There was no such circumspection yesterday as demonstrations holding up banners denouncing "Obama the hypocrite"...
"He talked about all these principles with human dignity, freedom and democracy in the context of the Arab Spring, but when it came to the Palestinians he totally disassociated us from these values, as though we do not belong to the Arab Spring, as though these values do not apply to us," Hanan Ashrawi, a senior member of the Palestinian delegation said on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly.
"It is blatant double standards and discrimination."
Barack Obama UN speech: Arab fury over Palestinian statehood speech - Telegraph
Arab fury at Obama UN speech
Barack Obama's standing in the Arab world plumbed new depths as protesters in the West Bank denounced his vehement denunciation of the Palestinian statehood bid.
...Taking up the most cherished talking points of the Israeli right, which he has normally eschewed in the past, Mr Obama not only addressed the historical Jewish people but spoke of Israel's diminutive size for the first time and castigated Arab states for inciting their children to hate Israelis.
Breaking with convention, he declined to address Palestinian grievances against the Israeli occupation of the West Bank or to mention Jewish settlement construction, an issue he once inveighed against.
Israeli officials were delighted, with Avigdor Lieberman, the right-wing foreign minister, calling Mr Obama's speech the best he had ever delivered. By contrast, Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian leader, listened with his head in his hands.
Just 24 hours earlier, participants at a festive rally in support of the Palestinian statehood bid in Ramallah had rounded on a small group of youngsters who had burned an American flag, exposing their hardline views as those of a small minority.
There was no such circumspection yesterday as demonstrations holding up banners denouncing "Obama the hypocrite"...
"He talked about all these principles with human dignity, freedom and democracy in the context of the Arab Spring, but when it came to the Palestinians he totally disassociated us from these values, as though we do not belong to the Arab Spring, as though these values do not apply to us," Hanan Ashrawi, a senior member of the Palestinian delegation said on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly.
"It is blatant double standards and discrimination."
Barack Obama UN speech: Arab fury over Palestinian statehood speech - Telegraph