Ontario residents to receive guaranteed income of $22,000!

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Pay everyone then say you eliminated social assistance. Great idea.

They will be illegal cuz they have those gay fats.

Disabled get far more in AB and SK already. Still falling short on those who need it in ON.
That would be on top of SS. Doh.

When you only have 4 packs a day getting too much fat is not really an issue.

19K/yr for disabled, the ones that need a raise are the ones pulling in $800/mo.
 

petros

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Look what they did to Clitford.

75 cents a day gets you a triple bypass.

Do you really think there wouldn't be a claw back?
 

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Ontario report touting basic income likely to target middle-aged women, disabled adults for most help | National Post


W.T.F. should any able bodied person of working age (15-65) expect to receive ANY money without working for it?



It doesn't sound like a very wise plan. There are already enough social programs for disabled, seniors, welfare, etc. Many of those recipients already receive more than $22,000 annually.
Seniors have already paid into their pensions when they were working. Some of the disabled have too. But the others who have never paid into anything shouldn't have a guaranteed income, imho.
The article is incorrect stating that seniors get income supplement payments. That is an extra that only seniors below a certain income receive and it has to be applied for. It is not automatic.


I think it is just a plan to buy votes, seeing as how the Liberals have lost popularity in Ontario. It will further contribute to the already unsustainable debt.
 

JLM

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It doesn't sound like a very wise plan. There are already enough social programs for disabled, seniors, welfare, etc. Many of those recipients already receive more than $22,000 annually.
Seniors have already paid into their pensions when they were working. Some of the disabled have too. But the others who have never paid into anything shouldn't have a guaranteed income, imho.
The article is incorrect stating that seniors get income supplement payments. That is an extra that only seniors below a certain income receive and it has to be applied for. It is not automatic.


I think it is just a plan to buy votes, seeing as how the Liberals have lost popularity in Ontario. It will further contribute to the already unsustainable debt.


It's amazing how many people don't have the brains to understand the simple concept, if you want something in this world you BUY it or you WORK for it. Not rocket science!
 

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That was a damn good wage back in 1960.
Well you are fabricating a lie if you worked at McDonalds in 1960 in Canada , and also if your minimum wage job in 1960 paid $1.35
 

darkbeaver

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I worked at McDonalds as a kid for a buck 45 an hour.

And when did you retire?
 

taxslave

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Didn't that trial in Manitoba or Saskatchewan show that a minimum wage worked better than welfare and EI?


If so, then go for it.

Worked real good. That i why rotten ronnies is putting in all the self serve kiosks in their greasy spoons. Same reason Home Depot has all those self serve checkouts. At $10 they could afford to staff the tills. At$15 they do without and now all those people don't have jobs.

Ontario report touting basic income likely to target middle-aged women, disabled adults for most help | National Post


W.T.F. should any able bodied person of working age (15-65) expect to receive ANY money without working for it?

Trust fund kids?
 

lone wolf

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Worked real good. That i why rotten ronnies is putting in all the self serve kiosks in their greasy spoons. Same reason Home Depot has all those self serve checkouts. At $10 they could afford to staff the tills. At$15 they do without and now all those people don't have jobs.

So ... minimum wage is sort of like going union then, eh?
 

JLM

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I worked for .85 cents an hour in 1963.


I worked for $1 an hour in '63 and then I got a job that paid me $362 a month plus a rent free cabin and $90 of the wage was tax exempt. I could have mingled with Royalty if I thought I could stand them. :)
 

bobnoorduyn

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Well you are fabricating a lie if you worked at McDonalds in 1960 in Canada , and also if your minimum wage job in 1960 paid $1.35


That was my wage pumping gas at a BP station in '73 or '74, (remember guys who pumped gas? Remember BP in Canada?). I believe the minimum wage then was $1.25. I could also rent a Cessna 150 for $18 per hour, a 172 for $20 and a 310 for $60. The price of gas fluctuated but averaged $.50/Imp. gal, and my first car cost $1200. Not that any of this means anything other than I quit the BP station when my boss dropped my wage back to $1.25.
 

JLM

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What a stupid thing to say!!


Some people have a propensity for doing that - sadly there's a couple on the forum. :)

That was my wage pumping gas at a BP station in '73 or '74, (remember guys who pumped gas? Remember BP in Canada?). I believe the minimum wage then was $1.25. I could also rent a Cessna 150 for $18 per hour, a 172 for $20 and a 310 for $60. The price of gas fluctuated but averaged $.50/Imp. gal, and my first car cost $1200. Not that any of this means anything other than I quit the BP station when my boss dropped my wage back to $1.25.


That was the era when "Rent a Wreck" was popular. You could rent an older V.W. bug for $5 a day.
 

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Worked real good. That i why rotten ronnies is putting in all the self serve kiosks in their greasy spoons. Same reason Home Depot has all those self serve checkouts. At $10 they could afford to staff the tills. At$15 they do without and now all those people don't have jobs.



You don't seem to understand the difference between minimum wage and a minimum guaranteed income.


PS - self serve checkouts have been around for over a decade, and bank ATMs for many decades. Continue blaming non-related factors for automation. Is the onset of internet shopping due to the $15 minimum wage, too?