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Who are they Refugees “from” if they’re crossing into Canada at Roxham Road?

The LINK above says Nigeria is the biggest source of people crossing at Roxham and just 30% of the more than 16,000 who crossed there between February 2017 and March 2022 were accepted as valid refugees. For the more than 10,000 Haitians who crossed — the second-largest source country, just 23% were accepted…..& since Trudeau’s 2017 Tweet, more than 77,000 people entered Canada at Roxham Road from….the USA?

Originally this Tweet was a WOKE posturing against Trump so Trudeau could use him as a Boogieman, but from what I hear, Trump isn’t the President of the United States at this point and hasn’t been for a while now, so are these Refugees fleeing The US & Biden’s policies now? Is that why there’s such an uptick in numbers?

I do not claim to be a cartographer, but if Nigeria & Haiti are the largest groups of Refugees crossing into Canada at Roxham Road, Quebec, but they where actually crossing into Canada at, let’s say the port of Halifax, I could see that being the first place of refuge for these people, but not landlocked Roxham Road that only borders with America.
The border guards can assess the threat an immigrant is under on the spot. In cases where there is immediate threat, let 'em in. In cases where the proverbial "reasonable person" sees no threat and upon listening to the immigrant's story, sees no pressing danger, tell 'em "Nice try. No dice." In cases where there is legitimate doubt, let 'em in provisionally, and detain 'em whilst you work it out. When the immigrant in question has entered Canada legitimately (with consent, Canada wasn't drunk or high, and the immigrant wore a condom), if the immigrant voluntarily changes his or her status by applying for asylum, apply the rules above. Easy as pie.

Only thing y'all seem to be lacking is adult supervision.
 

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We have also brought refugees into Canada from various camps throughout the world over the years starting after the Vietnam war . These people did not try to jump the line but applied in an orderly manner . Is it to much to ask to expect the same from refugees at this time as well ?
No as it's likely going to be considered "racist" or some thing nefarious, I'm sure.
 

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Unless they're Trucktards…..
Where the Trucktards doing anything illegal long before they arrived in Ottawa when Justin & Jagmeet (Before they came out’a the closet & formally announced their non-coalition coalition) where demonizing them in the media as racists & misogynists & Nazi’s and what have you? It sure looked like the Trucktards where framed in the media as criminals doing something illegal long before Trudeau fled to the Batcave & the Trucktards even had the opportunity to break the law. Weird that, and the CBC and many others ran with it. Weirder that….

That whole February Goat Rodeo will be more interesting as more “facts” come to the light of day regarding who did what & when with their shenanigans like that one guy with the Nazi flag, or that one Québécois Chick that danced on the monument, or who was slashing the tires and cutting the fuel lines on the Trucktards Tractors, or the whole “Deprived Diesel to truckers so they can’t stay warm or leave in February in Canada” and then point fingers ‘cuz they’re trying to stay warm and aren’t leaving, or whom put a ball cap & flag around the shoulders of that statue instead of smashing it after spray painting it like we’ve become so accustomed to when church’s where catching on fire all over while Trudeau “understands their frustrations” and so on and so forth….
We have also brought refugees into Canada from various camps throughout the world over the years starting after the Vietnam war . These people did not try to jump the line but applied in an orderly manner . Is it to much to ask to expect the same from refugees at this time as well ?
The people at Roxham Road aren’t refugees from camps in war torn countries, but are arriving on buses and from taxi’s from the USA and walk about a mile (maybe) to get greeted by the RCMP before being allowed in. All 77,000+ crossing there so far that I’ve read about.
 

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Where the Trucktards doing anything illegal long before they arrived in Ottawa when Justin & Jagmeet (Before they came out’a the closet & formally announced their non-coalition coalition) where demonizing them in the media as racists & misogynists & Nazi’s and what have you? It sure looked like the Trucktards where framed in the media as criminals doing something illegal long before Trudeau fled to the Batcave & the Trucktards even had the opportunity to break the law. Weird that, and the CBC and many others ran with it. Weirder that….

That whole February Goat Rodeo will be more interesting as more “facts” come to the light of day regarding who did what & when with their shenanigans like that one guy with the Nazi flag, or that one Québécois Chick that danced on the monument, or who was slashing the tires and cutting the fuel lines on the Trucktards Tractors, or the whole “Deprived Diesel to truckers so they can’t stay warm or leave in February in Canada” and then point fingers ‘cuz they’re trying to stay warm and aren’t leaving, or whom put a ball cap & flag around the shoulders of that statue instead of smashing it after spray painting it like we’ve become so accustomed to when church’s where catching on fire all over while Trudeau “understands their frustrations” and so on and so forth….

The people at Roxham Road aren’t refugees from camps in war torn countries, but are arriving on buses and from taxi’s from the USA and walk about a mile (maybe) to get greeted by the RCMP before being allowed in. All 77,000+ crossing there so far that I’ve read about.
Turn back the clock to last June, July, August and September prior to there being any truckers or PPC wingnuts. It was Canadian Frontline Nurses protesting shitty working conditions that were ongoing for over a decade. I was there at Van General and City Hall last September 1st.

I have photos of the 5000 protesting and nary a trucker to be seen or heard.

It was Nursetards protesting work conditions patient treatment and their Rights.

Nursetards
 

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Where the Trucktards doing anything illegal long before they arrived in Ottawa when Justin & Jagmeet (Before they came out’a the closet & formally announced their non-coalition coalition) where demonizing them in the media as racists & misogynists & Nazi’s and what have you? It sure looked like the Trucktards where framed in the media as criminals doing something illegal long before Trudeau fled to the Batcave & the Trucktards even had the opportunity to break the law. Weird that, and the CBC and many others ran with it. Weirder that….

That whole February Goat Rodeo will be more interesting as more “facts” come to the light of day regarding who did what & when with their shenanigans like that one guy with the Nazi flag, or that one Québécois Chick that danced on the monument, or who was slashing the tires and cutting the fuel lines on the Trucktards Tractors, or the whole “Deprived Diesel to truckers so they can’t stay warm or leave in February in Canada” and then point fingers ‘cuz they’re trying to stay warm and aren’t leaving, or whom put a ball cap & flag around the shoulders of that statue instead of smashing it after spray painting it like we’ve become so accustomed to when church’s where catching on fire all over while Trudeau “understands their frustrations” and so on and so forth….

The people at Roxham Road aren’t refugees from camps in war torn countries, but are arriving on buses and from taxi’s from the USA and walk about a mile (maybe) to get greeted by the RCMP before being allowed in. All 77,000+ crossing there so far that I’ve read about.
Yes but we are pleasing the gods of political correctness , what could be more important ?
 
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Turn back the clock to last June, July, August and September prior to there being any truckers or PPC wingnuts. It was Canadian Frontline Nurses protesting shitty working conditions that were ongoing for over a decade. I was there at Van General and City Hall last September 1st.

I have photos of the 5000 protesting and nary a trucker to be seen or heard.

It was Nursetards protesting work conditions patient treatment and their Rights.

Nursetards
Nursetards in the US too.

 
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The people at Roxham Road aren’t refugees from camps in war torn countries, but are arriving on buses and from taxi’s from the USA and walk about a mile (maybe) to get greeted by the RCMP before being allowed in. All 77,000+ crossing there so far that I’ve read about.
You raise what is to me an interesting legal question. The rule is that a "refugee" must ask asylum from the first country he comes to that is signatory to the convention. But if that country refuses asylum, what then?

I'll have to research that. I'll let you know.
 
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You raise what is to me an interesting legal question. The rule is that a "refugee" must ask asylum from the first country he comes to that is signatory to the convention. But if that country refuses asylum, what then?

I'll have to research that. I'll let you know.
That’s where I was going in post #179 in this thread, but wasn’t (in all honesty) thinking about America rejecting these “refugees” forcing them to cross into Canada at Roxham Road instead of through a regular border crossing.

“I do not claim to be a cartographer, but if Nigeria & Haiti are the largest groups of Refugees crossing into Canada at Roxham Road, Quebec, but they where actually crossing into Canada at, let’s say the port of Halifax, I could see that being the first place of refuge for these people, but not landlocked Roxham Road that only borders with America.”
 

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You raise what is to me an interesting legal question. The rule is that a "refugee" must ask asylum from the first country he comes to that is signatory to the convention. But if that country refuses asylum, what then?

I'll have to research that. I'll let you know.
Then US Immigration sends them back to wherever they hold a passport. You never knew that? Why dont you know that? Pizza?

Illegal in the US is no different to CBSA. Illegal is illegal

Are they slightly illlegal? Is slightly a pizza law thing?