Obama Refuses to Answer Birth Certificate Lawsuit
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the supreme court has already done enough damage, imo. but i can agree on the other lol
I still don't understand why this is even still an issue. Either it has been resolved or it hasn't (???).
Much of what happens in a court room is bull****, but I didn't think that ignoring a court
ordered directive was an option for most (any?) people. Why hasn't Obama produced this
document to make the question go away, and then raise the issue of McCains citizenship so
that the question is focused at McCains citizenship, and not Obama's?
I was always under the impression that if a Judge says "Jump!", then you jump or face the
consequences for your inaction. I guess I'm naive. This may be utter bull****, but isn't it
bull**** coming from a Judge via a court order? How is producing this document optional?
As far as the "right people" having already seen this document at some different time & place,
what bearing does that have on Mr. Obama ignoring this current court order?
FYI....I don't care that Mr. Obama is Black, or White, or Green, or Plaid....or a Democrat or
a Republican. My question is, "Why can he just ignore a court order?" Just produce it and then
call out McCain to do the same thing. Then it's over and done with and everyone comes out as
eligible and credible.
He is not ignoring a court order, the judge threw it out, but if the courts did actually legally
order him to do as the law suit asked, he would have to. He doesn't have to.
It is amazing to me how much press the press is giving this issue, and it is because it is the
press who are being told what to do, and they 'hate' that. The person trying to force this issue
has not been given credability, and the courts will not grant him his wish. Good for the
courts, there is a limit to everything.
You have a lot more confidence in our government (the "right" people) than most Americans.
You just don't get the US. A birth certificate is not a private document. NOT PRIVATE. Almost nothing is private. Yes, we supposedly have the privacy act for medical reasons, but that blows itself up regularly.
In fact, I think it should be required that every one present their birth certificate whenever asked. I used to show it at the Canadian border instead of a passport. DUH! And to every other foreign port in the neighborhood. I can walk in the federal building and get any birth certificate (except maybe Obama's) in this country for $8.00.
Uncle
Trippy....up here we have to have two other pieces of I.D. and pay $25 so that your
own Birth Certificate will show up in the mail about three weeks later...unless you wish
to pay another $30 extra on top of the $25 to get it the same day.
This Obama Birth Certificate thing is a done deal and a non-issue now though last I heard.
The court doesn't have to make him produce that document for 'anyone', only those who
they deem as credable and for good reason, and the reason should be 'by' those who
have that responsibility, not just some 'blogger', or 'press person'. Can you imagine if
the courts had to answer to anyone and everyone who decided to demand 'whatever' they
wanted, the courts are bogged down enough as it is now.
His birth certificate can be checked by the 'right' people, and have been long ago.
Where are you guys getting your information? Everything I'm reading indicates that the FEC HASN'T seen his birth certificate. There's even a petition going for the FEC to check it out.
It appears this claim that the "right people" have his documentation is an assumption.
It appears this claim that the "right people" have his documentation is an assumption.
Is this resolved or not resolved? I'm getting conflicting info on this. Just curious, but who are
these "right people" anyway?
Can someone provide a reliable link, one way or the other so this thread can either die, or
continue in a single direction?
When i referred to 'the right' people, I was meaning government officials (departments of
birth and registry) etc., or other such departments who have such authority, they will and
can show the information to those 'who' have the right to ask, and see it, not anyone, anytime
they wish.
for instance, if the judge had deemed the law suit appropriate, he then has the authority to have
that document brought forth, I don't know, I'm not even a government/birth registry person, or a judge, it
just seems like 'common sense' to me.
Yup, understood.
It does seem like common sense. That's what makes the issue so interesting. If it turns out you can run for and be elected President of the U.S., and no one even checks your ID?? sheesh.
Maybe the 'right' people means every Republican who wants to shoot off his mouth? I doubt if the United States of Paranoia is going to lock the doors to everyone but let a President run for election without proof that he's qualified for the job.