Merger of the Century: Why Canada and America Should Become One Country

Machjo

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Not a chance in hell. We should give up our sovereignty I don't think so
Dual citizen indeed but I am a citizen of one nation Canada and I want to
keep it that way.

With that attitude, Canada itself would never have confederated.

Why not go back to our unifying roots?

Is a Canada-U.S. merger the cure for ‘creeping takeover’ by the world's big players?

Veteran National Post columnist Diane Francis has written 10 books. Merger of the Century: Why Canada and America Should Become One Country is easily her most ambitious.

Perhaps a little too ambitious, many readers might conclude.

It is also, in a way, her most personal. As an American-born dual citizen, Ms. Francis writes passionately about the many historical and cultural ties that bind her ancestral and adopted countries. Merger of the Century makes the case for erasing the formal distinction between the two entirely. “After all, we’re both melting-pot societies,” she says. So why not turn the whole continent north of the Rio Grande into the world’s biggest pot?

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Jonathan Kay: Diane Francis’ plan to merge Canada and the United States has many, many problems | National Post


I like the idea in principle.
 

darkbeaver

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I never was quite sure why some people are against free trade. I know when I lived on the Canada-U.S. border, F.T. sure saved me a lot of duty when bringing stuff back.

It wasn't good for Atlantic Canada, that's why we work out west.

If he wants to make fun of me, I guess it's his choice.
It sure enforces my belief that Americans are scum.

:lol:

I don't think there are any more scum per capita than in any other western nation but I do think many Americans believe their nation is exceptional but this is only a symptom of imperialism. I feel sorry for America but I think the change will do them good, if it dosn't kill them. It could end peacefully if they got their **** together. God help them.
 

Machjo

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I entirely agree and I am a dual citizen. We immigrated here in '69 and became citizens in '75 for a lot of good reasons and certainly don't want to lose the benefits of Canadian citizenship nor be submerged in their gun-crazy, free-for-all capitalism.

So are you opposed to a merger, or are you opposed to a merger that abandons the benefits of Canadian citizenship and Canadian gun laws?

Or put another way, are you oppsoed to merger in principle, or based on certain criteria?

So you like the principles of totalitarianism. Good for you. Worry about the practice.

What totalitarianism?

All it says is merge. It does not specify what to merge into. so the question becomes, do you oppose mergin in principle, or depending on the details?

Obviously I would not support merger under any condition.
 

JLM

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Anyway. I still think Americans are dirty little turds. Stay in your filthy country, you dirty rats.

That is an ignorant statement that just removes any credibility the spokesman may have had! -:)

If he wants to make fun of me, I guess it's his choice.
It sure enforces my belief that Americans are scum.

:lol:

And you've studied 320 million of them! -:)
 

tober

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Obviously I would not support merger under any condition.

Agreed. To those who say we cannot judge all Americans, it's not about that. Every nation has its own distinct culture. I think trading our culture for what America offers would be disastrous for Canadians. There are 330,000,000 Americans and 33,000,000 Canadians, give or take. They outnumber us 10-1. Their legal and political systems and their culture are distinctly different from ours. We would be the losers.

I am not anti-Americans, I am anti-American ideology. I just got home from the village pub where I spent most of the evening with my next door neighbour and a group of seven Yanks up here bird hunting. We chatted hunting and got along just fine. That doesn't mean I want their culture for Canada. I am anti-US culture. America as a nation is an arrogant, war mongering, world bully. I would not have wanted a political discussion to have sprung up. There is good reason for the old saw about not discussing religion and politics.

The US may have a lot of problems, but it's full of people as unique as Canadians are. There's no cultural conspiracy to **** over the whole rest of the world.

I believe the US extreme right has a political policy to do so, just like German Nazis did prior to WW2. Both pre-WW2 Germany and post 20th Century US neo-conservatism are fascist. Call it a conspiracy if you wish. Fascism is a recognized ideology. It is not racist to recognize that fascist culture.

As for your link, it reads to me that it actually says the opposite in regards to Bush.

You appear to be right. I stand corrected.
 

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EagleSmack; said:





same old shït




By the way, your fellow Tea Baggers have had their day:


Tea Party Support Dwindles to Near-Record Low




September 26, 2013
Tea Party Support Dwindles to Near-Record Low

Republicans ambivalent about movement, while most Democrats oppose it

by Lydia Saad


PRINCETON, NJ -- As Washington braces for another budget showdown, this time with the threat of defunding the new healthcare law in the mix, the key political force pushing for conservative policies sees diminished popular support. Fewer Americans now describe themselves as supporters of the Tea Party movement than did at the height of the movement in 2010, or even at the start of 2012. Today's 22% support nearly matches the record low found two years ago.










:lol:
 

JLM

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same old shït




By the way, your fellow Tea Baggers have had their day:


Tea Party Support Dwindles to Near-Record Low




September 26, 2013
Tea Party Support Dwindles to Near-Record Low

Republicans ambivalent about movement, while most Democrats oppose it

by Lydia Saad


PRINCETON, NJ -- As Washington braces for another budget showdown, this time with the threat of defunding the new healthcare law in the mix, the key political force pushing for conservative policies sees diminished popular support. Fewer Americans now describe themselves as supporters of the Tea Party movement than did at the height of the movement in 2010, or even at the start of 2012. Today's 22% support nearly matches the record low found two years ago.










:lol:

Yep, their legal and political system is a little different, but I don't see too much difference in the culture except for maybe football vs. hockey. (with the odd rooster fight thrown in)
 

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If he wants to make fun of me, I guess it's his choice.
It sure enforces my belief that Americans are scum.

:lol:

So you're a mental misfit and you think because you are slow as molasses you'll have immunity here?

So at least we know were you're getting your info from... LaLa Land.
 
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Is bigger always better?

If you're living in city that has been amalgamated and your community get less attention and representation now are you better off. Take that to the national level, a union of Canada and the US would see us become a small part of the political and economic makeup of the US. Many Americans know little of Canada and are even less which would mean we'd be expected to become a lot more like Americans.

I also have dual citizenship and my family goes back to the colonies before the revolution. There are some really great things about America and Canada both and I think we make better friends than marriage partners.
 

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If he wants to make fun of me, I guess it's his choice.
It sure enforces my belief that Americans are scum.

:lol:

Perhaps changing your tone may help, such as asking a question.
Hating a complete country and all the people in it, well a lot of hate to carry around.
Just sying is all
 

Sons of Liberty

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Amalgamation ain't gonna happen; Canucks n Yanks (except for the ones living near the border maybe) are about as similar as Alaskans n Californians or Peruvians n Mongols.

Funny you should bring that up, I was having this conversation with a nice couple from Alberta just recently on a visit of theirs to New York. I was commenting how Scotians have a lot more in common with people from Maine for example than the hippies (Vancouver) out West. Same of course in reverse, our hippies in Washington have more in common with your hippies in Vancouver than the people out East.

Is bigger always better?

I would say so, double D's are my weakness.

If you're living in city that has been amalgamated and your community get less attention and representation now are you better off. Take that to the national level, a union of Canada and the US would see us become a small part of the political and economic makeup of the US. Many Americans know little of Canada and are even less which would mean we'd be expected to become a lot more like Americans.

Not really, Americans are just the sum of their parts (states), much like Canadians are, not to say we should, just pointing out the obvious.

I also have dual citizenship and my family goes back to the colonies before the revolution. There are some really great things about America and Canada both and I think we make better friends than marriage partners.

Very well put, I agree. Can you please expand on your exports of honey and maple syrup? I sometimes have a hard time getting it down here.