Merger of the Century: Why Canada and America Should Become One Country

EagleSmack

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 16, 2005
44,168
96
48
USA
As for your link, it reads to me that it actually says the opposite in regards to Bush.

Do you expect a retraction from him?

He's on to the next post of BS as we speak.

George Bush's grandfather or great grandfather was a banker who was convicted after WW1 of trading with the enemy. Prescott Bush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wrong again Tober!

Prescott Bush was an artillery officer in WW1... so he may have been trading AT MOST artillery shells with the Germans.

As for being convicted after WWII... wrong. Just another figment of your imagination or that good ol' education I keep hearing about.
 

Goober

Hall of Fame Member
Jan 23, 2009
24,691
116
63
Moving
Are you able to produce some evidence to back up your position. Got a link? I suspect the item you read referred to U-boats refueling "in US waters," meaning that U-boat tankers met with Type VII and Type IX U-boats off the US coast for at-sea refueling. This only happened after 1942 at a time when America was a combatant. Prior to that before America entered the war a U-boat sank USS Reuben James, a USN destroyer escort, with the loss of all hands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Reuben_James_(DD-245)
World War II[edit source | edit]Upon the outbreak of war in Europe in September 1939, she joined the Neutrality Patrol, guarding the Atlantic and Caribbean approaches to the American coast. In March 1941, Reuben James joined the convoy escort force established to promote the safe arrival of materiel to the United Kingdom. This escort force guarded convoys as far as Iceland, after which they became the responsibility of British escorts.

Based at Hvalfjordur, Iceland, she sailed from Naval Station Argentia, Newfoundland, on 23 October, with four other destroyers to escort eastbound convoy HX 156. At about 0525 on 31 October, while escorting that convoy, Reuben James was torpedoed by U-552 commanded by Kapitänleutnant Erich Topp near Iceland. Reuben James had positioned herself between an ammunition ship in the convoy and the known position of a "wolfpack", a group of submarines that preyed on Allied shipping. Reuben James was hit forward by a torpedo and her entire bow was blown off when a magazine exploded. The bow sank immediately. The aft section floated for five minutes before going down. Of the 159-man crew, only 44 survived.



Army Air Forces in World War II

Germany quickly took advantage of this unpreparedness. Within a month of the U.S. declaration of war, the first German submarine arrived in American waters. Between mid-January 1942 and the end of June, U-boats sank 397 ships--171 off the east coast of the Unites States, 62 in the Gulf of Mexico, and 141 in the Caribbean Sea. Many of these were tankers. In the beginning of March Adm. Karl Dönitz, commander of Germany's submarine fleet, used specially modified U-boats to refuel and resupply operational submarines. These "milch cow" submarines, as he called them, extended a U-boat's patrol of five to six weeks to averages of sixty-two days with one refueling and eighty-one days with a second refueling. This practice vastly expanded each submarine's effectiveness in the American theater.


By June, the U.S. Navy, supported by the AAF, had driven most of the U-boats from the east coast, but enemy submarines continued to wreak havoc on Allied shipping in the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean Sea. The Allies lost three million tons of shipping and five thousand men, mostly in American waters, during the first half of 1942. The loss of cargo grievously endangered Great Britain's ability to continue the war.

Germany quickly took advantage of this unpreparedness. Within a month of the U.S. declaration of war, the first German submarine arrived in American waters. Between mid-January 1942 and the end of June, U-boats sank 397 ships--171 off the east coast of the Unites States, 62 in the Gulf of Mexico, and 141 in the Caribbean Sea. Many of these were tankers. In the beginning of March Adm. Karl Dönitz, commander of Germany's submarine fleet, used specially modified U-boats to refuel and resupply operational submarines. These "milch cow" submarines, as he called them, extended a U-boat's patrol of five to six weeks to averages of sixty-two days with one refueling and eighty-one days with a second refueling. This practice vastly expanded each submarine's effectiveness in the American theater.


By June, the U.S. Navy, supported by the AAF, had driven most of the U-boats from the east coast, but enemy submarines continued to wreak havoc on Allied shipping in the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean Sea. The Allies lost three million tons of shipping and five thousand men, mostly in American waters, during the first half of 1942. The loss of cargo grievously endangered Great Britain's ability to continue the war.

Germany quickly took advantage of this unpreparedness. Within a month of the U.S. declaration of war, the first German submarine arrived in American waters. Between mid-January 1942 and the end of June, U-boats sank 397 ships--171 off the east coast of the Unites States, 62 in the Gulf of Mexico, and 141 in the Caribbean Sea. Many of these were tankers. In the beginning of March Adm. Karl Dönitz, commander of Germany's submarine fleet, used specially modified U-boats to refuel and resupply operational submarines. These "milch cow" submarines, as he called them, extended a U-boat's patrol of five to six weeks to averages of sixty-two days with one refueling and eighty-one days with a second refueling. This practice vastly expanded each submarine's effectiveness in the American theater.


By June, the U.S. Navy, supported by the AAF, had driven most of the U-boats from the east coast, but enemy submarines continued to wreak havoc on Allied shipping in the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean Sea. The Allies lost three million tons of shipping and five thousand men, mostly in American waters, during the first half of 1942. The loss of cargo grievously endangered Great Britain's ability to continue the war.

Irish neutrality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

JLM

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 27, 2008
75,301
548
113
Vernon, B.C.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Reuben_James_(DD-245)
World War II[edit source | edit]Upon the outbreak of war in Europe in September 1939, she joined the Neutrality Patrol, guarding the Atlantic and Caribbean approaches to the American coast. In March 1941, Reuben James joined the convoy escort force established to promote the safe arrival of materiel to the United Kingdom. This escort force guarded convoys as far as Iceland, after which they became the responsibility of British escorts.

I don't quite understand what events during W.W. II have to do with whether Canada and the U.S. should merge. However, I don't think they should merge!
 

darkbeaver

the universe is electric
Jan 26, 2006
41,035
201
63
RR1 Distopia 666 Discordia
I don't quite understand what events during W.W. II have to do with whether Canada and the U.S. should merge. However, I don't think they should merge!

I think it's just thread creep. I'm not sure. I'm not up for a merger either but with the SPP agreements and the sure to be signed TPP agreements we'll be effectively welded to each other and Mexico. Together we stand divided we get to sit. This will be the finest thing since free trade.
 

Goober

Hall of Fame Member
Jan 23, 2009
24,691
116
63
Moving
I don't quite understand what events during W.W. II have to do with whether Canada and the U.S. should merge. However, I don't think they should merge!

I know- it was off topic but it happens.
 

JLM

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 27, 2008
75,301
548
113
Vernon, B.C.
I think it's just thread creep. I'm not sure. I'm not up for a merger either but with the SPP agreements and the sure to be signed TPP agreements we'll be effectively welded to each other and Mexico. Together we stand divided we get to sit. This will be the finest thing since free trade.

I never was quite sure why some people are against free trade. I know when I lived on the Canada-U.S. border, F.T. sure saved me a lot of duty when bringing stuff back.
 

Angstrom

Hall of Fame Member
May 8, 2011
10,659
0
36
I'd love to see this documentation

You all have a great day visiting the Canadian war museum. Make a day of it. Bring your kids it's a good exposition.
Enjoy.

Anyway. I still think Americans are dirty little turds. Stay in your filthy country, you dirty rats.
 

Goober

Hall of Fame Member
Jan 23, 2009
24,691
116
63
Moving
You all have a great day visiting the Canadian war museum. Make a day of it. Bring your kids it's a good exposition.
Enjoy.

Anyway. I still think Americans are dirty little turds. Stay in your filthy country, you dirty rats.
Dig up the info- It ain't there so that should keep you busy looking for a few decades.
 

Angstrom

Hall of Fame Member
May 8, 2011
10,659
0
36
Dig up the info- It ain't there so that should keep you busy looking for a few decades.

I looked
It's not on the net.
At this pointe the internet is being censored heavily by agency's like NSA. so no surprise.

Dose not mean its none existent.

I'm working close to the museum, I may just drop in and get pictures for all you none belibers.
 
Last edited:

Goober

Hall of Fame Member
Jan 23, 2009
24,691
116
63
Moving
I looked
It's not on the net.

Dose not mean its none existent.

I'm working close to the museum, I may just drop in and get pictures for all you none belibers.
My next suggestion.
And stop putting yourself down as stupid.
 

karrie

OogedyBoogedy
Jan 6, 2007
27,780
285
83
bliss
You all have a great day visiting the Canadian war museum. Make a day of it. Bring your kids it's a good exposition.
Enjoy.

Anyway. I still think Americans are dirty little turds. Stay in your filthy country, you dirty rats.


No country is any one way. The only reason to think Americans are 'dirty little turds' is to try to boost your own self perception by convincing yourself you're intrinsically better than a whole group of people. It's no different than racism, homophobia, or sexism.

The US may have a lot of problems, but it's full of people as unique as Canadians are. There's no cultural conspiracy to **** over the whole rest of the world.
 

Angstrom

Hall of Fame Member
May 8, 2011
10,659
0
36
It isn't your fault!

It was my fault.

That's what a conversation is, it can, at times divert off topic a little.
It happens.

Will get back to the main subject soon enough.

If I'm right and can show proof of my claims, I'd say its a legit reason for many Canadians to despise Americans.

No country is any one way. The only reason to think Americans are 'dirty little turds' is to try to boost your own self perception by convincing yourself you're intrinsically better than a whole group of people. It's no different than racism, homophobia, or sexism.

The US may have a lot of problems, but it's full of people as unique as Canadians are. There's no cultural conspiracy to **** over the whole rest of the world.

I treat them the same way I see them treating others.
But yes I'm generalizing.

My next suggestion.
And stop putting yourself down as stupid.

I'm not even supposed to be functional. It's the diagnosis I was given at 10.
Psychologists told my parents I would likely never function as a normal person, in society.

So, what he says is true. I live with it every day. It's like being born with a andicap.

I like to think I manage it well enough, but people still can see it.
 

Goober

Hall of Fame Member
Jan 23, 2009
24,691
116
63
Moving
It was my fault.

That's what a conversation is, it can, at times divert off topic a little.
It happens.

Will get back to the main subject soon enough.

If I'm right and can show proof of my claims, I'd say its a legit reason for many Canadians to despise Americans.



I treat them the same way I see them treating others.
But yes I'm generalizing.



I'm not even supposed to be functional. It's the diagnosis I was given at 10.
Psychologists told my parents I would likely never function as a normal person, in society.

So, what he says is true. I live with it every day. It's like being born with a andicap.

I like to think I manage it well enough, but people still can see it.

Well you have proven the diagnosis to be wrong. And it would be a fight every day of your life.
My hat is off to you Sir.
 

Angstrom

Hall of Fame Member
May 8, 2011
10,659
0
36
Well you have proven the diagnosis to be wrong. And it would be a fight every day of your life.
My hat is off to you Sir.

If he wants to make fun of me, I guess it's his choice.
It sure enforces my belief that Americans are scum.

:lol: