Latest poll on Capital punishment

SirJosephPorter

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That doesn't surprise me at all. The only point I was making was that polls can be very fickle, so their validity can have a short shelf life. :smile:

Polls on death penalty have been very stable for several years now. A clear majority is opposed to bringing back the death penalty. That is why the Angus Reid poll is suspect (especially since a poll taken after that. very recently does fall in line with other polls).
 

SirJosephPorter

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"Can't speak for Canadians but as a Yank, I'm 100% in favor of restoring capitol punishment against convicted right wing traitors under the Patriot Act. Let's take those Michigan militia traitors and hang them from the highest tree! It'll teach them a lesson."

How about despicable left-wing, racist traitors who should be convicted like Louis Farrakhan and his thugs? How about the entire Nation of Islam?

They love death penalty in USA, I am sure there is room for all of them, of the right and the left to be executed.

As Lord High Executioner says in Mikado, when he describes his list of people he is going to execute:

"But it really doesn't matter whom you put upon the list,
For they'd none of 'em be missed--they'd none of 'em be
missed!"
 

lone wolf

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They love death penalty in USA, I am sure there is room for all of them, of the right and the left to be executed.

As Lord High Executioner says in Mikado, when he describes his list of people he is going to execute:

"But it really doesn't matter whom you put upon the list,
For they'd none of 'em be missed--they'd none of 'em be
missed!"

In making the quote to support your cause, you justify the penalty.
 

AnnaG

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Like it or not, he still is a citizen of Canada. By committing crimes, criminals obviously lose some of the rights. However, some rights are not lost no matter how horrendous the crimes. The right to life is one of them.
But as you state that no-one has the rights to the necessities of life (food, water, shelter, etc.) folks like Olson could be starved, die of hypothermia, dehydration or something, though, right?
 

gopher

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"I'm all for hanging those guilty of treason in the USA....
Of course, you'd have to start with Bill Clinton. :wink:"

Aw, c'on -- you meant, Bush, of course.
 

shadowshiv

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Like it or not, he still is a citizen of Canada. By committing crimes, criminals obviously lose some of the rights. However, some rights are not lost no matter how horrendous the crimes. The right to life is one of them.

That's right! I almost forgot! We're in Canada, where the criminals have more rights than the victims.
 

shadowshiv

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They love death penalty in USA, I am sure there is room for all of them, of the right and the left to be executed.

As Lord High Executioner says in Mikado, when he describes his list of people he is going to execute:

"But it really doesn't matter whom you put upon the list,
For they'd none of 'em be missed--they'd none of 'em be
missed!"

If they truly loved the Death Penalty like you say, then all of the States would have it as an option. The majority of States do not, so that shows to me that they don't love it at all.
 

theconqueror

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Justice can never be served, but we can prevent crime. And one way to teach people how to be law abiding citizens is to not allow negative punishment such as capitol punishment into our eyes. That way the justice system as a role model on how to obey the law doesn't set a bad example on the public.

For example, I do not even own a television anymore because of the brainwashing and negativity that it is representing as a bad influence to the public.

If the negativity is barred from the public's eyes, we wouldn't have these crimes to deal with because they no longer become set examples of what we are teaching.

So, do we teach people to live like Hollywood on that television that you are watching, or...... do we outlaw all negativity like we are supposed to, so we can set good examples?

I think Canada's role in outlawing capitol punishment is just that. Not right for Canada not right for you which I applaud Canada for setting this good example.
 

YukonJack

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"One does not lose citizenship by committing crimes. If Olsen was a citizen before committing murders, then he was a citizen after committing the murders (unless he was a naturalized citizen, then he could be deported)."

In any and ALL of the former Communist countries and also in the current Communist countries, a convicted felon DOES lose his rights as a citizen. Hell, in those countries a person convicted of jaywalking loses all his rights as a citizen. And based on your posts, you admire Castro, Chavez, Stalin, Mao, Che and Pol Pot, just to name a few of your ideal leaders of your socialist Utopia.

If you want to change Canada into a Northern version of Cuba or venezuela (as an Obama admirer, you obviously do), you and your fellow Obama acolytes are on the right track.

It is obvious that you as a liberal you believe only in rights and responsibilities can go to hell.
 

Praxius

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This is just a poll and that is all it is, but according to CBC 62% of all Canadians want the death penalty reinstated. (I wonder if Olson's monthly stipend had anything to do with it................:lol::lol::lol:)

I'd say it's due to many being fed up with our current justice system where it seems the law protects the criminals more then the victims these days.

In some cases... I can see it being justified.... like Robert Pickton and the likes.

While waste our tax money on scum like that? Take em out back, two rounds in the head, feed him to his pigs and forget all about it, because people like that don't deserve the fame that comes with their crimes and shouldn't get a free pass in life such as a roof over their head, security and hot meals at our expense.
 

SirJosephPorter

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"I'm all for hanging those guilty of treason in the USA....
Of course, you'd have to start with Bill Clinton. :wink:"

Aw, c'on -- you meant, Bush, of course.

No gopher, he means Clinton, Obama and all the Democratic party members (some tens of millions of them). Perhaps even all the Democratic voters. Then USA will be purged of impure thoughts, only God's party (Republican) and Godly people (Republican supporters) will be left to rule forever and paradise, God's kingdom will be established in USA.
 

SirJosephPorter

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If they truly loved the Death Penalty like you say, then all of the States would have it as an option. The majority of States do not, so that shows to me that they don't love it at all.

I think majority of the states do have that opnion. Death penalty is outlawed in only a handful of states.

And while worldwide the wind is blowing against death penalty (more and more countries are outlawing death penalty), in USA it is actually blowing in favour of death penalty.

New York state didn't used to have a death penalty, but they brought it back by by passing death penalty legislation. Fortunately the courts showed some sanity and ruled it unconstitutional.
 

SirJosephPorter

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That's right! I almost forgot! We're in Canada, where the criminals have more rights than the victims.

Much as you may not like the fact, the criminals do have some rights. By committing a crime they give up many of their rights, but by no means all.

They have a right to fair trial. They have a right not to be tortured. They have a right to adequate food, clothing, shelter and medical care. They have the right not to be discriminated against. The prison authorities cannot bring forth one set of rules for whites and one for non whites.


Same way, they are entitled to right to life. This means that the government may not take their life.
 

SirJosephPorter

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While waste our tax money on scum like that? Take em out back, two rounds in the head, feed him to his pigs and forget all about it, because people like that don't deserve the fame that comes with their crimes and shouldn't get a free pass in life such as a roof over their head, security and hot meals at our expense.

That can be done in a dictatorship, like Taliban’s Afghanistan or Saddam’s Iraq. But in a democracy, we must follow the due process of law. And didn’t a supporter of death penalty a while back say here that he doesn’t support death for Pickton?

In Canada, we have such a thing called the constitution and the Charter. They do not permit summary execution of anybody. Any attempt to execute anybody will be tied up in courts for ten years or more, as routinely happens in USA (that is why it is more expensive in USA to execute someone that to lock him up for life).

It sounds good, take him out back, shoot him and be done with it. But that is a slippery slope towards dictatorship, that cannot be done in a democracy.

Letting people like Pickton or Olsen live is the price we pay for the civil society, for a liberal, tolerant democracy. In my opinion, the price is worth it.
 

gerryh

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Same way, they are entitled to right to life. This means that the government may not take their life.


Defending the right to life of those that take the life of children, yet has no problem with supporting the murder of thousands of baby's every year through abortion.
 

JLM

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Defending the right to life of those that take the life of children, yet has no problem with supporting the murder of thousands of baby's every year through abortion.

Morning Ger...................that's very easy to do when you make up your rules..........:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

Colpy

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Once again......I firmly believe that if you can prove three separate murders in front of three separate judges and juries, than the person so convicted should be executed immediately following their third conviction.

Some people simply don't deserve to draw breath.

Case in point:

Sharing a cell with a killer