Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza

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Yes see post 384...

The resolution was adopted by a majority of 35 countries from among the 58 members of the United Nations at that time; however all six Arab countries then represented at the UN voted against it (Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Yemen, all were parties to the conflict in question). Israel had not yet been admitted to the UN.[1]

The resolution consists of 15 articles, the most quoted of which are:

Article 7: protection and free access to the Holy Places
Article 8: demilitarization and UN control over Jerusalem
Article 9: free access to Jerusalem
Article 11: calls for the return of refugees

And your point is..................................
 

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Yes see post 384...


Did you actually read what you posted along with the imbedded links?

A/AC.24/SR.45 of 5 May 1949

note this

By the date of its request for admission, the State of Israel had successfully withstood an aggressive onslaught launched against it by seven States including six Members of the United Nations, in an effort to negate the General Assembly's resolution by force. Israel had established the foundations of its government and had secured recognition by nineteen States. It had persistently made efforts to negotiate with the neighbouring Arab States for an end to the war and the establishment of peace. Israel was the only State involved in the war which had undertaken to comply with the Security Council's resolution of 16 November 1948,2/ calling upon the Governments concerned to negotiate an armistice as a transition to lasting peace. Israel had emerged from mortal danger into the clear prospect of survival and, having reached that degree of stability both in its domestic institutions and its international position, had come forward to assume its obligations as a Member of the United Nations.

Israel's application had therefore been on the agenda of the United Nations for five months. During the first discussion in the Security Council in December 1948,3/ there had already been a considerable body of opinion ready to favour an immediate recommendation for admission. Some delegations had, however, counselled a brief delay and had pointed out that a beginning had not yet been made in the process of negotiation called for by the Security Council and by the General Assembly. Other delegations invoked the provisional character of Israel's governmental institutions and the somewhat restricted basis of its international recognition at that time. The Israeli Government had found it difficult to admit that any reading of Article 4 of the Charter made those considerations strictly relevant. Many States had been admitted to membership before the establishment of elected Governments and, if the conciliation effort had not yet begun, the fault was not with Israel, which had been the first to propose direct armistice and peace talks in a formal communication to Arab States through the Mediator as early as August 1948.4/

Nevertheless, the Israel Government, realizing that the Security Council was the organ of the United Nations with "primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security", had taken sympathetic note of the Council's hesitations and had waited until March 1949 before requesting further consideration of its application.5/ In the interim, Israel's consolidation had progressed rapidly; it had secured recognition by an overwhelming majority of other States; it had conducted the only democratic election with full popular participation which had been seen in that part of the Near East for several years; it had established a legislature based on popular suffrage, had formed a government dedicated to the principles of parliamentary democracy and social reform, and had elected a Head of State who symbolized Israel's concern for international prestige and scientific humanism. After direct and intricate negotiations under the skillful direction of the Acting Mediator, the Government of Israel had concluded an armistice agreement with Egypt, the leading Power in the Arab world, and wished to regard that agreement as the prelude to peace between the two countries.
 

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Note the word IF....

I don't believe a word that comes from the Muddled East. It's all subject to the tools of propaganda
No doubt... but our news reports pro-Israeli propaganda. Our news doesn't report the Palestinian version.... which is why most Canadian are oblivious to Palestinian suffering. But Europe gets better information regarding this conflict than Canadians and as a result fewer of them support Israel's war criminals or their crimes against humanity:

British public opinion turning against Israel, warns ambassador

British public opinion regarding Israel is turning because of its hardline policies towards the Palestinians, the UK ambassador has warned.

In an unusually forthright interview on Israeli television, Matthew Gould said that an increasing number of Britons see Israel as "Goliath" and the Palestinians as "David" – a mirror image of the Jewish state's narrative of itself.

"Support for Israel is starting to erode and that's not about these people on the fringe who are shouting loudly and calling for boycotts and all the rest of it," he told the Channel 10 television station.

"The centre ground, the majority, the British public may not be expert but they are not stupid and they see a stream of announcements about new building in settlements, they read stories about what's going on the West Bank, they read about restrictions in Gaza."

Mr Gould also said he had detected a shift in attitude against Israel among centrist MPs in Britain amid growing frustration with the lack of progress in the peace process.

Although his comments will irritate the Israeli right, which has always viewed Britain as pro-Palestinian, they have prompted a debate in the country, not least because Mr Gould is Jewish and is seen as a friend of Israel. Government officials said they had "taken note" of his message.

Israelis are well aware that international support for their country has dwindled, but many are convinced that the problem is one of image rather than substance. Frequent seminars are held to find ways of improving the perception of Israel abroad, something Israelis call "hasbara".

But Mr Gould said that public relations campaigns to justify Israeli policies would not remedy the problem.

Although many older Britons remain bitter over Jewish terrorist attacks against British servicemen in mandate-era Palestine in the 1940s, the post-war generation warmed to Israel, admiring its perceived pluck during conflicts with the Arab world in the 1960s and 1970s that called into question the Jewish state’s survival.

But buoyed by vast sums of US aid, Israel is now the unquestioned military powerhouse in the Middle East, while the Palestinians seem no closer to achieving a state of their own years after the last suicide bombing in Israel.


British public opinion turning against Israel, warns ambassador - Telegraph

In general most Canadians know little more than Israeli propaganda and far less about this conflict than most Britons.
 

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No doubt... but our news reports pro-Israeli propaganda. Our news doesn't report the Palestinian version.... which is why most Canadian are oblivious to Palestinian suffering. But Europe gets better information regarding this conflict than Canadians and as a result fewer of them support Israel's war criminals or their crimes against humanity:

In general most Canadians know little more than Israeli propaganda and far less about this conflict than most Britons.

How much do you know- as people have to educate you on the topic.
 

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No doubt... but our news reports pro-Israeli propaganda. Our news doesn't report the Palestinian version.... which is why most Canadian are oblivious to Palestinian suffering. But Europe gets better information regarding this conflict than Canadians and as a result fewer of them support Israel's war criminals or their crimes against humanity:

British public opinion turning against Israel, warns ambassador

British public opinion regarding Israel is turning because of its hardline policies towards the Palestinians, the UK ambassador has warned.

In an unusually forthright interview on Israeli television, Matthew Gould said that an increasing number of Britons see Israel as "Goliath" and the Palestinians as "David" – a mirror image of the Jewish state's narrative of itself.

"Support for Israel is starting to erode and that's not about these people on the fringe who are shouting loudly and calling for boycotts and all the rest of it," he told the Channel 10 television station.

"The centre ground, the majority, the British public may not be expert but they are not stupid and they see a stream of announcements about new building in settlements, they read stories about what's going on the West Bank, they read about restrictions in Gaza."

Mr Gould also said he had detected a shift in attitude against Israel among centrist MPs in Britain amid growing frustration with the lack of progress in the peace process.

Although his comments will irritate the Israeli right, which has always viewed Britain as pro-Palestinian, they have prompted a debate in the country, not least because Mr Gould is Jewish and is seen as a friend of Israel. Government officials said they had "taken note" of his message.

Israelis are well aware that international support for their country has dwindled, but many are convinced that the problem is one of image rather than substance. Frequent seminars are held to find ways of improving the perception of Israel abroad, something Israelis call "hasbara".

But Mr Gould said that public relations campaigns to justify Israeli policies would not remedy the problem.

Although many older Britons remain bitter over Jewish terrorist attacks against British servicemen in mandate-era Palestine in the 1940s, the post-war generation warmed to Israel, admiring its perceived pluck during conflicts with the Arab world in the 1960s and 1970s that called into question the Jewish state’s survival.

But buoyed by vast sums of US aid, Israel is now the unquestioned military powerhouse in the Middle East, while the Palestinians seem no closer to achieving a state of their own years after the last suicide bombing in Israel.


British public opinion turning against Israel, warns ambassador - Telegraph

In general most Canadians know little more than Israeli propaganda and far less about this conflict than most Britons.
The funniest part about that post is, the fact that you don't understand the different between turning against, what you claim to be against, and turning against Israel.

The fact that you endorse all that, only serves to support my previous observations.

Definitely one for the old bookmarks for future use when annoying you with your own words is in order.
 

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Post #1627249 - Re: Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza Good earth_as_one

Wonderful, that statement by the u.n. puts a lie to some of the basic tenets of your attacks against Israel. You have stated that from the very beginning Israel has attacked and not wanted peace... this statement from the u.n. states otherwise.


You expected something different from Hypocrite?

His goal is the delegitimizing of Israel, by demonization. There is no need for truth or honesty, or consistent standards in that process.
 

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gerryh... which is why many nations voted to recognize Israel. But the understanding was that Israel would eventually honor their word... but now many of those promises Israel made to the UN regarding the people they displaced (cleansed off the land for not being Jewish) are not even negotiable, let alone have a snow ball's chance in hell of ever being honored.

But as you can see by what's been going on lately is that Israel has continued to treat Palestinians cruelly. Its obvious that Israel's leaders are intent on ridding the holy lands of non-Jews. But while people suffer injustice and oppression, some of them will resist violently. As more Canadians become more aware of Palestinian suffering, fewer of them will support Israel just like the Britons.

BTW, I don't tell people what to think. The more people are informed about this conflict, the fewer of them that will support one side's war criminals.
 

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gerryh... which is why many nations voted to recognize Israel. But the understanding was that Israel would eventually honor their word... but now many of those promises Israel made to the UN regarding the people they displaced (cleansed off the land for not being Jewish) are not even negotiable, let alone have a snow ball's chance in hell of ever being honored.

But as you can see by what's been going on lately is that Israel has continued to treat Palestinians cruelly. Its obvious that Israel's leaders are intent on ridding the holy lands of non-Jews. But while people suffer injustice and oppression, some of them will resist violently. As more Canadians become more aware of Palestinian suffering, fewer of them will support Israel just like the Britons.

BTW, I don't tell people what to think. The more people are informed about this conflict, the fewer of them that will support one side's war criminals.
Hypocrite, since you brought up injustice, yet again. Why is the injustice that is non First nations living on contested land, not something you fight for?
 

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gerryh... which is why many nations voted to recognize Israel. But the understanding was that Israel would eventually honor their word... but now many of those promises Israel made to the UN regarding the people they displaced (cleansed off the land for not being Jewish) are not even negotiable, let alone have a snow ball's chance in hell of ever being honored.

But as you can see by what's been going on lately is that Israel has continued to treat Palestinians cruelly. Its obvious that Israel's leaders are intent on ridding the holy lands of non-Jews. But while people suffer injustice and oppression, some of them will resist violently. As more Canadians become more aware of Palestinian suffering, fewer of them will support Israel just like the Britons.

BTW, I don't tell people what to think. The more people are informed about this conflict, the fewer of them that will support one side's war criminals.

How did the Arabs react- and why did they not sign. Care to expand on that.
 

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You expected something different from Hypocrite?

His goal is the delegitimizing of Israel, by demonization. There is no need for truth or honesty, or consistent standards in that process.
No one needs to delegitimize or demonize , Israel does it to themselves by their actions, which you want to ignore for some reason.
 

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No one needs to delegitimize or demonize...
And yet, here you and Hypocrite are, being as dishonest as possible, to do just that, lol...

Israel does it to themselves by their actions...
Than why do you and Hypocrite need to be so dishonest about the facts?

... which you want to ignore for some reason.
I do? Maybe to you, with your poor perception and limited cognitive skills.
 

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No doubt... but our news reports pro-Israeli propaganda. Our news doesn't report the Palestinian version.... which is why most Canadian are oblivious to Palestinian suffering. But Europe gets better information regarding this conflict than Canadians and as a result fewer of them support Israel's war criminals or their crimes against humanity:

There is no BUT.

If it's pro-Israeli, it's biased. If it says "bad Palestine", it's probably written by pro-Israel media. If it's pro-Palestine, it either doesn't get here or it's biased. If it says "bad Israel", it's probably exaggerated by Palistinians ... and if it says either Palestine war criminals or their crimes against humanity or Israeli war criminals or their crimes against humanity, it's propaganda. Believe what you will. It's part of the plot.

Everyone wants to sell their story - and there's always someone out here in the real world with too many bucks.
 

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And yet, here you and Hypocrite are, being as dishonest as possible, to do just that, lol...
You would think that,being as ignorant as you are you couldn't see facts right in front of your face.

Than why do you and Hypocrite need to be so dishonest about the facts?
I told you he failed English class.
Yes you do. You've never acknowledged how poorly Israelis have treated the Palestinians, you pretend like it doesn't happen.
 

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You would think that,being as ignorant as you are you couldn't see facts right in front of your face.


I told you he failed English class.

Yes you do. You've never acknowledged how poorly Israelis have treated the Palestinians, you pretend like it doesn't happen.

Asked some time ago for your so called impartial sites. Still looking are we??????????????????
 

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What would Jesus do?

It's His Holyland too.

Maybe we should just turn the damn place into a park and only let the original species roam freely.
 

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What would Jesus do?

It's His Holyland too.

Maybe we should just turn the damn place into a park and only let the original species roam freely.

A Radical Islamist Theme Park- Complete with all that goes with their deranged view of non Muslims.