Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza

[CDNBear]

I never voted against Israel's right to exist as a state... You post above creates a false impression (aka lie) about my position which is "unsure"

It doesn't create a false impression.

That vote and your attempts to demonize and delegitimize Israel. Removes any doubt about where you stand.

Your spam was neg repped. I should have reported your spam, but I'll let it slide and hope you come to your senses.

Anyways Hypocrite. When are you leaving?

 

[Goober]

I never voted against Israel's right to exist as a state... You post above creates a false impression (aka lie) about my position which is "unsure"

Yet every solution you have proposed would cause the State of Israel to disappear- Such as your calling for the Right of Return. So are you really unsure?

 

[CDNBear]

So are you really unsure?

No, that's just part of the facade.

 

[earth_as_one]

I believe its possible that one day Israelis will toss their war criminals out of office, hold them responsible for the crimes against humanity, and start treating their minorities and Palestinians with dignity and respect...

But I cannot support war criminals, oppression and injustice. I cannot support treating Palestinians worse than animals. I will support Israel when this state demonstrates that it is peace loving and respects fundamental human rights and freedoms.

So my support for Israel is not unshakeable like our PM's. It completely depends on their actions, respect for international law, treaties and conventions as well as their meeting the conditions and obligations for UN recognition:

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194

The General Assembly,
Having considered further the situation in Palestine,
Expresses its deep appreciation of the progress achieved through the good offices of the late United Nations Mediator in promoting a peaceful adjustment of the future situation of Palestine, for which cause he sacrificed his life; and extends its thanks to the Acting Mediator and his staff for their continued efforts and devotion to duty in Palestine;

• Establishes a Conciliation Commission consisting of three States Members of the United Nations which shall have the following functions:
• To assume, insofar as it considers necessary in existing circumstances, the functions given to the United Nations Mediator on Palestine by resolution 186 (S-2) of the General Assembly of 14 May 1948;
• To carry out the specific functions and directives given to it by the present resolution and such additional functions and directives as may be given to it by the General Assembly or by the Security Council;
• To undertake, upon the request of the Security Council, any of the functions now assigned to the United Nations Mediator on Palestine or to the United Nations Truce Commission by resolutions of the Security Council; upon such request to the Conciliation Commission by the Security Council with respect to all the remaining functions of the United Nations Mediator on Palestine under Security Council resolutions, the office of the Mediator shall be terminated;

• Decides that a Committee of the Assembly, consisting of China, France, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the United Kingdom and the United States of America, shall present, before the end of the first part of the present session of the General Assembly, for the approval of the Assembly, a proposal concerning the names of the three States which will constitute the Conciliation Commission;
• Requests the Commission to begin its functions at once, with a view to the establishment of contact between the parties themselves and the Commission at the earliest possible date;
• Calls upon the Governments and authorities concerned to extend the scope of the negotiations provided for in the Security Council's resolution of 16 November 1948 and to seek agreement by negotiations conducted either with the Conciliation Commission or directly with a view to the final settlement of all questions outstanding between them;
• Instructs the Conciliation Commission to take steps to assist the Government and authorities concerned to achieve a final settlement of all questions outstanding between them;
• Resolves that the Holy Places—including Nazareth—religious buildings and sites in Palestine should be protected and free access to them assured, in accordance with existing rights and historical practice that arrangements to this end should be under effective United Nations supervision; that the United Nations Conciliation Commission, in presenting to the fourth regular session of the General Assembly its detailed proposal for a permanent international regime for the territory of Jerusalem, should include recommendations concerning the Holy Places in that territory; that with regard to the Holy Places in the rest of Palestine the Commission should call upon the political authorities of the areas concerned to give appropriate formal guarantees as to the protection of the Holy Places and access to them; and that these undertakings should be presented to the General Assembly for approval;
• Resolves that, in view of its association with three world religions, the Jerusalem area, including the present municipality of Jerusalem plus the surrounding villages and towns, the most Eastern of which shall be Abu Dis; the most Southern, Bethlehem; the most Western, Ein Karim (including also the built-up area of Motsa); and the most Northern, Shu'fat, should be accorded special and separate treatment from the rest of Palestine and should be placed under effective United Nations control; Requests the Security Council to take further steps to ensure the demilitarization of Jerusalem at the earliest possible date; Instructs the Conciliation Commission to present to the fourth regular session of the General Assembly detailed proposals for a permanent international regime for the Jerusalem area which will provide for the maximum local autonomy for distinctive groups consistent with the special international status of the Jerusalem area; The Conciliation Commission is authorized to appoint a United Nations representative who shall cooperate with the local authorities with respect to the interim administration of the Jerusalem area;
• Resolves that, pending agreement on more detailed arrangements among the Governments and authorities concerned, the freest possible access to Jerusalem by road, rail or air should be accorded to all inhabitants of Palestine; Instructs the Conciliation Commission to report immediately to the Security Council, for appropriate action by that organ, any attempt by any party to impede such access;
• Instructs the Conciliation Commission to seek arrangements among the Governments and authorities concerned which will facilitate the economic development of the area, including arrangements for access to ports and airfields and the use of transportation and communication facilities;
• Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible; Instructs the Conciliation Commission to facilitate the repatriation, resettlement and economic and social rehabilitation of the refugees and the payment of compensation, and to maintain close relations with the Director of the United Nations Relief for Palestine Refugees and, through him, with the appropriate organs and agencies of the United Nations;
• Authorizes the Conciliation Commission to appoint such subsidiary bodies and to employ such technical experts, acting under its authority, as it may find necessary for the effective discharge of its functions and responsibilities under the present resolution; The Conciliation Commission will have its official headquarters at Jerusalem. The authorities responsible for maintaining order in Jerusalem will be responsible for taking all measures necessary to ensure the security of the Commission. The Secretary-General will provide a limited number of guards for the protection of the staff and premises of the Commission;
• Instructs the Conciliation Commission to render progress reports periodically to the Secretary-General for transmission to the Security Council and to the Members of the United Nations;
• Calls upon all Governments and authorities concerned to cooperate with the Conciliation Commission and to take all possible steps to assist in the implementation of the present resolution;
• Requests the Secretary-General to provide the necessary staff and facilities and to make appropriate arrangements to provide the necessary funds required in carrying out the terms of the present resoluti

The resolution consists of 15 articles, the most quoted of which are:

• Article 7: protection and free access to the Holy Places
• Article 8: demilitarization and UN control over Jerusalem
• Article 9: free access to Jerusalem
• Article 11: calls for the return of refugees

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 273

Having received the report of the Security Council on the application of Israel for membership in the United Nations,1/
Noting that, in the judgment of the Security Council, Israel is a peace-loving State and is able and willing to carry out the obligations contained in the Charter,
Noting that the Security Council has recommended to the general Assembly that it admit Israel to membership in the United Nations,
Noting furthermore the declaration by the State of Israel that it "unreservedly accepts the obligations of the United Nations Charter and undertakes to honour them from the day when it becomes a member of the United Nations", 2/
Recalling its resolutions of 29 November 1947 3/ and 11 December 1948 4/ and taking note of the declarations and explanations made by the representative of the Government of Israel 5/ before the Ad Hoc Political Committee in respect of the implementation of the said resolutions,
The General Assembly,
Acting in discharge of its functions under Article 4 of the Charter and rule 125 of its rules of procedure,
1. Decides that Israel is a peace loving State which accepts the obligations contained in the Charter and is able and willing to carry out those obligations;
2. Decides to admit Israel to membership in the United Nations.

I'm still waiting for the State of Israel to demonstrate it is peace loving.

 

[Goober]

You implied I don't believe Israelis have a right to exist. that's completed invented BS.

You stick to quoting me and I'll stick to quoting you. If you make up crap about me, then I'll make up crap about you. You want a civil debate, then you have to act civil too.

Go thru your Posts Buckey- 95 % plus against Israel- Is that a bias? Many would say so-

 

[CDNBear]

I believe its possible that one day Israelis will toss their war criminals out of office, hold them responsible for the crimes against humanity, and start treating their minorities and Palestinians with dignity and respect...

That would imply that Israel treats minorities within Israel poorly.

This has been proven to be false, time and time again, along with your silly claim that Iran treats minority religions better, lol.

But I cannot support war criminals, oppression and injustice.

Unless committed by Muslims, or yourself. Since you live on contested land.

I cannot support treating Palestinians worse than animals.

Yet you refuse to vacate the stolen land you live on.

I will support Israel when this state demonstrates that it is peace loving and respects fundamental human rights and freedoms.

Cool. So that would be today, since they have the only human rights laws in the region. That are enforced by law.

So good and enticing are these laws, that non Jewish neighbours, are trying to immigrate their.

I'm still waiting for the State of Israel to demonstrate it is peace loving.

I'm still waiting for you to live up to your own standards and demands.

Is that a bias?

Rhetorical, obviously.

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Oh oh, cubbyabfetgoreby got served and can't refute the facts, lol.

 

[taxslave]

Friday July 27, 2012

Israeli settlers seized Palestinian land in several areas around the West Bank on Sunday and Monday. On Sunday, near the village of Yatta south of Hebron, Israeli settlers from the illegal settlement of Susiya seized Palestinian land and placed a power generator there in advance of plans to expand the settlement in the area. This was followed by additional 12 acres of land confiscation in the Jordan Valley and the area south of Bethlehem on Monday.


12acres eh? Little bigger than my back yard. Huge land grab.

 

[earth_as_one]

This Week in Palestine week 26 2012
Friday June 29, 2012

Palestinian medical sources in the Gaza Strip reported that 19 Palestinians were wounded in a series of renewed Israeli air strikes targeting the Gaza Strip. The attacks come after two Palestinians were killed on Friday, and several other residents were wounded. Sources stated that the army began bombarding the as-Saraya Security Compound in the ar-Remal neighborhood of Gaza City at 2am local time. Adham Abu Salmiyya, spokesperson of the Medical and Emergency Services in Gaza said that the 10 of the 19 wounded residents, including one woman, were injured when the army bombarded a center for the Al-Qassam Brigades of Hamas, in the northern part of the Gaza Strip. The recent wave of attacks comes after the army killed two Palestinians on Friday, and wounded several others, in two separate Israeli air strikes targeting Gaza.

Israeli soldiers invaded the town of Beit Ummar, near the southern West Bank city of Hebron, on Sunday at dawn and kidnapped one child. Clashes were reported after the army abducted the child during a search of his home. Local sources reported that soldiers broke into the home of Omar Jobrael as-Sleiby, and kidnapped his son Eyad, 14.Dozens of residents clashed with the soldiers, and hurled stones at them; the army fired concussion grenades and gas bombs. The army went there to invade the home of Ahmad Khalil Abu Hisham and confiscated the ID card of his son Yousef, 20. Yousef is a former political prisoner who was released nearly three months ago.

On Monday June 25 Israeli soldiers demolished several sheds used by Bedouins in Wadi al-Maleh in the northern plains of the West Bank. They confiscated several water tanks used by the residents, in an attempt to force them to relocate and leave the area. Local sources reported the several Israeli military Caterpillar bulldozers removed tents, sheds and tin houses in the area without allowing the residents to remove their belongings from the sheds, and told them that they should leave the area. Furthermore, the soldiers confiscated several water tanks and took them to a nearby military base; the water tanks are used for drinking and for fulfilling the daily needs of the residents. On Sunday, the army handed two residents in al-Aqaba, in the northern plains area, military orders informing them that their homes will be demolished under the pretext of being built “without construction permits”.

Media sources in Jenin, in the northern part of the West Bank, reported that the army invaded the nearby towns of Kufr Ra’ey, Sielet Al-Harithiyya and Al-Yamoun, kidnapped two residents, and interrogated several others. The sources stated that residents Mohammad Jamil Tahaiyna, 22, and Mohammad Barakat Zyoud, 20, were kidnaped and interrogated at a nearby military base for several hours before they were released later on.

Also on Wednesday a Palestinian Man was shot near the Maale Adumim Settlement. Israeli media sources reported that Israeli settlement guards shot and wounded a Palestinian man near Maale Adumim settlement east of Jerusalem Wednesday afternoon. The wounded man, whose name remains unknown, was shot in the stomach and was taken by Israeli ambulance to the hospital for treatment. Israeli police claim the man rammed his car into a police squad car about 100 meters from the guard's booth. The police also said he was shot while trying to take the weapon of one of the guards.

Israeli soldiers conducted military training on Friday at dawn inside the Palestinian village of Al-Aqaba, east of the West Bank city of Tubas, using live ammunition in the village’s streets and neighborhoods. Sami Sadeq, head of the Al-Aqaba village council, reported that dozens of soldiers invaded the village, as part of their military training, and started firing at random using rounds of live ammunition. He added the army previously held several drills in the village, but added that, this time, the army even violated an Israeli court ruling preventing the soldiers from holding military trainings in the village.

One teenager was injured, and many protesters suffered effects of tear gas inhalation when Israeli forces attacked anti wall protests organized in a number of West Bank communities this week. IMEMC’s Ghassan Bannoura with the details.

One teenager was injured and many were treated for the effects of tear gas inhalation at the village of Bil’in, in central West Bank.

Residents and their international and Israeli supporters reached the wall this week but soldiers used tear gas and rubber coated steel bullets against them.

Ahmad Burnat was hit with a rubber-coated steel bullet in his leg while tear gas bombs that landed near trees set fire to a number of olive trees causing damage.

At the nearby Nil’in and Al Nabi Saleh, many protesters were treated for the effects of tear gas inhalation fired by Israeli troops at anti wall protesters on Friday.

Elsewhere in southern West Bank this Friday, Al Ma’sara villagers organized their weekly anti wall and settlements protest. Soldiers forced people back into the village using rifle buts and batons.

 

[CDNBear]

Hypocrite, spamming is against the forums rules...

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And of course, since your goal is the demonization and delegitimization of Israel...

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[Goober]

This Week in Palestine week 26 2012
Friday June 29, 2012.

As I told you- I reported the post- Now you still have the opportunity to retract and apologize.

 

[earth_as_one]

Please keep this thread on topic. The Jewish MP described Israelis as acting like Nazis in Gaza. I'm not sure I'd go that far, but people can judge for themselves how the Israelis are behaving. Here is some more news that didn't make our news:

Welcome to this Week in Palestine, a service of the International Middle East Media Center, IMEMC News - International Middle East Media Center, for June 15th to 22nd 2012

Israeli settler attacks continued during the week. Israeli settlers vandalize a mosque in Jaba’ village in the West Bank, meanwhile, A new wave of violence rocks the Gaaza Strip during which three Palestinian civilians killed and 12 others injured, the details and more in the following report

The Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs in the occupied Palestinian territory, OCHAoPt issued its Protection of Civilians weekly report.

According to the report, Israeli settlers set fire to a mosque in Jaba’ village, near Jerusalem and sprayed “price tag” graffiti on its walls, causing some damage to the mosque’s walls and carpet.

This incident, which has the potential to trigger further violence, comes in the context of the so-called ‘price tag’ strategy, by which settlers attack Palestinian property, and in some cases also Israeli military facilities, in an attempt to deter the Israeli authorities from removing unauthorized settlement outposts.

A total of 12 mosques have been vandalized by settlers since 2011. While the Israeli authorities indicated that they have opened an investigation into this week’s attack, according to Israeli media reports none of the previous incidents have resulted in the prosecution of suspects. Also this week, an Israeli settler threw a stone at a Palestinian in Huwwara village (Nablus), injuring him. Reports from the same village also indicate that settlers set 50 dunums of land on fire, damaging 250 olive and almond trees. Additionally, settlers threw stones and rubbish in a cistern belonging to At Tuwani village in Hebron.

On 17 June, an Israeli truck driver from southern Israel shot and killed two Palestinians (aged 32 and 35), south of As Samu' village in the Hebron district; the driver was reportedly injured during the incident. According to the Israeli media, this event took place in the context of a confrontation between the Palestinians killed and the driver, when the Palestinian attempted to steal the truck. The Israeli and Palestinian authorities indicate that the incident was criminal in nature.

This week, the Israeli authorities demolished 14 residences and nine animal shacks, two storage rooms and two latrines in a Bedouin community in Al Hirma area, near the Area C village of Obeidiya near Bethlehem, due to the lack of Israeli-issued building permits. Consequently, 64 people, including 37 children, were displaced and the livelihoods of nine families were affected.

In addition, a house and two animal shelters were demolished by their owners in the Area C sections of Kafr Qaddum near Qalqiliya and Beit Iksa near Jerusalem respectively, after receiving demolition orders from the Israeli authorities. Since the beginning of 2012, seven structures have been demolished in the same context.

This week, there was a significant escalation in violence, resulting in casualties, including the first civilian fatalities since 30 March this year, and damage to property in Gaza and southern Israel. This wave of violence, , follows three months of relative calm.

On 17 June, Israeli airstrikes targeted a metal workshop in Rafah city and a military training base in Gaza City. As a result, five Palestinian civilians were injured and a number of houses, as well as two workshops, sustained damage. No injuries or damage to property was recorded as a result of the firing of projectiles by Palestinian armed groups. Two farmers were also injured by Israeli troops near the fence separating Israel and the Gaza Strip during an Israeli incursion into Gaza.

Also this week, two separate Israeli air strikes targeted armed Palestinians in areas located some 1 -1.5 kilometeres from the fence separating Israel and the Gaza Strip, in the Beit Hanoun area, killing four of them and injuring another one. Two other air strikes were launched on 19 June in the middle area and the Az Zeitoun area in Gaza City, injuring three Palestinian men, including one civilian.

The same day, Palestinian factions homemade shells firing, hitting open areas inside Ashkelon City in southern Israel and injuring four Israeli border policemen. Also. in two incidents on 18 and 19 June, an 18-month-old Palestinian baby was killed and four other children, aged between 3 and 12 were injured when Palestinian rockets fell short inside Gaza and hit two houses in the Beit Hanoun and Az Zeitoun areas.

Also on 19 June, Israeli forces patrolling the fence opened fire on three civilian men, killing two and injuring another one.

Tension escalates in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, meanwhile Palestinians express caution regarding Israeli foreign Minister remarks on Abbas, these stories and more, coming up, stay tuned.

The Nonviolence Report:

Many protesters surfed effects of tear gas inhalation when Israeli forces cracked-down on anti wall protests organized in central and southern West Bank this week. IMEMC’s Ghassan Bannoura with the details.

In central West Bank on Friday anti wall protests were organized at the villages of al Nabi Saleh, Bil’in and Nil’in. in the villages of al Nabi Saleh the protest their started after midday prayers then people marched to lands taken by Israel to build a new settlement and part of the wall on.

Israeli troops stopped people at the village entrance and attacked them with tear gas. Later soldiers invaded the al Nabi Saleh and fired tear gas and chemical water into residents’ homes. Many residents surfed effects of tear gas inhalation, manly women and children.

Meanwhile in the nearby villages of Bil’in and Nil’in villagers’ also central West Bank, anti wall protesters were met by tear gas and rubber-coated steel bullets by Israeli soldiers. one residents was injured by rubber-coated steel bullets in Bil’in and many were treated for the effects of tear gas inhalation at the two villages.

In southern West Bank this Friday, Al Ma’sara villagers and the village of Sousia organized anti wall and settlements protest. In Al Ma’sara Soldiers forced people back into the village. No injuries were reported.

While in Sousia, villagers and their international and Israeli supporters were met with tear gas by Israeli soldiers. Local sources said that many surfed effects of tear gas inhalation. This week the Israeli army gave 58 home-demolition orders to families from Sousia to make way for new Israeli settlements in the area.

Go thru your Posts Buckey- 95 % plus against Israel- Is that a bias? Many would say so-

Go thru our news and see how many of the above killings, home demolitions, land expropriations, kidnappings... made the news. But a Palestinian war criminal fires a rocket at a bus killing an Israeli kid and its headlines.

For the record, I don't support either side's war criminals. But I do support people knowing more than just the Israeli version of events. I won't feel a need to fill in the missing information if our news reports the violent incidents by both sides. If our news starts reporting only the Palestinian version of events, I'll report the missing Israeli version of events.

 

[Goober]

Please keep this thread on topic. The Jewish MP described Israelis as acting like Nazis in Gaza. I'm not sure I'd go that far, but people can judge for themselves how the Israelis are behaving. Here is some more news that didn't make our news:

Not sure you would go that far- again you hang yourself with bias- again you display your ignorance of history-
Perhaps taking time to educate yourself on Hitler and the genocide- perhaps it would all be a waste of time as your opinion and bias is set in stone.

 

[earth_as_one]

I have never claimed that Israel has a policy of genocide. But some things, some members of the Israeli military forces do to Palestianians and official Israeli policies are "reminiscent" of Nazi behavior regarding arrest, detaining people without charges, abductions, kidnapping, torture, assassinations of political and religious leaders, creating ghettos or concentration camps for undesirables, race based hatred and discrimination, ethnic cleansing and so on....

While I don't completely agree with the British Jewish MP referenced in the OP, I understand his points.


Meanwhile an update on the news which doesn't make our news regarding this conflict:

This Week in Palestine
week 31
Saturday August 06, 2012

The Palestinian Center for Human Rights reports that from July 28th to August 3rd, Israeli forces killed two Palestinian civilians and wounded 4 others, including two children, in the West Bank, and conducted 44 incursions into Palestinian communities in the West Bank.

In a major incident on Monday, Israeli forces moved into Qalandya refugee camp, south of Ramallah. In response to a group of boys throwing stones, the Israeli soldiers fired tear gas canisters and sound bombs, and brought backup. They raided a house belonging to Mohammed Sa’id Zayed.

Later, a vehicle carrying 5 Palestinian civilians arrived in the area. Israeli soldiers opened fire on them when they attempted to flee. As a result, ‘Ali Khalifa died from a bullet wound to his abdomen and Ma’moun ‘Awad was wounded by a bullet to the right shoulder. Also, local resident Mo’tassem ‘Edwan was killed by a head shot when he stepped out of his home. Before their withdrawal from the camp, Israeli forces abducted 3 Palestinian civilians, including two children.

Also this week, a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council, Khaled Abu Tous was kidnapped from his home near Tubas at 2:00 in the morning by Israeli soldiers.
Earlier this week, a group of fundamentalist Israeli settlers set ablaze 150 Dunams of farmlands that belong to residents of Ein Jaloud village, near the northern West Bank city of Nablus. Residents report frequent settlers attacks and harassment.

And in what appears to be a response to the ongoing housing crisis in the State of Israel, the Israeli government has given final approval to build 930 additional housing units in the illegal settlement of Har Homa. The expansion will see the illegal settlement extend to a third hill.

Gaza
In Gaza, a Palestinian civilian was wounded when Israeli soldiers stationed at the border between the Gaza Strip and Israel opened fire at a number of Palestinian civilians who were collecting straw.

In a significant increase of violence, there were a number of rockets fired from Gaza and even more Israeli airstrikes in response beginning with the Israeli bombardment of a tunnel at the Egyptian border in the southern Gaza Strip, and a training site in the north. No casualties were reported from that incident.

Later in the week, however, the Israeli air force dropped two bombs on Gaza City, claiming that two shells had landed in the desert in southern Israel fired from somewhere inside Gaza. According to local sources, the airstrikes hit a beachfront facility used by the armed wing of the Hamas party, and a training camp used by the same group.

Late Thursday night Israel fired rockets of its own into Gaza in response to a rocket fired from Gaza. The attack wounded two Palestinians. Then, early Friday morning, Israeli gunships bombed five targets in the Gaza Strip wounding five civilians. One Israeli was lightly injured from the Palestinian rockets.

Nonviolence

Friday protests took place in the central West Bank villages of al-Nabi Saleh, Bil’in, and Nil’in in addition to al-Ma’ssara in the southern West Bank.

Local and international protesters were tear gassed today as they marched in the West Bank village of Nabi Saleh. Unlike other recent protests in the village, Israeli soldiers did not meet the protesters in the village but along a road leading out of the town.

After the march Israeli soldiers entered the village and threw a tear gas canister into a house where protesters had gathered. As protesters escaped the house, more tear gas was shot into the streets. In recent weeks Israeli soldiers have stepped-up their efforts in Nabi Saleh, declaring the village a closed military zone and stopping activists and journalists before even reaching the village.

In Bil’in village also central West Bank, dozens of Palestinian villagers in addition to Israeli and International peace activists marched after the Friday prayers from the mosque to the lands confiscated by Israel to build the wall.

A tractor carrying chairs and trash cans drove in front of the marchers who were heading to Abu Laimun's family land in order to turn in into a public park for the village. However troops showered them to tear gas and rubber coated steel bullets in addition to some smelly chemical material. Dozens suffered from tear-gas inhalation and were treated by field medics.

This week people in Bil’in marched in support of the Palestinian state bid at the UN in September troops used tear gas and rubber coated steel bullets also to suppress the anti wall protest in the nearby village of Nil’in. Villagers were joined by Israeli and international supporters after the midday prayers and marched up to the wall.

Troops fired tear gas at protesters causing many to suffer from tear gas inhalation. In southern West Bank, many treated for the effects of tear gas inhalation as troops attacked the anti-wall protest organized in al-Ma’sara village near Bethlehem. Soldiers attacked protesters as they tried to reach land owned by local farmers Israel took for the wall.

This Week in Palestine week 31 2011 - International Middle East Media Center

 

[Goober]

I have never claimed that Israel has a policy of genocide. But some things, some members of the Israeli military forces do to Palestianians and official Israeli policies are "reminiscent" of Nazi behavior regarding arrest, detaining people without charges, torture, assassinations of political and religious leaders, creating ghettos or concentration camps for undesirables, race based hatred and discrimination. So while I disagree with the British Jewish MP, I understand his points.

Please keep this thread on topic. The Jewish MP described Israelis as acting like Nazis in Gaza. I'm not sure I'd go that far, but people can judge for themselves how the Israelis are behaving. Here is some more news that didn't make our news:

How far would you go then. You cannot even make up your mind on the Right of Israel to be a State- That was guaranteed and implemented by the UN. Israel did not attack the Arabs. But they kicked ass. A Soldier is highly motivated when they realize that mass slaughter would be the result of losing single battles and the War of Independence.
How do you think the Arabs would have treated Jews if the Arabs had won the War. I would be interested to hear what you think would happen if they had won.

 

[lone wolf]

Is abducted the same as arrested?

 

[taxslave]

Palestinian Center for Human Rights. Now there is an oxymoron.

 

[earth_as_one]

Is abducted the same as arrested?

If you are arrested you would be charged with something. But if you are never charged and held in a torture chamber for years because the government doesn't agree with you politics, than that would be an abduction. When the IDF abducts children of people of interest in order to blackmail the person of interest into turning themselves in, that would be a kidnapping. I'm not sure what you call it when the IDF puts a kidnapped child in a prison cell with a group of hardened criminals where he could be sexually abused.

How far would you go then. You cannot even make up your mind on the Right of Israel to be a State- That was guaranteed and implemented by the UN. Israel did not attack the Arabs. But they kicked ass. A Soldier is highly motivated when they realize that mass slaughter would be the result of losing single battles and the War of Independence.
How do you think the Arabs would have treated Jews if the Arabs had won the War. I would be interested to hear what you think would happen if they had won.

I have no problems recognizing Israel as a state if and when they ever meet the agreed conditions for UN recognition. For example, Israel agreed to allow Palestinians who lost their homes to either return home or recieve compensation for their property losses. Read the other conditions in the UN resolutions regarding Israel's admission into the UN.... Israel still hasn't kept their word in most cases.

 

[lone wolf]

If you are arrested you would be charged with something. But if you are never charged and held in a torture chamber for years because the government doesn't agree with you politics, than that would be an abduction. When the IDF abducts children of people of interest in order to blackmail the person of interest into turning themselves in, that would be a kidnapping. I'm not sure what you call it when the IDF puts a kidnapped child in a prison cell with a group of hardened criminals where he could be sexually abused.

Note the word IF....

I don't believe a word that comes from the Muddled East. It's all subject to the tools of propaganda

 

[CDNBear]

Please keep this thread on topic.

OK, you already stated that you living on contested land, stolen by fraud from First Nations is on topic.

So why won't you answer the question, when are you leaving?

Why do you ignore the question repeatedly?

Are you aware that you expose the fact that you are a blatant hypocrite?

I have never claimed that Israel has a policy of genocide. But some things, some members of the Israeli military forces do to Palestianians and official Israeli policies are "reminiscent" of Nazi behavior regarding arrest, detaining people without charges, abductions, kidnapping, torture, assassinations of political and religious leaders, creating ghettos or concentration camps for undesirables, race based hatred and discrimination, ethnic cleansing and so on....

I love it when you contradict yourself and admit you have claimed that Israel has a policy of genocide, lol.

 

[Goober]

I have no problems recognizing Israel as a state if and when they ever meet the agreed conditions for UN recognition. For example, Israel agreed to allow Palestinians who lost their homes to either return home or recieve compensation for their property losses. Read the other conditions in the UN resolutions regarding Israel's admission into the UN.... Israel still hasn't kept their word in most cases.

Israel is recognized by the UN-
Do you have a link where Israel agreed to this.