Israeli Planes Attack Gaza Targets
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This has gone on for decades, and will continue to do so for some time to come.
As for wanting a homeland for the Palestinians, the Arab States do not want a
homeland for these people. The Arab neighbours want the Palestinians to be
kept in misery so they can speak for them and tell the world how bad Israel is.
If Palestine gets a homeland and lives next door in peach with Israel, it would
destroy the optics of the whole situation.
As for wanting a homeland for the Palestinians, the Arab States do not want a
homeland for these people. The Arab neighbours want the Palestinians to be
kept in misery so they can speak for them and tell the world how bad Israel is.
If Palestine gets a homeland and lives next door in peach with Israel, it would
destroy the optics of the whole situation.
Can you show me any clinical study that supports giving a loaded and cocked weapon to somebody, who has been under perpetual persecution for eons, and not expect some innocents to get needlessly killed.
You mean as in Columbine and elsewhere, where the abused becomes the abuser. Of, course, it should be the contrary; the previously abused should eschew violence.
Ultimately they are victims of their own states occupation and genocide of Palestine.
Or unless they are attacked on a regular basis including killed in other countries. Don;t see Israel taking out civilians in say Buenos Aires.
But you do see Fanatical Muslim Terror Groups doing this. Oh yes and also killing their own citizens as well and I refer to Iran murdering Iranian dissenters in Germany as well as other countries.
How can you type with that jacket on. Must have one long pointy nose. Has to be that.
They still don't know who committed the attacks in Buenos Aires, Hezbollah is suspected but not nothing has been confirmed.
Iran was in talks with Argentina on the topic of nuclear cooperation during the time of the attack, so I'm not sure what legitimate reason Iran would have for their involvement in the bombing.
Personally, I tire of the constant bickering on all sides - each with a holier-than-thou attitude - with a failure to admit to excesses and a refusal to place the conflict in an historical and geopolitical context. But, I guess, fun is fun.
"If they (Jews) all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide."
Hassan Nasrallah Daily Star, Oct. 23, 2002
You DO know who Nasrallah is, do you not??
Every time I accidentally wander into these types of arguments, I feel like I need to have a shower right away. If this was real life, instead of a virtual one, these forums would be awash in blood. No wonder there is no peace in this world. It is inhabited by lunatics.
And you know, as well as everyone else, why he would say such a nasty thing. If people would stop pissing in each others corn flakes we could all eat our cereal in peace.
Badih Chayban in his October 23, 2002 article in The Daily Star, wrote that Nasrallah said, "If they [the Jews] all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide." Charles Glass believes that the quotation was likely a fabrication, citing other published accounts of Nasrallah's speech that had no reference to the anti-Semitic comment, and statements by the editor-in-chief of the Lebanese newspaper which published the quotes, that questioned both the translation and the "agenda of the translator."[40] Glass also wrote that a Hezbollah spokeswoman, Wafa Hoteit, denied that Nasrallah made the statement.[40]
Here is an actual quote
On November 30, 2009, while reading the party's new political manifesto, Hasan Nasrallah declared "Our problem with [the Israelis] is not that they are Jews, but that they are occupiers who are raping our land and holy places."[32]
You should try and stay updated.
1994 AMIA bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
On October 25, 2006, Argentine prosecutors Alberto Nisman and Marcelo Martínez Burgos formally accused the government of Iran of directing the bombing, and the Hezbollah militia of carrying it out.[6][7] According to the prosecution's claims in 2006, Argentina had been targeted by Iran after Buenos Aires' decision to suspend a nuclear technology transfer contract to Tehran.[8] This however, has been disputed, because this contract was never terminated, and Iran and Argentina were negotiating on restoration of full cooperation on all agreements from early 1992 till 1994, when the bombing occurred.[9]
BBC News - Iran 'to co-operate' over Argentina Jewish centre bomb
Argentina has issued arrest warrants for several Iranian nationals and a Lebanese national in connection with the bombing.
One of those wanted is Iranian Defence Minister Gen Ahmad Vahidi.
At the time of the attack, Gen Vahidi was the commander of a special unit of Iran's Revolutionary Guard known as the Quds Force.
Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner has repeatedly demanded the extradition of Gen Vahidi and the other Iranian officials accused of involvement in the attack.
Homeland for Palestinians? Where? Israel has taken most of where these people used to live. How about near Colpy? We can even arm them. We solved a previous refugee problem that way. It would probably work again.
Regarding responsibility. Can you seriously defend imposing on Arab nations and Palestinians the full WW II European Jewish refugee burden created by a UN decision over the objections of most people living in the area? Doesn't Israel have any responsibility for their actions? Do the nations which voted to Partition Palestine triggering the 1947 ethnic cleansing war and later to recognize Israel have any responsibility for the consequences of their actions?
Explain why the full burden for creating Israel must lay on the Arab states who declared war after UN voted to partition this area and then recognize one side of an ethnic cleansing war? Massacres like Deir Yassin triggered the 1948 war. Notice the timeline...
April 9, 1948
Deir Yassin massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The war commenced after the termination of the British Mandate for Palestine and the creation of an independent Israel at midnight on 14 May 1948
...the Deir Yassin massacre is considered to have generated more panic among the Arab population than all other previous operations together and to have caused a mass flight of Palestinians in numerous areas...
Both sides committed atrocities. IMO, Deir Yassin pretty much sums up how Zionism created the Palestinian refugee problem.
I could support Zionism... If it was voluntary. The amount of money spent for arms to cleanse Palestine of Palestinians could have bought Palestine many times over. This area should be the world's greatest tourist destination. Instead the people living in the region seem determined to turn the area into mostly radioactive craters.
Freedom and justice lead to peace. Oppression and injustice lead to violence.
Israeli Demolition Campaign in Three Towns Across the West Bank
14th April 2010
House demolished by Israeli bulldozers in the village of Al-Khader, near Bethlehem. [MaanImages/Luay Sababa]
In an aggravation of Israeli policy of home demolitions, a house and two shops were razed in the Central West Bank village of Hares this morning. An additional house was reduced to rubble in the village of alKhadder, west of Bethlehem and a 1,000 square meters factory was demolished in the town Beit Sahour. In what seems a coordinated move, Israeli forces carried out demolitions in two different areas of the West Bank today, rendering at least 16 people homeless.
You mean like this?
"raping".? Citizen rights to the place you were born should be a fundamental human right.
Nasrallah is a dangerous war criminal. Firing rockets at cities is a war crime. I support this kind of resistance:
Bil’in is a Palestinian village that is struggling to exist. It is fighting to safeguard its land, its olive trees, its resources… its liberty.
By annexing close to 60% of Bil’in land for Israeli settlements and the construction of Israel’s separation wall, the state of Israel is strangling the village. Every day it destroys a bit more, creating an open air prison for Bil’in’s inhabitants.
Supported by Israeli and international activists, Bil’in residents peacefully demonstrate every Friday in front of the “work-site of shame”. And every Friday the Israeli army responds with violence, both physically and psychologically.
Bil’in residents have continued to withstand these injustices despite the frequent night raids of Israeli soldiers in the town followed by an increasing number of arrests of inhabitants and of activists.
Most people in Lebanon, Israel and Palestine want to live in peace. I disagree with Nasrallah's advocacy of violence.
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EAO - They were Terrorists and as such they went boom. Legal target - Not like the 3 Isreali tourists they murdered.
Myself I at times prefer to set aside a bogus claim of a Slam Dunk and I then go for the kill. Double Tap of course.
Oman Tribune - the edge of knowledge
Hundreds of Palestinians crowded around the charred remains of the car, which was hit in the bright afternoon sunshine on a main urban thoroughfare.
Hamas security officials confirmed that Batsh was killed in the attack, along with a second man, Sobhi Al Batsh, a member of Hamas’s armed wing, the Ezzedine Al Qassam Brigades.
Essam was a member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, an offshoot of Abbas’s Fatah movement, group officials
said. The Islamist group Hamas said Sobhi was affiliated with its own armed wing.
This however, has been disputed, because this contract was never terminated, and Iran and Argentina were negotiating on restoration of full cooperation on all agreements from early 1992 till 1994, when the bombing occurred.[9]
How does this dispute anything I was saying? It's still accusations and issuing arrest warrants isn't being convicted. Your article is about how Iran will co-operate with Argentina to find out the real perpetrators behind the attack.
Really, wonder why Iran would not allow their Murderers to face trial in a democracy. Guess they are deathly afraid of that greatest of Satan, Democracy.