Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

[MHz]

Let me guess, you think there's more conspiracy at foot?

I just like sound with the video, the IDF footage is missing that aspect.

 

[CDNBear]

I just like sound with the video, the IDF footage is missing that aspect.

I bet your favourite books have popups too.

Care to explain what laws have been broken yet?

 

[selin]

Turkey should have been more careful about its aid-convoys, one of them was out of control and that caused a chaos which is expected madly. and Israel should have behaved more logically , good trick for the two.

 

[CDNBear]

Funny, if you read ALL the news reports on this, there's so much spin, the truth is almost lost.



First of all, the organizers were repeatedly warned that the ships would be stopped and inspected.

They chose to ignore the early warnings, before the ships even set sail.

They were hailed and told to stop and prepare to be boarded.

They refused.

Then they were boarded by force, where the Israeli Navy was met with axes, pipes and limited gun fire.

They responded likewise.

The Israeli's have impounded the ships, and detained the passengers for deportation. They have also stated that the aid will be allowed to go on, once the ships are searched for weapons and munitions.

Had the organizers and their supporters not tried to be dicks, this could have easily been avoided. But since the organizers only recognize and condemn the Israeli blockade, while ignoring the blockade by Egypt, it's safe to say that this is simply an antagonist move. Supported by morons and defended by like minded idiots.

But I fully suspect that this will be lost on so many here and around the world.

I would love for the coward that offered this, attached to red rep, (-cruel of you on Jun 1st, 2010), to explain how that post was cruel.

I smell an ideological moron, that hasn't enough guts to sign their rep.

I'd love to hang around and wait and see if you do have any guts, I doubt it though. Besides that, I have a ton of fish to fillet.

 

[Colpy]

I would love for the coward that offered this, attached to red rep, (-cruel of you on Jun 1st, 2010), to explain how that post was cruel.

I smell an ideological moron, that hasn't enough guts to sign their rep.

Funny, I got the exact same rep....unsigned, of course...

 

[MHz]

I bet your favourite books have popups too.

Care to explain what laws have been broken yet?

I only purchase the ones that have a built-in popup blocker.

 

[CDNBear]

Funny, I got the exact same rep....unsigned, of course...

:lol:

 

[MHz]

Funny, I got the exact same rep....unsigned, of course...

Can't have that just because you have a certain view, I don't have any reason other than that for giving you two a greeni.

 

[Just the Facts]

Like that American Christian that blew up a bulding in OK City? Nice fellow he was. Clean cut good christian boy who loved his country.

lol What would you guys do without your 1 go-to guy! :lol:

He wasn't even Christian....but lets play along...he was condemned by Christians, arrested by Christians, tried by Christains, and executed by Christians.

Where's Bin Laden?

 

[lone wolf]

They already knew that Colpy, they can't counter it with reality so they have to pretend that you were talking about something else.

I thought you knew that already. ;-)

Swallow all the Izzy shyte you want. They tell me propaganda tastes a little better with a bit of salt water.

Personally, I believe the whole Muddled east should be blockaded, cut off aid and left on their own.

 

[MHz]

Of course not, because you can't cite law, case law or specific acts/events.

Follow the crumb trails to what this person is referencing.

U.N. Human Rights Chief: Israel's Blockade of Gaza Strip Is Illegal

Friday, August 14, 2009

 

[darkbeaver]

Okay: Lone Wolf, Dark Beaver, Selin, et al......

I am NOT talking about anti-piracy operations when I speak of Canadians boarding merchant vessels on the high seas.

Straight from the Canadian Navy website:

Operation Apollo
When: October 2, 2001-December 15, 2003 [HMCS Halifax was the first to deploy October 8, 2001 and Calgary the last, leaving June 15, 03 and returning December 15, 2003]
Where in World: Arabian Sea, Arabian Gulf Region, Northern Indian Ocean, Afghanistan
Who: 3rd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (3 PPCLI) Battle Group, Canadian Naval Task Group [a commander with three or four warships under his command, plus a supply ship and Sea King helicopters], Long-Range Patrol Detachment comprising two CP-140 Aurora maritime patrol and surveillance aircraft, and a Tactical Airlift Detachment comprising three CC-130 Hercules transport aircraft. This resulted in a total of 4,000 sailors deployed for six months on 16 out of the Navy’s 18 major warships, some returning twice.
What: An immediate response to the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, Op APOLLO was our contribution to the war on terror. While in concert, Canadians ships hailed and boarded suspicious vessels, becoming one of the world’s leading navies in boarding party tactics. The Operations following the end of Op Apollo have been the land-based Operations Archer and the naval operation, Altair.

Operation Altair
When: January 2004 to present. HMCS Toronto was the first to deploy, from January to July 2004
Where in the World: Persian (Arabian) Gulf
Who: 247 personnel serving in HMC Ships Toronto and Winnipeg.
What: Operation ALTAIRis the Canadian Forces maritime contribution to the U.S.-led coalition campaign against terrorism known as Operation ENDURING FREEDOM(OEF). Operation ALTAIRcomprises single ship deployments. It picks up where Operation APOLLO left off, though in a smaller format.


Canadian Navy: Operations & Exercises

EXACTLY what the Israelis were doing........

The Israeli blockade is illegal, the relief ships were in international waters. The ships were boarded illegally. No question about it. Canadians are not like Israeli criminals, this is not about what any other nation does in any other action in any other theatre, this is specifically about a crimes committed by Israeli vessels illegally in international waters. Israel is trying to hide its crimes behind the international reputations of other nations including Canada. Canada was not involved in the Israeli raid despite what Colpy said. Just in case some readers may be mislead by the intentional muddying of Israels sole responsibility for this horrific and blatant in our face Israeli crime.

 

[Colpy]

The Israeli blockade is illegal, the relief ships were in international waters. The ships were boarded illegally. No question about it. Canadians are not like Israeli criminals, this is not about what any other nation does in any other action in any other theatre, this is specifically about a crimes committed by Israeli vessels illegally in international waters. Israel is trying to hide its crimes behind the international reputations of other nations including Canada. Canada was not involved in the Israeli raid despite what Colpy said. Just in case some readers may be mislead by the intentional muddying of Israels sole responsibility for this horrific and blatant in our face Israeli crime.

.....the operations were EXACTLY the same, but NOT the same operation....:lol::lol:

 

[MHz]

The Israeli blockade is illegal, the relief ships were in international waters. The ships were boarded illegally. No question about it. Canadians are not like Israeli criminals, this is not about what any other nation does in any other action in any other theatre, this is specifically about a crimes committed by Israeli vessels illegally in international waters. Israel is trying to hide its crimes behind the international reputations of other nations including Canada. Canada was not involved in the Israeli raid despite what Colpy said. Just in case some readers may be mislead by the intentional muddying of Israels sole responsibility for this horrific and blatant in our face Israeli crime.

As a matter of fact his departure from Canada was supposed to be to the US, perhaps it was our border patrol that sent him straight back to Israel instead.
What are the odds, quite some years since their PM visits us and he leaves probably just as upset with us (as a people and a country. Any idea what the protests were back in '94 or '96 (the correct year I believe).

EXACTLY the same, but NOT the same

A hold back from the acid daze of your youth, the high that keeps on giving. Invest your worldly goods into making posters and t-shirts of that very expression, you will become a household name, of that I'm quite sure.
Did you know Zombies don't like fast food?

 

[darkbeaver]

Snub out the joint, DB, and try to focus....the operations were EXACTLY the same, but NOT the same operation....:lol::lol:

Israel will be judged on what they did not on what someone else may or may not be doing. Try to concentrate on the topic of this thread. Oh by the way if the operations were exactly the same they would be the same operations, these were separate operations, not even remotely connected. You do not know what the word exactly means.

 

[Just the Facts]

If the U.S. made its military aid contingent on allowing a sovereign Palestinian homeland, including ceding the West Bank totally to Palestinian control, it would likely be able to live in relative peace.

lol yeah right. Palestinians were totally in control of the West Bank from 1948 to 1967. No peace. The Palestinians had a soverign state dropped in their lap in 1947, they didn't want it, they preferred to kill Jews.

Israel has been punishing Gaza for electing Hamas by allowing in at most a quarter of the aid it requires to sustain its population since its blockade began. Desperate people, persecuted people, resort to desperate measures.

Where desperate people go to "get away from it all".

YouTube - Roots Club

 

[MHz]

lol yeah right. Palestinians were totally in control of the West Bank from 1948 to 1967. No peace. The Palestinians had a soverign state dropped in their lap in 1947, they didn't want it, they preferred to kill Jews.

Between Nov of '47 and Nov of '48 almost 700 Arabs were killed or beaten and chased from their home. Part of a peace deal (as dictated solely by Israel) meant no right to return without certain concessions, the UN should have been there enforcing their UN Resolution 181, oh yeah, the US kept rejecting any/all condemnations of Israel yet they will label an elected body as being a terrorist entity.

 

[darkbeaver]

They cannot stick to the topic and prevail in the discussion at hand so they will harken back to other times and point at other actions and dismiss all and any reason and logic. This is reason in part that they are now known as "the state of lunatics".

 

[Just the Facts]

Canadians are acting in a sanctioned action against pirates. When did it become illegal to give and transport aid?

It's not, but you go through the proper channels. Israel offered to allow the aid through, they just reserved the right to inspect it first in Ashdod. A truly humanitarian mission would have had no problem with that. In fact, even the organizers are not calling this a humanitarian mission, they're not shy to admit it was intended to break the blockade. Only the useful idiots are calling it a humanitarian mission.

 

[darkbeaver]

Eyewitnesses recount Israel flotilla raid

An Israeli Parliamentarian speaks out.

Hanin Zoabi, a member of the Israeli parliament, was on board the Miva Marmara, the ship that was the scene of a confrontation between activists and Israeli soldiers. That clash left at least nine people dead.
The Israeli Navy fired on the ships five minutes before commandos descended from ropes that dangled from helicopters, Zoabi said during a press conference in Nazareth, Israel. She said passengers on board the ship were unarmed.