Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

[darkbeaver]

Colpy wants you to believe that Canadians would have attacked an unarmed relief vessel full of humanitarian aid in international waters. He equates our anti-piracy actions in the gulf directly with the dispicable Israeli attack. He is in essence saying that they are us and that we are them. Canadians are not Zionist Israeli criminals.

 

[captain morgan]

That was part of the job of the UN, every time they tried to implement something the US vetoed the resolution.

Is that the same UN group that condemn the barrage of missiles from Palestine into Israel?

Are those Ninja throwing stars or CDs? I assume the rusty pliers were there to promote blood poisoning after breaking the flesh in some fashion.

Yep, those would be CD's... Right beside the machetes, various knives and clubs. But yes, they appear to be CDs

 

[ironsides]

Are those Ninja throwing stars or CD's? I assume the rusty pliers were there to promote blood poisoning after breaking the flesh in some fashion.

Anything can be used as a weapon, you should know that.

 

[darkbeaver]

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The Lone Ship of the Freedom Flotilla: The Rachel Corrie MV Continues to Sail Towards Gaza in Defiance of Israeli Threats - by Michel Chossudovsky - 2010-06-01
In an act of tremendous courage, the Rachel Corrie MV is determined to break the Israeli blockade of Gaza

 

[relic]

Wasn't there some other group that was looking fo "living space",and stopped ships from bringing supplies to the "enemy"?

 

[selin]

Colpy wants you to believe that Canadians would have attacked an unarmed relief vessel full of humanitarian aid in international waters. He equates our anti-piracy actions in the gulf directly with the dispicable Israeli attack. He is in essence saying that they are us and that we are them. Canadians are not Zionist Israeli criminals.

thank you , or the majority would make me believe in that.

Anything can be used as a weapon, you should know that.

if it really sounds sensible to you, then i will begin to think you are a robot set up to say "ırr , everybody is enemy, kill everybody- everybody is enemy, kill everybody-everyb.." (every woman has a tweezer. be careful )

 

[ironsides]

Canadian Navy would have done what ever they were told to do. If they were told to stop the ship, it would be stopped. If the passengers were stupid enough to offer resistance then the would be responsible for what ever happened.

Wasn't there some other group that was looking fo "living space",and stopped ships from bringing supplies to the "enemy"?

British used to do that

if it really sounds sensible to you, then i will begin to think you are a robot set up to say "ırr , everybody is enemy, kill everybody- everybody is enemy, kill everybody-everyb.." (every woman has a tweezer. be careful )

Just answering a question that was asked. Everything in that picture can be used as a weapon. (message #168

 

[MHz]

Is that the same UN group that condemn the barrage of missiles from Palestine into Israel?

Which specific UN Resolution was that and who the heck would veto it?

 

[ironsides]

Israel, Palestine, and the United Nations

Israel, Palestine, and the United Nations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[captain morgan]

Which specific UN Resolution was that and who the heck would veto it?

Resolution 9-G212K

 

[ironsides]

Which specific UN Resolution was that and who the heck would veto it?

oops

 

[CDNBear]

Any chance in getting the audio in the choppers for the 30 minutes prior to the boarding?

Let me guess, you think there's more conspiracy at foot?

That occured in the International Seas.

So?

Secondly, There weren't any weapons except aids but aids for Palestine mean to Israel as weapons already.

And how were they suppused to know that if they can't inspect the load?

Bear and you are the same staff,
dog doesn't bite dog...

I'm in good company then.

When you come back take up the reply here, the book the IDF dropped on who was to be whatever the book says. spared or killed probably.

Probably? :lol:

I love the shyte you'll all swallow.

The fact that this had occurred in international waters means essentially that it was outside of Israel's jurisdiction.

Wrong. Please cite the law that makes your claim so.

Who is Israel to dictate what goes on off its soil?

They are in a defacto state of war with the Gov't of Gaza.

Aye Aye Cap'n Bligh. International waters are international waters where pirates are pirates. It doesn't matter what sort of fan club they have.

True, which is why Israel is righteous in this case. Albeit they should have executed the plan better, but I fully believe that nothing would have changed the minds of some people around here.

They were also Turkish flagged - an Israeli friend.

So what?

Canadians are acting in a sanctioned action against pirates. When did it become illegal to give and transport aid?

It isn't, it is however Israel's righ to protect herself. Her Arab neighbours did the very same thing in the Suez, years ago. All of a sudden it's not OK.

I doubt we would have gone on a rampage had they resisted with broomsticks.

:roll:

Nonetheless, the [civilised] global response to this incident has been largely appropriate; even Canada condemned the use of this type of violence on the part of the Republic of Israel.

Hmmm, something I don't agree with from the CPoC and you do, lol.

It’s too bad we can’t find some way to force Israel and the Palestinian Authority to just sit down, shut up, and let a mediator handle the entirety of their diplomatic relationship.

Now that I can agree with.

That was part of the job of the UN, every time they tried to implement something the US vetoed the resolution.

:roll:

You can bet the Rothschild group are making money over this and all conflicts, they are the only ones with a vested interest in armed conflict.

:roll:

Are those Ninja throwing stars or CD's?

They're grinding discs, and if you throw one hard enough, they can crack a skull.

I assume the rusty pliers were there to promote blood poisoning after breaking the flesh in some fashion.

You can make fun all you want. Even under Canadian Criminal code, all you have to do to be charged with "weapons dangerous" is use something, anything, as a weapon.

Go call your local Police station if you doubt me.

 

[captain morgan]

if it really sounds sensible to you, then i will begin to think you are a robot set up to say "ırr , everybody is enemy, kill everybody- everybody is enemy, kill everybody-everyb.." (every woman has a tweezer. be careful )

here's the lesson that the peace-brigade didn't learn.... Ya don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

Maybe the Turkish government ought to spend less time organizing blockade breaking actions and more time getting the subtitles put into Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

 

[selin]

Just answering a question that was asked. Everything in that picture can be used as a weapon. (message #168

do you think Israel is afraid of that equipment?, come on, even Israel would reject that, 'cause it is very galling for Israel .

 

[CDNBear]

do you think Israel is afraid of that equipment?, come on, even Israel would reject that, 'cause it is very galling for Israel .

A weapon is a weapon, period.

If you don't think so, go chase a Turkish cop with a pair of pliers and see how long it takes you to get out of the hospital.

Unless you think these are the weapons the Israeli's thought might be smuggled into Israel. In that case, the answer is, no, these are the weapons used to attack the Israeli forces that were attempting to stop a ship that may have been smuggling weapons. And they are weapons.

 

[Colpy]

Okay: Lone Wolf, Dark Beaver, Selin, et al......

I am NOT talking about anti-piracy operations when I speak of Canadians boarding merchant vessels on the high seas.

Straight from the Canadian Navy website:

Operation Apollo
When: October 2, 2001-December 15, 2003 [HMCS Halifax was the first to deploy October 8, 2001 and Calgary the last, leaving June 15, 03 and returning December 15, 2003]
Where in World: Arabian Sea, Arabian Gulf Region, Northern Indian Ocean, Afghanistan
Who: 3rd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (3 PPCLI) Battle Group, Canadian Naval Task Group [a commander with three or four warships under his command, plus a supply ship and Sea King helicopters], Long-Range Patrol Detachment comprising two CP-140 Aurora maritime patrol and surveillance aircraft, and a Tactical Airlift Detachment comprising three CC-130 Hercules transport aircraft. This resulted in a total of 4,000 sailors deployed for six months on 16 out of the Navy’s 18 major warships, some returning twice.
What: An immediate response to the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, Op APOLLO was our contribution to the war on terror. While in concert, Canadians ships hailed and boarded suspicious vessels, becoming one of the world’s leading navies in boarding party tactics. The Operations following the end of Op Apollo have been the land-based Operations Archer and the naval operation, Altair.

Operation Altair
When: January 2004 to present. HMCS Toronto was the first to deploy, from January to July 2004
Where in the World: Persian (Arabian) Gulf
Who: 247 personnel serving in HMC Ships Toronto and Winnipeg.
What: Operation ALTAIRis the Canadian Forces maritime contribution to the U.S.-led coalition campaign against terrorism known as Operation ENDURING FREEDOM(OEF). Operation ALTAIRcomprises single ship deployments. It picks up where Operation APOLLO left off, though in a smaller format.


Canadian Navy: Operations & Exercises

EXACTLY what the Israelis were doing........

 

[CDNBear]

Okay: Lone Wolf, Dark Beaver, Selin, et al......

I am NOT talking about anti-piracy operations when I speak of Canadians boarding merchant vessels on the high seas.

They already knew that Colpy, they can't counter it with reality so they have to pretend that you were talking about something else.

I thought you knew that already. ;-)

 

[Colpy]

here's the lesson that the peace-brigade didn't learn.... Ya don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

Unless you are seeking martyrdom........a special place in heaven......and a propaganda blitz against your enemies.

 

[selin]

A weapon is a weapon, period.

If you don't think so, go chase a Turkish cop with a pair of pliers and see how long it takes you to get out of the hospital.

Unless you think these are the weapons the Israeli's thought might be smuggled into Israel. In that case, the answer is, no, these are the weapons used to attack the Israeli forces. And they are weapons.

look at them , they seem necessary equipment for the ship rather than for making war! but after that poor reasoning, i challange with my mascara.

 

[CDNBear]

look at them , they seem necessary equipment for the ship rather than for making war! but after that poor reasoning, i challange with my mascara.

Those were the weapons used against the boading party.