Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

[MHz]

Arms smugglers have no legal right to ply their trade either.... And where do you get this idea that these vessels are exempt from inspections?

I didn't say they were, they have the right to choose their destination, landing in Gaza doesn't put Hamas in control of what is allowed in, the goods can be tuurned over to the UN for distribution, with protection coming from Hamas, the elected Government. The border crossings from Israel could be voided of trucks almost if Jordan did the same for the West Bank.

 

[CDNBear]

I didn't say they were, they have the right to choose their destination, landing in Gaza doesn't put Hamas in control of what is allowed in, the goods can be tuurned over to the UN for distribution, with protection coming from Hamas, the elected Government.

:lol:

U.N. Halts Aid to Gaza In Dispute With Hamas - washingtonpost.com

The border crossings from Israel could be voided of trucks almost if Jordan did the same for the West Bank.

15,000ton/week is no small amount of aid mhz. Unless you're trying to demonize someone.

 

[MHz]

Not that that has anything to do with anything I've said, but I agree. Hence why Stretches post is pure BS. But thanx for helping me confirm the absurdity.

They were still in a prone position while being shot, having the eyes opened or closed is of little value as to the justification.

If you support Hamas, you support neo Nazism. Period. It's been proven time and time again.

Goring and Himmler would have loved you.

I don't need a refresher, you do. Israel has not stopped the aid from going on to it's final destination, they wish to inspect it for contraband.

Sure they do, the proof is in how much stays in storage until it is rotted or otherwise usless before it get to the intended target. The quanity is established by Hamas and the UN not Israel. They didn't like it when they had nothing but bread lines.

No it hasn't. You've just babbled about it being illegal, without ever showing cause. And certainly while ignoring the fact that the aid will not be prevented from reaching its intended port.

They were redirected away from their desired port as far as I know.

 

[CDNBear]

They were still in a prone position while being shot, having the eyes opened or closed is of little value as to the justification.

:lol:

No proof what so ever, just something you pulled out your ass. As usual.

Goring and Himmler would have loved you.

Actually, I would have been put to death, because I'm not white, lmao. But like I've said so many times, your grasp of reality and your severe comprehension issues, cause you to make all sorts of absurd claims.

Sure they do, the proof is in how much stays in storage until it is rotted or otherwise usless before it get to the intended target.

Building supplies, concrete electric carts and prefab buildings have a shelf life? Again, reality dictates your posts are absurd.

The quanity is established by Hamas and the UN not Israel. They didn't like it when they had nothing but bread lines.

And Olympic sized swimming pools. Again, reality dictates otherwise.

They were redirected away from their desired port as far as I know.

For inspection. It has already been established that the cargo will end up at its intended port, upon inspection.

 

[captain morgan]

I didn't say they were, they have the right to choose their destination, landing in Gaza doesn't put Hamas in control of what is allowed in, the goods can be tuurned over to the UN for distribution, with protection coming from Hamas, the elected Government. The border crossings from Israel could be voided of trucks almost if Jordan did the same for the West Bank.

You did suggest that they were exempt from inspections, but let's be clear, the inspection occurs at the port of entry, not at the Al Queda inspection station.

As far as the UN is concerned, personally, i have no use for that body, they've proven themselves useless in past and are not above being corrupt in their own right. That said, this blockade was affected for a reason MHz and you can bet that it has everything to do with the Hamas terrorists smuggling in weapons and teh Palestinian "authorities" being in breech of many of teh UN protocols that you expect Israel to comply by.

 

[MHz]

:lol:

U.N. Halts Aid to Gaza In Dispute With Hamas - washingtonpost.com

15,000ton/week is no small amount of aid mhz. Unless you're trying to demonize someone.

It does, 15,000ton/week.
x 2200 lbs
33000000
/ 1.5 million people
22lbs / week / person. Care to show all that tonnage is strictly food items?


"We're not going to bring aid in here and let it be hijacked by Hamas or anyone else," he said. But he added that these incidents were the first in a year and a half in which Hamas tried to interfere with the agency's operations.

That would appear to be one time in 3 years that goods went missing. Know how many goods to spoiled or did not ever even get across the border because of the IDF and their commanders including the PM, a lot more than 10 loads.

 

[CDNBear]

It does, 15,000ton/week.
x 2200 lbs
33000000
/ 1.5 million people
22lbs / week / person. Care to show all that tonnage is strictly food items?

Care to show that it isn't? Care to show the other crossing where Egypt allows aid through? Care to consider the other things Israel sends in, like water and electricity, that do not fall into that 15,000tons/week?

"We're not going to bring aid in here and let it be hijacked by Hamas or anyone else," he said. But he added that these incidents were the first in a year and a half in which Hamas tried to interfere with the agency's operations.

That would appear to be one time in 3 years that goods went missing.

Once is enough. Hamas is not to be trusted, yet you trust them, defend them and idolize them. Even though they are a neo Nazi group.

Know how many goods to spoiled or did not ever even get across the border because of the IDF and their commanders including the PM, a lot more than 10 loads.

**** happens, and the blame lies squarely on those that would smuggle arms, not those simply protecting themselves.

 

[MHz]

You did suggest that they were exempt from inspections, but let's be clear, the inspection occurs at the port of entry, not at the Al Queda inspection station.

As far as the UN is concerned, personally, i have no use for that body, they've proven themselves useless in past and are not above being corrupt in their own right. That said, this blockade was affected for a reason MHz and you can bet that it has everything to do with the Hamas terrorists smuggling in weapons and teh Palestinian "authorities" being in breech of many of teh UN protocols that you expect Israel to comply by.

Gaza has access to the open sea.
The UN sure comes in handy for Gulf I & II type of events though doesn't it, go ahead dissolve it, with that goes the leg that today's Israel is supported by.

 

[CDNBear]

Gaza has access to the open sea.
The UN sure comes in handy for Gulf I & II type of events though doesn't it, go ahead dissolve it, with that goes the leg that today's Israel is supported by.

 

[Colpy]

Two Questions, with answers.....

Q 1. Is it reasonable to expect a nation's soldiers to board ships that might contain arms and military supplies for any entity that is currently at war with them???

A 1. Of course it is reasonable that Israel would board ships with tons of supplies going to Hamas.......who is at war with Israel and constantly attacks that state.....

Q 2. Should soldiers involved in such boardings be permitted to defend themselves against sustained lethal attack?

A 2. Of course they should, and did.

Case closed.

 

[MHz]

Two Questions, with answers.....

Q 1. Is it reasonable to expect a nation's soldiers to board ships that might contain arms and military supplies for any entity that is currently at war with them???

A 1. Of course it is reasonable that Israel would board ships with tons of supplies going to Hamas.......who is at war with Israel and constantly attacks that state.....

Q 2. Should soldiers involved in such boardings be permitted to defend themselves against sustained lethal attack?

A 2. Of course they should, and did.

Case closed.

Thank you.

Any chance in getting the audio in the choppers for the 30 minutes prior to the boarding?

 

[Colpy]

Thank you.

Unfortunately, I must now return to work, but I will continue your education in logic, linear thought, and applied ethics as soon as I can......

CDN Bear has been doing an admireable job.

 

[selin]

That occured in the International Seas.
Secondly, There weren't any weapons except aids but aids for Palestine mean to Israel as weapons already.

shame on you so-called humans

Unfortunately, I must now return to work, but I will continue your education in logic, linear thought, and applied ethics as soon as I can......

CDN Bear has been doing an admireable job.

Bear and you are the same staff,
dog doesn't bite dog...

 

[MHz]

Unfortunately, I must now return to work, but I will continue your education in logic, linear thought, and applied ethics as soon as I can......

CDN Bear has been doing an admireable job.

When you come back take up the reply here, the book the IDF dropped on who was to be whatever the book says. spared or killed probably.

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[captain morgan]

That occured in the International Seas.

Were the vessels and cargo going to remain on the high seas?

Secondly, There weren't any weapons except aids but aids for Palestine mean to Israel as weapons already.

Then why did the one, single vessel refuse to be inspected?. Surely they wouldn't be afraid that the inspectors would find anything.

shame on you so-called humans

So-called humans, eh? From what I understand from the press releases by the Israeli's, they stated that the peace-loving aid providers had prepared gas bombs and Molotov cocktails in advance for the purpose of burning the Israeli soldiers alive.... What wonderful examples of humanitarianism and peace.

 

[lone wolf]

So-called humans, eh? From what I understand from the press releases by the Israeli's, they stated that the peace-loving aid providers had prepared gas bombs and Molotov cocktails in advance for the purpose of burning the Israeli soldiers alive.... What wonderful examples of humanitarianism and peace.

...but if it is Somalian pirates such preparedness would be applauded....

 

[Machjo]

The fact that this had occurred in international waters means essentially that it was outside of Israel's jurisdiction. Who is Israel to dictate what goes on off its soil?

 

[clutch]

Hmmm, obviously..........Israel (Judea) predated the Koran, but thanks to the Romans.......however, if you will check out the lovely educational videos from Hamas I posted below, you will notice they don't mention Israel either.....just Jews.

Oh, so. Canadians and Israelis engage in exactly the same practise, boarding ships on the high seas to search for terrorists and weapons. For Canada, that is OK.......for Israel not, even though Canada's role can hardly be called direct self-defense as we were on the other side of the world (and haven't been attacked since 1945).......and Israel was a few miles off its own coast (and is constantly attacked).

EXACTLY the same thing.

Had there been anybody on board stupid enough to attack Canadians, we'd have killed lots of people....our sailors were trained.....twice in the chest, once in the head.

As for the international Community.........who cares? The truth is not majority rules.

And the UN is only slightly better than the NSDAP

Canada doesn't incite intense anger in people as much as the Israeli's do with their illegal apartheid wall and regular terrorist tactics

As for the international Community.........who cares?

lmfao

 

[darkbeaver]

Israeli propaganda is losing this one big time. So the fabricated outrage at the real outrage in this thread is comedy. Next we will hear that it was not a humanitarian convoy but it was in fact an assault force bent on the destruction of Israeli coastal defences and it was transporting huge WMDs. That is a nation of out of control lunatics, the world will be very lucky to avert escalation in the region at this time, and that is maybe by design. The continued good health of the economy demands stabilization by war I guess.

Please note that Turkey, Greece, and Germany have obviously advocated in no uncertain terms for their citizens to be released and returned, which the President of the United States has refused to do, to date.

 

[ironsides]

A straight line runs from the anti-Israel UN resolution passed last Friday and the Hamas flotilla.

These words are being written before the dust has settled on Monday morning’s naval commando raid on the Gaza-bound Turkish flotilla of terror supporters. The raid’s full range of operational failures still cannot be known. Obviously the fact that the mission ended with at least six soldiers wounded and at least 10 Hamas supporters dead makes clear that there were significant failures in both the IDF’s training for and execution of the mission.

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