Nah, that would just "cheapen" the many drugs that are instrumental in improving health and saving lives as opposed to those that are detrimental.
Insite Given Exemption By SCoC
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Nah, that would just "cheapen" the many drugs that are instrumental in improving health and saving lives as opposed to those that are detrimental.
Well, make it happen if that's what is best... Until then, it's still illegal and special exemptions should not apply regardless of all of the secondary arguments.
That doesn't make them any less of an addiction issue than those you already fund heavily. What do you think get shot up more? "Mo" or heroin?
Mo aka Morphine paid for by the people through an Rx and sold on the street beats imported hands down.
Have you been to East Vancouver? No amount of police-beat work will be slowing down the use of drugs in that area. Providing clean needles to those who would otherwise use secondhand alley needles is a way to help slow the spread of HIV.
I lived out on the left coast for a few years and visited the Hastings area on a number of occasions. Grim and soulless might begin to describe my thoughts.
As far as needle exchanges are concerned, that is a strong program that is present in numerous cities throughout Canada... An excellent program that keeps the dirty units off the streets and playgrounds and (obviously) offers clean/sterile rigs, but you don't need Insite to do that. That said, if Insite played an aggressive role in the provision of rehab services, I could see the merits in it's existence, but as it stands, I see them as enablers.
They are sending people to detox amongst other rehab services, the clinic is called Onsite, and it's located directly above Insite in the very same building...
According to the clinic's own statistics, Insite serviced 12,236 individuals 2010 and made 458 admissions to OnSite detox... That's a very sad success rate (0.0374%) for actually getting people off of the drug use.
I am going to be candid here because I have a son who has battled addiction. Drug addicts will use you at every turn to feed their addiction,. that will include, lying to you, stealing from you and telling you anything you want to hear. My experience with Detox and Rehab was that while there can be limited success, most people that go there use it as a way to avoid the consequences of their addiction. ie: to escape criminal charges or to get away from circumstances usually brought on by their addictive behavior.
In my son's case what he did was hook up with other drug users and begin formulating plans to deceive us and find new and inventive ways to use more drugs. This was the result of brainstorming with other drug users in rehab. When he came out of rehab he was even more deceitful and dishonest than when he went in.
What eventually led him to sobriety was finding people who were clean to help him get straightened out. From his perspective and by extension mine: Enabling is a drug users wet dream, the easier you make it on them, the less work they have to do to feed the addiction and the longer they can avoid the inevitable crash that is coming.
I find it rather pathetic that we will go to great lengths to help people do drugs, but are terrified at the notion to exercise some tough love to help save their lives. The Insite program is nothing less than a facility for drug addicts to shoot their heroin. While some might argue that these people are being helped, I would argue that we are simply feeding the crocodile for fear of being eaten.
When the drug users leave Insite, many (if not most) are still committing crimes to feed their addiction and those who endorse this nonsense are aiding in the commission of those crimes by enabling the addicts, rather than helping them. .
In my son's case what he did was hook up with other drug users and begin formulating plans to deceive us and find new and inventive ways to use more drugs. This was the result of brainstorming with other drug users in rehab. When he came out of rehab he was even more deceitful and dishonest than when he went in.
What eventually led him to sobriety was finding people who were clean to help him get straightened out. From his perspective and by extension mine: Enabling is a drug users wet dream, the easier you make it on them, the less work they have to do to feed the addiction and the longer they can avoid the inevitable crash that is coming.
I find it rather pathetic that we will go to great lengths to help people do drugs, but are terrified at the notion to exercise some tough love to help save their lives. The Insite program is nothing less than a facility for drug addicts to shoot their heroin. While some might argue that these people are being helped, I would argue that we are simply feeding the crocodile for fear of being eaten.
When the drug users leave Insite, many (if not most) are still committing crimes to feed their addiction and those who endorse this nonsense are aiding in the commission of those crimes by enabling the addicts, rather than helping them. .
That's a sad and unfortunate experience... Very much a 'school of hard knocks' experience.
You intimated your son beat his addiction... I hope that's the case and good to hear.
You intimated your son beat his addiction... I hope that's the case and good to hear.
unfortunately an addict has to hit bottom before starting a recovery process.They didnt take long in Calgary to shut down the free crack pipe program once the public found out about it.They should just legalize all drugs,make things simpler for the cops and cut down on crime in a huge way.
Forgive me, but the people going to Insite are not "banging junk without consequence" that sh@t is distroying them and they need to get off it. Do you want to pay to put them through the court / prison system? I don't and it will just not stop people from being addicts. If we as a country really want to clean up the drug problem, we need to spend a lot of money on rehab clinics as well as prevention ( our education system would be a start) When people say things like "It's Insite that's perpetuating the status quo" it makes me wonder?... Insite has not been there all along people, and what the hell are you doing to help or change the status quo?
