If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

[Unforgiven]

If we're all God's children, whats so special about Jesus?

 

[petros]

He was God in the flesh.

 

[Unforgiven]

So how is it that he's is God's only begotten son if it's him. Also, why does Jesus cry out for his father if he is fact his father and not his father's son?

 

[petros]

So how is it that he's is God's only begotten son if it's him. Also, why does Jesus cry out for his father if he is fact his father and not his father's son?

He said he was both in a Popeye kinda way in John 8.

To paraphrase in the Popeye way "I am what I am and that's all that I Am I'm Yeshua the Yehweh Man". Toot-Toot!

 

[DaSleeper]

The other 10% of the population that is (ab)normal then would be in the aforementioned groups?

You must have studied East Coast math:lol:

 

[Tonington]

You must have studied East Coast math:lol:

If 90% of the "normal" population are bracketed by those groups you mention, then it's logical that the other 10% of "normal" people are found in the bracketing groups you mentioned. Rules of logic don't change depending on the coast you're on...

:lol:

 

[DaSleeper]

If 90% of the "normal" population are bracketed by those groups you mention, then it's logical that the other 10% of "normal" people are found in the bracketing groups you mentioned. Rules of logic don't change depending on the coast you're on...

:lol:

Now that's what I call Doubletalk

 

[Unforgiven]

He said he was both in a Popeye kinda way in John 8.

To paraphrase in the Popeye way "I am what I am and that's all that I Am I'm Yeshua the Yehweh Man". Toot-Toot!

But that wouldn't explain why he would call out for himself on the cross. Don't ask questions or you wouldn't understand sounds like an avoidance of exposure of fallibility.

 

[petros]

That was the flesh wondering if all the pain was worth it. Death of the flesh is how covenants are broken as explained by Paul.

It was the death of the flesh that initiated the New Covenant (Testament) over the Old Covenant (Testament) with the Jews who believed in Jesus
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14530a.htm

Testament come from testamentum, the word by which the Latin ecclesiastical writers translated the Greek diatheke. With the profane authors this latter term means always, one passage of Aristophanes perhaps excepted, the legal disposition a man makes of his goods for after his death. However, at an early date, the Alexandrian translators of the Scripture, known as the Septuagint, employed the word as the equivalent of the Hebrew berith, which means a pact, an alliance, more especially the alliance of Yahweh with Israel. In St. Paul (1 Corinthians 11:25) Jesus Christ uses the words "new testament" as meaning the alliance established by Himself between God and the world, and this is called "new" as opposed to that of which Moses was the mediator. Later on, the name of testament was given to the collection of sacred texts containing the history and the doctrine of the two alliances; here again and for the same reason we meet the distinction between the Old and New Testaments. In this meaning the expression Old Testament (he palaia diatheke) is found for the first time in Melito of Sardis, towards the year 170. There are reasons for thinking that at this date the corresponding word "testamentum" was already in use amongst the Latins. In any case it was common in the time of Tertullian.

 

[JLM]

I find it quite humorous that the anti religion folks come here and hijack a thread in the Christian discussion forum. For the most part, it is the same ones that whine when the religious folks hijacks threads in the regular forums.

I'm not sure if it's "anti religion" so much as anti - repetitive trivia being rammed down the throats. There are a few of these Bible Thumpers who don't know when to shut up. Of course they have a right to be heard but let's just hear it ONCE.

 

[Unforgiven]

That was the flesh wondering if all the pain was worth it. Death of the flesh is how covenants are broken as explained by Paul.

It was the death of the flesh that initiated the New Covenant (Testament) over the Old Covenant (Testament) with the Jews who believed in Jesus
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: New Testament

What do you mean the flesh? IF it's God then it's God not something objectified. I am me, inside and out, therefore, God must be God inside and out. Unless...

 

[Cannuck]

I'm not sure if it's "anti religion" so much as anti - repetitive trivia being rammed down the throats. There are a few of these Bible Thumpers who don't know when to shut up. Of course they have a right to be heard but let's just hear it ONCE.

I'm so sorry. I was unaware people were forcing you to come to the spirituality/religion section and "cramming this down your throat". Do they kick in your door and tie you up while they cram?

 

[El Barto]

the doo ring my damn door tho hahahaha

hey , that's not funny

 

[JLM]

I'm so sorry. I was unaware people were forcing you to come to the spirituality/religion section and "cramming this down your throat". Do they kick in your door and tie you up while they cram?

I check out a lot of the threads hoping to learn something, I'm not against the "spirituality/religion" as I am sure there are valid ideas to be found there, but I guess to find one you have to get past a hundred idiots. :smile:

 

[Goober]

If we're all God's children, whats so special about Jesus?

He was the message and the messenger. Not difficult to understand once you set aside rude questions, ignorant and offensive replies. Baiting and trolling as well.

If you have a problem with religion take it and set up another thread. Pretty simple ain't it.

 

[Skatchie]

I was raised Catholic. I am in no way a Christian anymore. It's a group of stories with zero historical actuality. Maybe you can take something from some of the stories, maybe not. I happen to think that it's a waste of time but whatever, if the discussion is about the philosophy of certain rules etc. than it can be constructive and somewhat fun but debating strictly whether religion is retarded or not is pointless. It's just like the 9/11 and GW crap. Nobody is going to convince the hard cores on any of those three things.

 

[Goober]

I was raised Catholic. I am in no way a Christian anymore. It's a group of stories with zero historical actuality. Maybe you can take something from some of the stories, maybe not. I happen to think that it's a waste of time but whatever, if the discussion is about the philosophy of certain rules etc. than it can be constructive and somewhat fun but debating strictly whether religion is retarded or not is pointless. It's just like the 9/11 and GW crap. Nobody is going to convince the hard cores on any of those three things.

And ignorant replies add sweet fuk all now is that not correct - As i am also being as ignorant in my reply to you as was your post. Tell me, did it accomplish anything of a positive nature?
As to Historical Actuality - best read up on that before you make statements that are completely incorrect.

 

[Tonington]

Now that's what I call Doubletalk

It's simple subtraction. I didn't reverse any meaning. It's how you wrote it, we have ninety percent of the population that is "normal"

There's a difference between saying ninety percent of the population is normal, and ninety percent of the population that is normal.

It's not doublespeak, but you could call me anal.

 

[Goober]

It's simple subtraction. I didn't reverse any meaning. It's how you wrote it, we have ninety percent of the population that is "normal"

There's a difference between saying ninety percent of the population is normal, and ninety percent of the population that is normal.

It's not doublespeak, but you could call me anal.

And where does anyone think that 90% of the pop is normal - Any clinical reports on that one?

 

[Skatchie]

And ignorant replies add sweet fuk all now is that not correct - As i am also being as ignorant in my reply to you as was your post. Tell me, did it accomplish anything of a positive nature?
As to Historical Actuality - best read up on that before you make statements that are completely incorrect.

Hahaha. Yeah, there are so many historical documents out there about some dude being born of a virgin, turning water into wine and reviving the dead, coming back from his own death, etc. etc. He may or may not have existed in reality. It sure as hell doesn't make him the son of God. I think he could have existed. The stories are all just stories though. They aren't even original. They are stolen from astrology.

As for my post, it accomplished what it needed to. You are so defensive about Christianity that all you and the other fundies do is is claim Christianity is real. What I'm trying to say is, elevate the discussion to the philosophies of religion, where people can all voice opinions that can lead us somewhere productive, rather than continue the stupidity that you chose to continue.