Where's your proof that Israel had no proof? How do you know this? Do you work within the deepest realms of the Israeli security and intelligence services? Please, be a good chap and let me know. Thanks.
That makes perfect George Bush sense.
"I have proof they did it."
"Unless you show us the actual proof, we don't believe you and you're lying."
"Show us proof that we don't have proof and are lying."
"Then show us the fk'n Proof that they did it!"
See how that works?
Oh, I forgot. Silly me. You don't have any, do you?
If someone makes a claim, they need to back it up with facts and evidence, you don't take them on just their word. Someone doesn't first make a claim without any basis and then tells others to disprove them..... that's the definition of Retarded.
The FACT is - and unlike you lot I only deal with facts and not ideological, anti-Jewish mythology - the Israelis had proof that it was Hamas.
Yes, you only deal with the facts..... the same guy who posts threads upon threads about UFO's and Aliens in the UK. :roll:
The Israelis had, as Mr Netanyahu said, "a lot" of proof that Hamas were behind this despicale act.
"We've pretty much figured out who are the kidnappers," Netanyahu said during an interview with NPR's Morning Edition. "The actual perpetrators, the supporters, the command structure and there's no question — these are members of Hamas. We've passed some of that information to the U.S. government and others. We'll make it public as soon as the investigation enables us to do that. Our — my number one goal right now is to bring back our three kidnapped boys."
Yes, we can all take Netanyahu's word on things.... they had "a lot" of proof. This proof he speaks of you use a quote stating:
"We've pretty much figured out who are the kidnappers...."
They
"Passed Some of that Information to the US...."
Why not all of it? The US is their biggest azz-kisser after all, what's with the holding back?
"We'll make it public as soon as the investigation enables us to do that."
Ah yes... Israel's magical "Investigations."
I won't hold my breath.
Even the Paleosimians have admitted that the murders were the result of a rogue Hamas branch:
Accused kidnappers are rogue Hamas branch
Author: Shlomi Eldar
Posted June 29, 2014
Translator(s)Danny Wool
On June 26, the Shin Bet allowed the release of the names of the two men suspected of orchestrating the kidnapping of the three yeshiva (religious high school) students in the Etzion settlement bloc. The suspects are Marwan Qawasmeh and Amar Abu Aisha.
Summary The Hebron-based Qawasmeh family may not be under the direct control of Hamas, but its actions have placed Hamas in Israel's sights with regard to the kidnapping of three Israeli students.
According to Palestinian sources, Palestinian security forces had already reported to Israel that these two suspects had disappeared from Hebron within 24 hours of the abduction. That was the first clue in the investigation and the reason why Israel pointed an accusatory finger at the Hamas infrastructure in Hebron. But while Israel continues to accuse the Hamas movement and its leadership of being responsible for the abduction, Palestinian security forces attribute the abduction to the Qawasmeh clan of Hebron specifically. Though the clan is known for identifying with Hamas, it also has a well-earned reputation as troublemakers. Not only does it tend to ignore the movement’s leaders. It even acts counter to the policies being advocated by the movement.
So.... let's assume the above is "true" that these two guys kidnapped and killed these kids.
Based on your "Facts" noted above, it's a FACT that Hamas cooperated with Israel and gave them the information they required to help locate these kids.
... That it's a FACT that Hamas showed clear intentions of trying to resolve this issue with Israel and to prevent this from escalating into something it didn't need to.
It's also a FACT that these two suspects had no direct connections to Hamas and Hamas had no direct control over whatever rouge group they're affiliated with, therefore, not Hamas's responsibility.
It's also a FACT that rather than Israel actually going after the suspects or requesting Hamas to track them down and bring them to actual justice for the murders, Israel used this as an excuse to blame Hamas for something they in FACT didn't do and to bombard Gaza yet again with excessive force with complete disregard for civilian life.
There's your "Facts."
No, they didn't. The Palestinians, as is too often the case, did. Don't kidnap and murder Israeli citizens and then expect no reprisals. This current conflict was started by the "Palestinians" and now they are reaping what they sowed.
Yes, all of this is a legitimate & proportional response to a case of two thugs murdering three kids. Finding, arresting and charging these guys for their crimes isn't proportional..... total military action and the blowing up of people's homes and killing of even more innocent children and civilians is.
Right.... Gotcha. :???:
I don't insult my intelligence. I insult what little intelligence your and your ignorant mates have, and I shall continue to do that until you learn.
Well you need to do a better job if this is all you have to try and insult "Our" intelligence.
Israel has NO ONE to negotiate peace with....Hamas is insane.
Ah... They have no one to negotiate peace with....
And they aren't killing people either because they simply don't exist.... Nobody is there.