Horror Day of Israeli Attacks:
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Here is something that you would have a ready opinion on. Russia (Putin precisely) ended adoption in North America of Russian orphans due to cruelty to said children. These days orphans from the eastern Ukraine are offered shelter in Russia. I assume that is documented as to who is involved so they can return home when calm returns to the area. Kiev has recently said the orphans cannot be offered shelter in Russia, they have to go to the west Ukraine if they want to be moved at all. Considering it is Kiev that is shoot at the orphanages that seems to be forcing them to move under threat of death or serious injury. That is probably some sort of crime against a human. The orphanage this pic is from caters only to those about 7 - 17 but nothing is mentioned about the orphanages that most adoptions come from as employers would be more interested in these kids that somebody itching to be a 'parent'.
Donetsk orphans caught in war between Kiev and Moscow | Al Jazeera America
Olga Volkova, director of an orphanage in Donetsk, Ukraine.
I'm not sure I would hire her as a full-time nanny.
Does the current government encourage adoption into western countries for any/all orphans? (consider human/sex trafficking before you answer)
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Indeed.... Israel is a Democracy in name only, much like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
Yup, it's all just numbers and mathematics to you isn't it?
Oh I do "have the intellectual gravitas nor the decency to understand" and know exactly what I was saying and what I was posting. It was as intentional as that last fart I had.
I have some sympathy for what the Jews went through in WWII, even though they weren't the only ones who suffered equal or similar treatment at the hands of the Germans..... but none of that excuses the actions of Israel or its people since the creation of that "Nation" nor does it excuse any of their actions today.
What happened to them in WWII is no excuse to act like jackboot thugs and oppressing another people who's only real ability to fight back is to fire some tin cans into the air that have a 1% chance of hitting or hurting anything or anybody.
I suppose hundreds of civilian Palestinian deaths equate to 4 dead Israelis..... but you know, Those Palestinians should have been able to hold their temper and emotions from losing so many innocent men, women and children.
Meanwhile Israelis camp out on the beaches at night, drinking beer and cheering every time they see and hear an explosion off in the distance, killing those pathetic people who can't even properly fight back.
Maybe if other nations were allowed to freely enter the Palestinian lands to stock them up with decent equipment / modern weaponry like the Allied nations keep doing for Israel, these two people can finally duke it out properly and end it with the last man standing...... then all of this would end.
The alternative is to still beef up the military and aid for the Palestinians and then maybe Israel will see they won't have people they can put the boots to as easily and thus, lead to some proper peace talks.
Either way the current method of dealing with this mess won't solve anything.... Ever, unless Israel just decides they want to flat out wipe them all off the planet.
Which is exactly what they want to do, but they also want to keep the support and funding they get from other Western Nations.
There is an awful lot of money offshore of Gaza and Israel. If a Palestinian nation were hatched they'd be rich, educated and healthy from their resources. Water for crops galore from a nat gas fired powerplant/desalination facility.
Should they have access the way Kurds were given access in Iraq?
Should they have access the way Kurds were given access in Iraq?
Go for it Israel!!
Clean the place up..eh!
And while your at it, take away their shovels!!
Clean the place up..eh!
And while your at it, take away their shovels!!
Yeah except they wouldn't be farming, they would do what they know what to do, build bombs!!
Wow, that's a despicable thing to say. This is the first time that I can think of that warrants calling you a piece of $hit Colpy. I guess we all can be at times...8O
Though one difference is that some of us don't give people a pass just because they didn't mean to run over the kid walking home on the street. Intent or not, you choose your actions and you're responsible for what happens.
I guess when you think one side is blameless, your brain can't reason to think those that disagree with you might be more than a disingenuous lot. It's beyond stupid to say Israel is without blame here.
Half the worlds been lavished on these permanent professional victims, the con is ancient , the State of Israel can it's the con that's eternal, Israel lives on their meaty sacrifices the legions of lesser bretheren
can be replaced generation after generation. I don't think this generation will break the method of the ages.
can be replaced generation after generation. I don't think this generation will break the method of the ages.
That makes perfect George Bush sense.
"I have proof they did it."
"Unless you show us the actual proof, we don't believe you and you're lying."
"Show us proof that we don't have proof and are lying."
"Then show us the fk'n Proof that they did it!"
See how that works?
If someone makes a claim, they need to back it up with facts and evidence, you don't take them on just their word. Someone doesn't first make a claim without any basis and then tells others to disprove them..... that's the definition of Retarded.
Yes, you only deal with the facts..... the same guy who posts threads upon threads about UFO's and Aliens in the UK. :roll:
Yes, we can all take Netanyahu's word on things.... they had "a lot" of proof. This proof he speaks of you use a quote stating:
"We've pretty much figured out who are the kidnappers...."
They "Passed Some of that Information to the US...."
Why not all of it? The US is their biggest azz-kisser after all, what's with the holding back?
"We'll make it public as soon as the investigation enables us to do that."
Ah yes... Israel's magical "Investigations."
I won't hold my breath.
So.... let's assume the above is "true" that these two guys kidnapped and killed these kids.
Based on your "Facts" noted above, it's a FACT that Hamas cooperated with Israel and gave them the information they required to help locate these kids.
... That it's a FACT that Hamas showed clear intentions of trying to resolve this issue with Israel and to prevent this from escalating into something it didn't need to.
It's also a FACT that these two suspects had no direct connections to Hamas and Hamas had no direct control over whatever rouge group they're affiliated with, therefore, not Hamas's responsibility.
It's also a FACT that rather than Israel actually going after the suspects or requesting Hamas to track them down and bring them to actual justice for the murders, Israel used this as an excuse to blame Hamas for something they in FACT didn't do and to bombard Gaza yet again with excessive force with complete disregard for civilian life.
There's your "Facts."
Yes, all of this is a legitimate & proportional response to a case of two thugs murdering three kids. Finding, arresting and charging these guys for their crimes isn't proportional..... total military action and the blowing up of people's homes and killing of even more innocent children and civilians is.
Right.... Gotcha. :???:
Well you need to do a better job if this is all you have to try and insult "Our" intelligence.
Ah... They have no one to negotiate peace with....
And they aren't killing people either because they simply don't exist.... Nobody is there.
I take you have studied the great a$$holes at some university and must know whereof thou speak.http://forums.canadiancontent.net/images/icons/icon7.gif
By the way Colpy, I find it odd how you could have gotten all in a huff and deeply offended by my two previous supplied links when the first link was quoting an Actual Holocaust Survivor who also worked with Israeli's secret service. If that stuff was soooo offensive to you and Holocaust Survivors, than he himself must have been deeply offended by his own words.
that wasn't even the first time he's said that. he's repeated it many times over the years.
Wow, that's a despicable thing to say. This is the first time that I can think of that warrants calling you a piece of $hit Colpy. I guess we all can be at times...8O
Though one difference is that some of us don't give people a pass just because they didn't mean to run over the kid walking home on the street. Intent or not, you choose your actions and you're responsible for what happens.
I guess when you think one side is blameless, your brain can't reason to think those that disagree with you might be more than a disingenuous lot. It's beyond stupid to say Israel is without blame here.
EDUCATE YOURSELF.
Here, let me help:
The Hamas Charter, Article Seven
THAT is a call to genocide, clearer than anything in Mein Kampf
The Jews, however, refuse to be led to their slaughter peacefully.
Let me say it again:
Hamas, (and Hezbollah) have clearly stated their intention to murder every Jew on earth, starting with Israel.
As soon as you guys stop navel-gazing and listen to their own words, you will get the drift.
Hamas started this fight, Hamas has refused any cease fire, Hamas hides weapons in schools and mosques and Hamas uses their own people as human shields for simple propaganda purposes.
The Hamas Charter, Preamble:
The Hamas Charter, Article Thirteen:
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Sounds good. Perpetual warfare it is.
Remember when the IRA said it would not rest until Ireland was united and free? Well, there's all the proof you need that no organisation ever, EVER does anything contrary to their written charter.
Kinda like a slaveowner writing "all men are created equal."
Remember when the IRA said it would not rest until Ireland was united and free? Well, there's all the proof you need that no organisation ever, EVER does anything contrary to their written charter.
Kinda like a slaveowner writing "all men are created equal."
I absolutely agree.......and Hamas has agreed to truces before, and kept them, contrary to their own Charter.
Although one suspects they are less sincere peacemaking than they are pauses to reload.
But in THIS case, Hamas started it, Hamas refuses to end it. All the death is solely the responsibility of Hamas. Israel can not be expected to tolerate attacks on its territory and citizens without retaliation...........and retaliation without a goal (destruction of Hamas weapons) is simply revenge..
Nope, just on the radio and T.V. almost continually since 1967. Their squabbling is getting a little tiring.
You've used TV and radio continuously and you can't define it better than squabbling. Perhaps you need to expand and take in some of what isn't on the radio and TV almost continuously. Just sayin, . . . .
If 1947/48 was a land grab after the UN was formed the outcome should be the same as it was when Saddam walked into Kuwait.