Horror Day of Israeli Attacks:

Durry

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The Palestinians can stop this war at anytime they want to stop it.
All they have to do is stop firing rockets into Israel. If they do that, they stop the killings of their own people.

It's all pretty simple, stop rockets, stop bloodshed.
Do you think Hamas can understand this??

Israel would be foolish to keep firing their missiles if Hamas stopped theirs!!
 

Serryah

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Who started all this? At this point what does it matter?

More deaths will not bring those kids back but they WILL build up the resentment on each side to keep perpetuating this BS.

"If only _______ would stop" - well they won't, because neither side sees peace as viable. Not because they don't want it but because they don't CARE. The other side aren't human and never will be.

Both sides are at fault.

Both sides are doing this.

Both sides will continue to do this as 'payment' for the blood spilled.

It's time the rest of us stop caring and turn our backs and let them solve it themselves, or not. Until there's true, real interest in any sort of peace, we - the rest of the world - should stop giving a $hit one way or another.
 

Colpy

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Defending themselves from innocent civilians?

Interesting.

Gotta go kill those 9-11 year old kids playing on a beach.... wouldn't want the rest of the world to see Palestinians are humans like the rest of us.

But yes, Israel is "Defending" themselves from the bad guys firing rockets at them.... that's why they blew up a beach with children on it and some fishing shacks. That's why they fire little rockets at the rooftops of civilian homes to warn them they're about to destroy their homes..... because they're hoarding piles of weapons, bombs and rockets under the beds.

Palestinians are Israel's little play thing whom they like to treat like a dog in a cage they can do whatever they want to, constantly terrorizing and starving out the people and when they actually try and fight back, they're beaten to an inch of their life while the rest of the world cheers them on like a school yard bully.

Before making this thread, I did a quick Google search of "Gaza"..... you know what I saw? Give it a try. Safe Search on or not, you're not going to find anything pretty.

But after all.... they had it all coming to them I suppose.

What part of THIS did you fail to understand??

Only an idiot would believe this was done on purpose. Why would the IDF hand Hamas a propaganda blitz?/ And ALL Hamas has to do is cease fire, and Israel will halt its attacks.





The proof, of course, being last night, when both sides entered into a calming 5 hour cease fire, in which Hamas did NOT cease firing (lobbing mortars into Israel during the ceasefire) and when the 5 hours was up, Hamas resumed rocket fire.

Oh, and this is what was going on only a few days ago just down the beach.........

‫צה"ל פוגע בחוליית חמאס בחוף זיקים‬‎ - YouTube

WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THE ISRAELIS TO DO????

Live in bomb shelters for the rest of their lives??

No matter how much you people want it, the Jews will never again line up peacefully to be murdered.

Two can play that game:
Israeli Security Chief and Holocaust survivor compares Israel to Nazi Germany
Israeli Security Chief and Holocaust survivor compares Israel to Nazi Germany


GERMANY 1940 - ISRAEL 2014
GERMANY 1940 ISRAEL 2014
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Israel has their own ghetto.

You're a ****ing moron.

Europe 1933: 9 million Jews
Europe 1945: 3 million Jews

West Bank and Gaza 1970: 1 million "Palestinians"
West Bank and Gaza 2010: 4 million "Palestinians"

You don't even have the intellectual gravitas nor the decency to understand how offensive any comparison between Nazi Germany and Israel is, do you??
 

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After 47 years of being chiseled away at and shot at you'd be pissed too. Israel has had 47 years to settle things up properly. Israel doesn't want peace. AT ALL.
 

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After 47 years of being chiseled away at and shot at you'd be pissed too. Israel has had 47 years to settle things up properly. Israel doesn't want peace. AT ALL.

Bull****.

Israel has surrendered land for peace repeatedly.

Israel signed on to the 1992 Oslo accord, only to have Arafat spit in their face.

Israel has NO ONE to negotiate peace with....Hamas is insane.

 

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Absolutely.

And the death of children is an unthinkable tragedy. I can't imagine losing one of mine.

But let's place the blame where it belongs; with Hamas, who started this fight, who will not end it, and who is quite willing to see children die for their propaganda war.


Hamas has taken to the practice of essentially using their children as human shields. In addition to this, the Hamas fighters also seek to blend-in with the local population as to not stand-out and be identified as a target... It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure-out what the consequences will be

The end result is that they must assume a direct and primary element of responsibility for the collateral damage in these exchanges.
 

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Hamas has taken to the practice of essentially using their children as human shields. In addition to this, the Hamas fighters also seek to blend-in with the local population as to not stand-out and be identified as a target... It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure-out what the consequences will be

The end result is that they must assume a direct and primary element of responsibility for the collateral damage in these exchanges.
It appears that Gaza is unbeatrable as this is how many times that she has been 'chastised'. Israel can never go for peace as part of that would include the right of return for all the Palestinians that were made refugees since Nov.1947. As that would include descendents that would be the end of Jewish power in Government. So much for Israel being anything close to fair and that goes double for anybody that supports her because this is what is actually being supported. It is unlikely that anybody from the UK could see through that as their entire power structure is based on fear and intimidation and wholesale slaughter if resistance appears.

The Bankers have more at stake in Jerusalem than the Jews do. It takes very little to get them taken over by 'the mob mentality' and clear thinking is not part of the formula. Tell a Judge today that your criminal actions were based on a belief of what happened 70 years ago and he is going to put you in the cellar of an insane asylum. So rather than use the points for which Israel can be condemned the topic goes to something that is in the gray area as it pulls on the heartstrings about love for 'your own family' when that has never been a legal reason for acting above the law even if the law will look the other way if at all possible. If it doesn't stand by law alone then you probably shouldn't be doing it. Can you imagine Gaza back to 1947 borders and just offshore is a very busy NG field along with an island that is 3 sq mi that is an airport and deep water port for goods and tourists and business people

We have reservations so we have a form of Gaza that is 50 years longer and no solution is being explored so, with any luck, that term will not be used for the next 100 years. I wonder if the view is the same for people even when they don't make that connection. The Indians are unreasonable people and are always looking for a way to make the Govt look bad when the Gov actually never ever does anything wrong when dealing with Indian affairs. That isn't saying some of the plans the Indians come up with are the cream of the crop either but their cause when pushed by professionals in the field at the ICC would be about as binding and 'fair' as you get for justice so that part has to be working properly and so far no cases involving Gaza have been heard and that is why the ICC was created in the first place, iron out what UN 181 actually means under international law. It must be a pretty shaky document if that is being prevented.
The floor of the UN is also where Israel should air all it's anti-semitic claims and a vote by all members would rule on whether something was racist in nature rather than it being based on what the Jews 'believed in their heart'. Not many of the claims would actually be brought up for a vote IMO.
 

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None.

Only an idiot would believe this was done on purpose. Why would the IDF hand Hamas a propaganda blitz?/ And ALL Hamas has to do is cease fire, and Israel will halt its attacks.

Therefore the on-going violence, and all the deaths resulting, are solely the responsibility of Hamas.

Well today those who you label idiots have increased by many millions and they will close their ears to the pleas of defensive right of liars who murder children for sport. And you worship them.


"This worship, however introduced, is upheld by its antiquity; all their other customs, which are at once perverse and disgusting, owe their strength to their very badness. The most degraded out of other races, scorning their national beliefs, brought to them their contributions and presents. " Tacitus
 

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Hamas has taken to the practice of essentially using their children as human shields.


IDF has used human shields for certain. they admitted it.
The IDF admitted it had used Palestinians as 'human shields', in limited capacities, a practice subsequently banned by Israel's High Court of Justice.[27] The Israeli Defense Ministry appealed this decision.[28]


Human shield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


both sides may be using human shields.
 

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Hamas has taken to the practice of essentially using their children as human shields.
So the Indians in Canada were actually pushing their children into the RCC dungeon schools? Just like the children in Gaza are never 'kidnapped' and taken to an IDF Facility, they are rescued instead?
If there were no 'occupied territories' there would be no danger to Israeli children if they were to be wandering around. The whole situation does serve to show how desperate men become to hold onto power that should not be theirs as Arabs should outnumber Jews at the election booths and that determines who the Govt is. The West Bank could have made a deal with Syria for control of the water in the Golan heights and crops that needed less water were moved to Israel where the irrigation could easily handle the fields demand and the crops that needed more water were planted closer to the start of the rivers. That would make the produce available for locals and exports. Israel preferred to take the area by force and whatever they decide to grow is grown and all profits end up in Israel's coffers, that is a war crime and Israel says FU so how much respect do they expect to earn from the locals and the international community? If anti-semitism is a concern then they should be doing less to build it rather than doing more.
Colpy likes to see concessions being made and he points out that Israel has given land (back) in the past. How about this, instead of starting out with the areas in the 1947 map and them progressing through the changes and you pointing out what areas were 'given back' would actually be.

Let's go one step further, the original division is taken to the ICC and the data for who was there and who was not refines 'Israel' into Jewish and Arab 'owners' so the 700,000 that were made to leave retain 'ownership' and the other rights that come with being an owner and living on the land. Adding in that last part will end foreign investment where a lot of property that will be redeveloped is purchased before the plans are revealed, that is also illegal. Lets say the Jews say that 'our numbers are small compared to the area we were given' so to right that wrong the area we were given will be reduced by the appropriate amount and development in those areas will be by buying land from an Arab in an open deal that prevents any Jew from selling his posession to another Jew. Jews would still have the right to build holy places in any of that original map. Being citizens of that area would allow them to change from the political to corporate roles and they could come up with designs that made the best use of the land based on water availability and that is a talent that could have export potential as permaculture is a fledgling industry

In addition to this, the Hamas fighters also seek to blend-in with the local population as to not stand-out and be identified as a target...
I can compare it tho the RCMP having squad cars that get blown up by jet-flighters coming from Cold-lake because of 'some dispute' where the police have handguns (by design) and Cold-Lake has the best war machines money can buy just to keep the rebels (RCMP) in Edmonton penned up. Clearly if it takes the whole Province to do that then they are not really up to the task.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure-out what the consequences will be
Depends, a rocket scientist knows when to step back, an artist also steps back every now and then yet they are for different reasons. Obviously physically removing your body from Gaza soil would be 'healthy'. You do not ever step back because that is the only way to see the events and how they fit into the big picture as clearly as possible. Each time you move forward for a closer look you also make the big picture clearer.

The end result is that they must assume a direct and primary element of responsibility for the collateral damage in these exchanges.
Typical hyprocracy of the West in general. Give them the right to 'resist' while removing everything that could possibly be uses 'to resist' and then deliver collective punishment is some infraction happens. Infractions that are backed up by words in the controlled media and secrecry prevents any further discussion.
I'm sure your remark being applied to the Holocaust is saying the Jews caused their own fate back then, just like Gaza is doing today. Care to clear up the difference for me as it seems to be a bit racist where Jews are allowed to do things to Gentiles when Gentiles are not allowed to return the same treatment.

Would calling a world-wide boycott on German manufactured goods be equal to firing off a rocket (minus the warhead) by Hamas at Israel? The level of retaliation in Gaza is real and recorded so proof is available, things didn't go so well for the Jews once German started using 'muscle' instead of industrial means to 'get ahead'.
If the current Gov is generations away from those days why are they mentioned so often and only when it justifies Israel carrying out the same type of action that they complain about when they are the victim. To move from victim to 'justified abuser' is a form of insanity, I'm not going to cheer that on.
 
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gore0bsessed

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Bull****.

Israel has surrendered land for peace repeatedly.
how do you surrender land that wasn't yours to begin with? they gave land back they had occupied illegally, and that was due to international pressure.
 

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If Israel didn't have some outside enemy to hold itself together, it would implode in infighting
If Christians didn't have some outside enemy to hold itself together, it would implode in infighting (Ireland, say no more, say no more)lol Which religion gave the other one the 'same disease'?