Homosexuality is a Death Worthy Crime Leviticus 20:13

[MHz]

I just reorganized Mhz own words to try to make sense of them, but no matter how much reorganizing I did....it came out as scrambled as his brain.....lollydoo

Memo to the site idiot, the words came from the Bible so God put them there, along with these one. Let's hope you reap what you sow in this case.

Re:22:18:
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book,
If any man shall add unto these things,
God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Re:22:19:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God shall take away his part out of the book of life,
and out of the holy city,
and from the things which are written in this book.

 

[Cliffy]

Memo to the site idiot, the words came from the Bible so God put them there, along with these one. Let's hope you reap what you sow in this case.

Re:22:18:
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book,
If any man shall add unto these things,
God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Re:22:19:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God shall take away his part out of the book of life,
and out of the holy city,
and from the things which are written in this book.

That must explain all the plagues and carnage that has occurred since the book fist came out because there has been over a thousand removals, additions and changes made to the book and what you think is the word of god looks nothing like the original. But you keep on playing in your fantasy world but don't expect anybody to sit idly by as you spam the forum with bogus scriptures. BS in, BS out.

 

[MHz]

The problem is, as you are aware (or maybe choose not to) many evangelicals and other literalists use Leviticus to justify condemning and hating gays and as an excuse for tormenting and torturing them in a vain attempt to rid them of their "sin". So, stuff your self righteous BS.

Considering you claim to have studied the book extensively you should be aware that all of the Laws (other than the 10 Commandments) were made null and void 3 1/2 years after the cross which is when Acts:10 was written. Those 600+ laws were put into place as the requirement that would serve to show Jesus was killed while being sinless. That was to fulfill the bruise to the heel from Ge:3:15 and that is what Jesus was referencing when He said 'It is finished.' moments before he died on the cross. The bruise to Satan's head is based on a different set of laws, take care of those that are poorer than you are, failing to do that will bring about your death by your own inaction.

The laws server as a fulfillment to this reference.

Isa:53:9:
And he made his grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death;
because he had done no violence,
neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Isa:53:10:
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him;
he hath put him to grief:
when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin,
he shall see his seed,
he shall prolong his days,
and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

I've already found what you have been desperately seeking for decades.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF2__-K8qFo&list=RD183ZFE-PkvU&index=7

 

[coldstream]

We're in a new Sodom.. depravity is now affirmed, legitimized, celebrated.. the few voices who speak publicly against it are reviled and persecuted. No culture can persist in a lie, it will fall apart from it own contradictions.. well before God can wreak righteous judgement and tear it asunder. Homosexuality is the Flag Bearer of the Culture of Death (abortion, euthenasia, marriage collapse, drugs, porn).. our society will reap what it sews.. in fact the gathering whirlwind is all about us.

 

[MHz]

That must explain all the plagues and carnage that has occurred since the book fist came out because there has been over a thousand removals, additions and changes made to the book and what you think is the word of god looks nothing like the original. But you keep on playing in your fantasy world but don't expect anybody to sit idly by as you spam the forum with bogus scriptures. BS in, BS out.

How would you know? God closed your ability to understand a long time ago. I don't have to open your eyes to be accurate in my understanding about the book. God will also open your eyes again someday, that is something that is just between you and Him.

We're in a new Sodom.. depravity is now affirmed, legitimized, celebrated.. the few voices who speak publicly against it are reviled and persecuted. No culture can persist in a lie, it will fall apart from it own contradictions.. well before God can wreak righteous judgement and tear it asunder. Homosexuality is the Flag Bearer of the Culture of Death (abortion, euthenasia, marriage collapse, drugs, porn).. our society will reap what it sews.. in fact the gathering whirlwind is all about us.

That kind of fits in with part of the preface to the book.

"Zeal to promote the common good, whether it be by devising anything ourselves, or revising that which hath been laboured by others, deserveth certainly much respect and esteem, but yet findeth but cold entertainment in the world. It is welcomed with suspicion instead of love, and with emulation instead of thanks: and if there be any hole left for cavil to enter, (and cavil, if it do not find a hole, will make one) it is sure to be misconstrued, and in danger to be condemned. "

 

[Ludlow]

Actually the sin of Sodom was the populous not being hospitable. You'll find that in another book in the Tanakh If my memory serves me .

 

[Twila]

I don't have to open your eyes to be accurate in my understanding about the book. God will also open your eyes again someday, that is something that is just between you and Him

and there ladies and gentlemen is the problem with a book that requires interpretation and is not straight forward. Its like god was some kind of corporate lawyer using legaleese to befuddled and confuse. Not at all like some father figure who'd want his children to understand with a certainty what he wants.

You'd think a being with infinite wisdom and a plan for mankind would have seen this kind of thing coming...

 

[Ludlow]

and there ladies and gentlemen is the problem with a book that requires interpretation and is not straight forward. Its like god was some kind of corporate lawyer using legaleese to befuddled and confuse. Not at all like some father figure who'd want his children to understand with a certainty what he wants.

You'd think a being with infinite wisdom and a plan for mankind would have seen this kind of thing coming...

I've often wondered why the writings were primarily figurative myself. I guess there was some reason. Maybe the same reason Mr. Lewis was so fond of allegories in his writings. Who knows.

 

[Cliffy]

I've often wondered why the writings were primarily figurative myself. I guess there was some reason. Maybe the same reason Mr. Lewis was so fond of allegories in his writings. Who knows.

The Catholic church was against translating the bible into the vernacular because they knew that in the hands of the uninitiated, it would be miss-used and miss-interpreted; in their hands it would become a dangerous weapon and used to control people. They knew this from experience. They also didn't want the competition. The problem with literalists like Htz is that they know nothing of the books history or the reason it is so cryptic: A person needed to be initiated into the meaning of the symbols, metaphors and allegories in order to understand the deeper meanings planted in those cryptic writings. The proof of that is everywhere, especially among the evangelicals and fanatics like coldstream.

 

[Twila]

I've often wondered why the writings were primarily figurative myself. I guess there was some reason. Maybe the same reason Mr. Lewis was so fond of allegories in his writings. Who knows.

Mr. Lewis maybe was offering his reader a way of being closer to the story and characters while at the same time allowing them to find meaning in the allegory that pertain to their own lives and situations?

 

[Ludlow]

Could be. Who knows.

 

[JLM]

We're in a new Sodom.. depravity is now affirmed, legitimized, celebrated.. the few voices who speak publicly against it are reviled and persecuted. No culture can persist in a lie, it will fall apart from it own contradictions.. well before God can wreak righteous judgement and tear it asunder. Homosexuality is the Flag Bearer of the Culture of Death (abortion, euthenasia, marriage collapse, drugs, porn).. our society will reap what it sews.. in fact the gathering whirlwind is all about us.

You forgot to mention the one thing that is worse than all the above.....................................hypocrisy!

 

[AnnaG]

Meh, I think anyone that uses a goofy book to see their way through life needs to get a life in the first place and think for themselves. As our youngest daughter said one time, "Don't do it if it makes you feel bad". She was 5 years old. All we taught her was to have respect for other people and life in general. I wish everyone had her kind of wisdom.
The one thing I found in the Bible that's worth a pinch of goose shtt is the bit about doing unto others as you'd have them do unto you. Well, the latter 6 commandments are ok, too, I suppose. The rest of the book is simply drivel as is most of the Quran. Books are written by humans and humans are often mistaken and sometimes lie like blankets.
If someone has no respect for someone else's life, they have none for their own. And THAT to me is an ultimate sin.

 

[DaSleeper]

The real problem is the equivalent of Kindergarten education level children discussing the value of calculus!

 

[darkbeaver]

We're in a new Sodom.. depravity is now affirmed, legitimized, celebrated.. the few voices who speak publicly against it are reviled and persecuted. No culture can persist in a lie, it will fall apart from it own contradictions.. well before God can wreak righteous judgement and tear it asunder. Homosexuality is the Flag Bearer of the Culture of Death (abortion, euthenasia, marriage collapse, drugs, porn).. our society will reap what it sews.. in fact the gathering whirlwind is all about us.

Reap what it sows and wear what it sews. You so sedom commit an error I could not help but comment.

"And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."

Sodom is earth a place where soul meets flesh. and the trials begin.

There is nothing new under the Son/ Sun ? Mankind is here on earth to bear the tribulations and trials while keeping its head above the temptations of the material/flesh. So long as we exist there will be no escape from the law no paradise for the flesh.Sometimes we rise above evil sometimes we don't. I have no doubt that the present age is one of great evil and we have to work without rest to rise despite it. An age of great evil is also an age of great oportunity in which the finest virtues of mankind arise as the need for compassion is greatest.

 

[DaSleeper]

And it's a great subjects for the atheists of the world to rant about....

 

[JLM]

Meh, I think anyone that uses a goofy book to see their way through life needs to get a life in the first place and think for themselves. As our youngest daughter said one time, "Don't do it if it makes you feel bad". She was 5 years old. All we taught her was to have respect for other people and life in general. I wish everyone had her kind of wisdom.
The one thing I found in the Bible that's worth a pinch of goose shtt is the bit about doing unto others as you'd have them do unto you. Well, the latter 6 commandments are ok, too, I suppose. The rest of the book is simply drivel as is most of the Quran. Books are written by humans and humans are often mistaken and sometimes lie like blankets.
If someone has no respect for someone else's life, they have none for their own. And THAT to me is an ultimate sin.

Exactly what I've always maintained................The Golden Rule!

 

[Ludlow]

Meh, I think anyone that uses a goofy book to see their way through life needs to get a life in the first place and think for themselves. As our youngest daughter said one time, "Don't do it if it makes you feel bad". She was 5 years old. All we taught her was to have respect for other people and life in general. I wish everyone had her kind of wisdom.
The one thing I found in the Bible that's worth a pinch of goose shtt is the bit about doing unto others as you'd have them do unto you. Well, the latter 6 commandments are ok, too, I suppose. The rest of the book is simply drivel as is most of the Quran. Books are written by humans and humans are often mistaken and sometimes lie like blankets.
If someone has no respect for someone else's life, they have none for their own. And THAT to me is an ultimate sin.

Golden rule is not limited to one belief. Confucius and others, like Hillel shared this thought. Good way to live in regard to others.

 

[AnnaG]

Golden rule is not limited to one belief. Confucius and others, like Hillel shared this thought. Good way to live in regard to others.

Yes, I know. Various people have been spouting variations of the GR since before the Christian god was born.

 

[DaSleeper]

Golden Rule Chronology
Anyone willing to read all that shït.....have fun....