seems to be a common thought in a time frame where communication and travel were very limited. Yeah spouting is a good word as there doesn't seem to be much evidence of application historically
Homosexuality is a Death Worthy Crime Leviticus 20:13
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Sodom and Gomorrah were condemned before the 'Messengers' were talking with Abraham. They were probably not all that much worse than other places, the story has to do with God showing Christ how to use the fire He will use against Satan's Babylon on the day the 7th trump sounds.
Joh:5:19:
Then answered Jesus and said unto them,
Verily,
verily,
I say unto you,
The Son can do nothing of himself,
but what he seeth the Father do:
for what things soever he doeth,
these also doeth the Son likewise.
That is the point, it is straight forward and all the explanations of figurative language is how the errors creep in. In all seriousness if this part below is not taken straight forward then the whole meaning of the book is going to be flawed.
(I'll let you read the vision part on your own)
Da:7:15-27:
I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body,
and the visions of my head troubled me.
I came near unto one of them that stood by,
and asked him the truth of all this.
So he told me,
and made me know the interpretation of the things.
These great beasts,
which are four, are four kings,
which shall arise out of the earth.
But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom,
and possess the kingdom for ever,
even for ever and ever.
Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast,
which was diverse from all the others,
exceeding dreadful,
whose teeth were of iron,
and his nails of brass;
which devoured,
brake in pieces,
and stamped the residue with his feet;
And of the ten horns that were in his head,
and of the other which came up,
and before whom three fell;
even of that horn that had eyes,
and a mouth that spake very great things,
whose look was more stout than his fellows.
I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints,
and prevailed against them;
Until the Ancient of days came,
and judgment was given to the saints of the most High;
and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
Thus he said,
The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth,
which shall be diverse from all kingdoms,
and shall devour the whole earth,
and shall tread it down,
and break it in pieces.
And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise:
and another shall rise after them;
and he shall be diverse from the first,
and he shall subdue three kings.
And he shall speak great words against the most High,
and shall wear out the saints of the most High,
and think to change times and laws:
and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
But the judgment shall sit,
and they shall take away his dominion,
to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
And the kingdom and dominion,
and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven,
shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High,
whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
Here is why the book even exists and how much will be changed.
Isa:42:9:
Behold,
the former things are come to pass,
and new things do I declare:
before they spring forth I tell you of them.
Jer:4:28:
For this shall the earth mourn,
and the heavens above be black:
because I have spoken it,
I have purposed it,
and will not repent,
neither will I turn back from it.
Eph:5:6-11:
Let no man deceive you with vain words:
for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
For ye were sometimes darkness,
but now are ye light in the Lord:
walk as children of light:
(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth
Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness,
but rather reprove them.
Wow, the RCC was destined to become corrupt and they did a stellar job of it.
They must have learned it from the temple staff from Matt:23 then.
What competition, with universal salvation being the 'forecast' they had to eliminate that to get the Sheeple to give weekly donations. Nobody would donate a dime if all of mankind is destined to be alive at the start of the new earth. That is the corruption that exists today, people think they can buy their way into heaven or that some are not included without belonging to a certain group.
All I'm doing is untwisting what should never have been twisted in the first place.
Nobody is more fanatic than you, how long have you been pushing on a door that is marked with a 'pull' sign.
Like the 'Take your pills.' comment that is the standard reply?
The Catholic church was against translating the bible into the vernacular because they knew that in the hands of the uninitiated, it would be miss-used and miss-interpreted; in their hands it would become a dangerous weapon and used to control people.
So, one of the cornerstones of the Protestant Reformation was the translation into the vernacular so that the "uninitiated" could interpret the Bible without the hocus-pocus, smoke and mirrors of the Church which the church used as a dangerous weapon that controlled people.
Like the Catholic church did when the word finally got out that it was basically one big child molestation ring?
This'd be the god who loves us, right?
Couldn't slip a playing card between you and selfsame.
What you don't seem to understand is that the RC controlled the Bible for over a thousand years and made most of the changes, additions and omissions before the King James version came out. And then the KJV left out 13 whole books. You are farting in the wind trying to interpret that tangled web, Htz.
Being abandoned by God for a little while really has you steamed doesn't it. I think I'll stick with the preface for the KJV for what they ueded for the translation.
" If you aske what they had before them, truely it was the Hebrew text of the Olde Testament, the Greeke of the New."
Do you really want to promote that Jews in Jerusalem couldn't translate the OT into English perfectly?
" If you aske what they had before them, truely it was the Hebrew text of the Olde Testament, the Greeke of the New."
Do you really want to promote that Jews in Jerusalem couldn't translate the OT into English perfectly?
Leviticus 20:10 imposes the death penalty for adultery.
Good thing people ignore that ''law'' today.
Good thing people ignore that ''law'' today.
Which merely backs up what Deuteronomy says about it as well. Never mind that Deuteronomy also calls for the killing of children who are disrespectful to their parents (paraphrased).
Of course I've always argued that "Christians" who are stuck on the whole Levitical law against homosexuality are actually really confused Hebrews because the New Testament doesn't even seem to come into play for many of them.
Then of course there's A) Context and B) A horrible mistranslation from the Classic Greek to Latin because the Bible doesn't once actually mention homosexuality until you hit the Latin translation.
There is the one that says a parent can report their own child as a glutton and a drunk and that would kill him. Unless they let their kids get drunk at the age of 8 it is referencing that 40 year old child that is drunk and living in the basement or living-room. Some parent somewhere will see that and automatically scratch their chin.
The NT would see it as adultery, as it views most 2nd marriages. If that was enough to keep you out of the new earth verses the start will be a 'puff' rather than a 'bang'. What it does do is keep you from being part of the 1st bunch that is gathered at the same time, the start of the 1,000 year reign. The people alive for that are not given in marriage after they have been given a glorified body so any marriages in this earth would be voided for those people. The ones given a glorified body at the Great White Throne event get the marriages and it points to each model of Adam and Eve would have 100 children as eternal beings and then be given a glorified body. These people live outside of New Jerusalem, the ones still not married live inside NJ and act as Priests and Kings to the people on the other side of the 12 gates.
De:28:64:
And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people,
from the one end of the earth even unto the other;
and there thou shalt serve other gods,
which neither thou nor thy fathers have known,
even wood and stone.
De:30:3:
That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity,
and have compassion upon thee,
and will return and gather thee from all the nations,
whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
Death is captivity in the OT. Marta fully expected Lazarus to come back at some future date. Having her and her brother and the rest of the 12 Tribes would be a single event. The next on after the 7 vials have been poured out. Her sister Mary will be the 1st one out of the grave, aka the beloved disciple, aka the girlfriend of Jesus, aka the wife of Christ.
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