Hey guess what...Quebec wants to separate again

[petros]

We're just Colonists to him.

 

[EagleSmack]

Yeah we sure made a killing :roll:. Your knowledge of history is either very poor or you intentionally distort the truth to convince others of just how "bad" us yanks really are.

Lend-Lease - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why would Tober let facts get in the way of a story?

 

[petros]

It was Canada who made all the money. Hooray for us. Talk about Britain being owned.

 

[Cannuck]

That still does not take away the FACT that many experts are now of the opinion that America was not needed in WWII.

Many "experts" are of the opinion that controlled demolition brought down the WTC. I guess there are lots of silly "experts" around. I blame it on yer internets.

 

[tober]

Quote: The United States did not charge for aid supplied under this legislation.

Yeah we sure made a killing :roll:. Your knowledge of history is either very poor or you intentionally distort the truth to convince others of just how "bad" us yanks really are.

Lend-Lease - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're being disingenuous. America's businesses made billions.

America in WW2 wasn't bad. America today is fascist. If you don't think fascism is bad that's okay, you're allowed to believe that. We simply differ. Unfortunately you are poorly equipped to deal with differing opinions - the US standard is to hate.

 

[Goober]

Quote: The United States did not charge for aid supplied under this legislation.



You're being disingenuous. America's businesses made billions.

America in WW2 wasn't bad. America today is fascist. If you don't think fascism is bad that's okay, you're allowed to believe that. We simply differ. Unfortunately you are poorly equipped to deal with differing opinions - the US standard is to hate.

Well BOHICA- Ya all know the drill - Adopt the position.

Marshall Plan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Marshall Plan (European-United States history) -- Encyclopedia Britannica

 

[MHz]

You're being disingenuous. America's businesses made billions.

America in WW2 wasn't bad. America today is fascist. If you don't think fascism is bad that's okay, you're allowed to believe that. We simply differ. Unfortunately you are poorly equipped to deal with differing opinions - the US standard is to hate.

If America was brought into both WW's then somebody else was pulling the strings and they didn't give them up to America any time after.
America today is still taking orders, is she collapsed it could be promoted thy then that all the world's woes are over because the 'bully' is out of commission then America was only made to appear to be the worst of the worst.

 

[JLM]

It's kind of ironic that a thread on Quebec separatism ends up in a quarrel between Brits, Yanks, and English Canadians all of whom have the same origin.

Yep, well with English genes would you expect anything different?

 

[MHz]

Don't let the arguing make you forget to leave them a bill that takes 250 years to pay off.

 

[tober]

Unlike many people, I just say it as it is. There's no piss-farting about with me.

I've had this discussion many times before that the USA was not needed to win WWII. The Americans have too high an opinion of themselves and their second-rate, trigger-happy, gung-ho soldiers and the truth of the matter is that two huge and powerful empires - the USSR and Britain - did not need America's smaller armed forces to win WWII.

Both Britain and the USSR were quite capable of defeating Germany without American intervention, and would have done so had the US stayed out of the war.

Many historians are in agreement on that matter. If it hurts American pride, tough. America wasn't a large empire like Britain back in WWII.

Britain needed America's economic help. Britain was bankrupt in March, 1942, when the last British gold in Fort Know was transferred to the US pile. The world was still on the gold standard you'll remember. Within the week Lend Lease took over. There is nothing wrong with that. Britain shouldered most of the load by itself until then while the Yanks cashed it. But fact is still fact. But for America, Britain had no foreign credit after March of 1942 and needed to import everything it needed to even survive, let alone fight.

The USA ... only joined in because of Pearl Harbour.

Wrong again. You should actually read history. The mistakes you are making suggest you've never read anything but cheap paperback fiction.


In December of 1941:

1. Japan attacked America.
2. Later that month Hitler declared war on America to show support for Japan.
3. America declared war on Germany on December 11, 1941 Declaration of war by the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Before that FDR wanted to fight Germany but American isolationist politics wouldn't permit it. After Hitler declared war America had no choice. Even so, USN ships were helping the RN and RCN with escorts earlier in 1941 before war was declared. As long as a convoy had a single US merchantman the convoy received USN escort, so Canadian authorities make sure that every convoy had at least one yank ship. USS Reuben James was sunk by a German U-Boat during one such escort.

 

[Angstrom]

I thought you said he was stopping the Quebec monopoly. Won't that open it up for western Canada. Matter of fact I thought there is a western cheese producer, isn' t there?

He's breaking their monopoly as in European cheese allowed into Canada free trade agreement....
Yes the west has some cheese too... But the majority of the cheese quotas are in Quebec. It's a big thing for them.

 

[tober]

Well BOHICA- Ya all know the drill - Adopt the position.

Marshall Plan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Marshall Plan (European-United States history) -- Encyclopedia Britannica

The Marshall Plan has nothing to do with today's fascist America. Another Colpy argument. Post something that is historically true but irrelevant to the issue, then say, "I win." Pretty sad what some peoples' low self esteem drives them to do. Yankee Go Home.

.... America was only made to appear to be the worst of the worst.

Who is the worst, in your opinion?

He's breaking their monopoly as in European cheese allowed into Canada free trade agreement....
Yes the west has some cheese too... But the majority of the cheese quotas are in Quebec. It's a big thing for them.

Everything's a big thing for them.

 

[Goober]

The Marshall Plan has nothing to do with today's fascist America. Another Colpy argument. Post something that is historically true but irrelevant to the issue, then say, "I win." Pretty sad what some peoples' low self esteem drives them to do. Yankee Go Home.

Say you win, why. What have you won? This thread is way off topic- you post lend lease- I posted the Marshall Plan that rebuilt the economies.
Each time the US was there. Along with Canada, Australia.
As to politics keeping the US out till the attack on pearl. Just the way it was then.
But the US was the arsenal of the world during WW2.

Liberty ship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The first ships required about 230 days to build (Patrick Henry took 244 days), but the average eventually dropped to 42 days. The record was set by SS Robert E. Peary, which was launched 4 days and 15½ hours after the keel was laid, although this publicity stunt was not repeated: in fact much fitting-out and other work remained to be done after the Peary was launched. The ships were made assembly-line style, from prefabricated sections. In 1943, three Liberty ships were completed daily. They were usually named after famous Americans, starting with the signatories of the Declaration of Independence.

 

[Angstrom]

Basicly Harper is paying Quebec back for all the years of Quebec prime minister ignoring the west, and favouring the east.

 

[Locutus]

It's kind of ironic that a thread on Quebec separatism ends up in a quarrel between Brits, Yanks, and English Canadians all of whom have the same origin.

Takes two to tango, three to psycho.

 

[tober]

Say you win, why. What have you won? This thread is way off topic- you post lend lease- I posted the Marshall Plan that rebuilt the economies.
Each time the US was there. Along with Canada, Australia.
As to politics keeping the US out till the attack on pearl. Just the way it was then.
But the US was the arsenal of the world during WW2.

Liberty ship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The first ships required about 230 days to build (Patrick Henry took 244 days), but the average eventually dropped to 42 days. The record was set by SS Robert E. Peary, which was launched 4 days and 15½ hours after the keel was laid, although this publicity stunt was not repeated: in fact much fitting-out and other work remained to be done after the Peary was launched. The ships were made assembly-line style, from prefabricated sections. In 1943, three Liberty ships were completed daily. They were usually named after famous Americans, starting with the signatories of the Declaration of Independence.

Hooray for the stars and stripes. What does this have to do with Quebec separatism?

 

[SLM]

Takes two to tango, three to psycho.

Some people psycho solo. Not mentioning any names............

 

[Goober]

Hooray for the stars and stripes. What does this have to do with Quebec separatism?

Same as your off topic posts. Tell me oh Enlightened One?

Same as your off topic posts. Tell me oh Enlightened One?

Oh the Golfer is back.

 

[gerryh]

As to the OP. It isn't Quebec that wants to separate, it's the brain dead, whiny separatists.......again.

 

[JLM]

As to the OP. It isn't Quebec that wants to separate, it's the brain dead, whiny separatists.......again.

In Spades!