Hey guess what...Quebec wants to separate again

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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
Then stop whining about how hard done by you are. When you and your families have been put into re-education schools, your language forcibly removed from you, your culture and spirituality beaten out of you, and your land stolen..... then...maybe.... you;ll have something to whine about.... but that hasn't happened to French Canadians, so suck it up buttercup or find somewhere else to live.
Don't pay too much attention to Gerry, s-lone. He's a half-educated First Nations whiner whose specialty is name calling. I have not yet read an honest attempt by him to take a reasonable position on any issue.

I've been here long enough to know what to expect from Gerry. HIs temper usually gets in the way of the arguments he's quite capable of mustering up but he still has something to say as we all do here.

We clearly don't get along on this issue and I understand separatism makes him angry. I think it's safe to say the person behind Gerry must have a pretty bad temper for better or for worse. I'm comfortable with that. No use getting angry about my discussions here in this forum. I'm here to exchange, test my ideas and have them confronted.
 

gerryh

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Not really. Reading your posts gives me lots of opportunity to presume that you are really stupid, and nothing seems to be changing. You never make a pleasant post. Everything contains nastiness. Am I nasty sometimes? Certainly. Ought I to just ignore nastiness? Certainly. But the majority of what I receive is because posters disagree with my positions. I embarrass some people. You don't embarrass anybody. Your kind of childish name calling is irritating, not embarrassing. Presuming that you are stupid is no effort at all.

then put me on ignore, dummy, because all you seem to do is make yourself look like a fool with your idiotic assumptions about those that have nailed you for the brainless twat that you are.
 

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Perhaps a "reasonable" position isn't a realistic position. Gerry calls 'em as he sees 'em! -:)

Any position that is based on fact and logically constructed is reasonable, political incorrectness notwithstanding. That is entirely different from destructive name calling that makes no effort to make a point, and only tries to hurt feelings. Being Indian is no excuse to go full out all the time trying to hurt feelings. Maybe he's just into the sauce, but he is equally unpleasant morning and night.
 

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I've been here long enough to know what to expect from Gerry. HIs temper usually gets in the way of the arguments he's quite capable of mustering up but he still has something to say as we all do here.

We clearly don't get along on this issue and I understand separatism makes him angry. I think it's safe to say the person behind Gerry must have a pretty bad temper for better or for worse. I'm comfortable with that. No use getting angry about my discussions here in this forum. I'm here to exchange, test my ideas and have them confronted.

You're doing a good job so far.

No, Quebec's only hope is to get rid of the traitorous scum that keeps trying to tear Canada apart.

Off to the ovens, eh Gerry?
 

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MONTREAL — Leaders of Quebec’s sovereignty movement are gearing up for a fight with the federal government over its decision to intervene in a provincial court case challenging a law at the heart of their cause.

The head of the Bloc Quebecois, Daniel Paille, contends the federal justice department is infringing on Quebec’s right to make its own decisions.

The province’s Parti Quebecois government, meanwhile, is planning a news conference for Sunday to lay out its own objections.

Alexandre Cloutier, the PQ’s minister of intergovernmental affairs, said Saturday on Twitter that Ottawa’s actions demanded an “exceptional response.”


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Quebec sovereigntists prepare for battle with Ottawa over right to secede

Here's mine:

Mayhaps the federal government should stop infringing on Quebecs rights with billions of dollars of our tax money every year.
 

gerryh

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Any position that is based on fact and logically constructed is reasonable, political incorrectness notwithstanding. That is entirely different from destructive name calling that makes no effort to make a point, and only tries to hurt feelings. Being Indian is no excuse to go full out all the time trying to hurt feelings. Maybe he's just into the sauce, but he is equally unpleasant morning and night.


There we go again with the assumptions, were you born this stupid, or did you need a lobotomy to get to where you are?
 

tober

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Quebec's only hope is a North American Union

What do you mean? An independent Quebec in a loose association with everybody else? It's been tossed about before back in the 60's. The yanks would suck them dry and spit them out. No nation but Canada would tolerate their nonsense. Do you think the US will give them a cheese monopoly? Or Canada, once they have separated? It's too bad what the urban elites who are the real "separatists" will do to the commoners, but once they're on their own it's a dog eat dog world. It used to be said that the only two good things ever to come out of Quebec were hockey players and hookers, but we have enough of both now.

It seems clear to me that this movement is clearly not limited to urban intellectuals. How do you explain the 1995 referendum results?

People can be lead, and getting people to complain isn't all that difficult.

The second point is that in days gone by and still today there is a lot of "Old Orange Lodge" animosity in Ontario. Quebecois complaints are not totally unfounded. Some years ago I was on a conference call in which a senior Ontario bureaucrat, a lawyer, kept insisting that he could not consider Quebec lawyers equal to the rest of Canada because (he said), "How do I know what qualifications the government of Quebec uses to qualify lawyers?" He was behaving like a fukking aszhole, but he was presumably representing the official Ontario position.
 

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Any position that is based on fact and logically constructed is reasonable, political incorrectness notwithstanding. That is entirely different from destructive name calling that makes no effort to make a point, and only tries to hurt feelings. Being Indian is no excuse to go full out all the time trying to hurt feelings. Maybe he's just into the sauce, but he is equally unpleasant morning and night.

My philosophy has always been (not that I always follow it myself to a tee) is criticise the post but not the poster, but sometimes like with a couple of real dweebs we've had on here, you just have to tell them to "stick it where the sun don't shine". With Gerry you don't want to assume too much. He just has a "rough edge" or two. -:)
 

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With Gerry you don't want to assume too much. He just has a "rough edge" or two. -:)

Well aren't you being all gentle and diplomatic. Gerry is an idiot with small d ick syndrome. His views are based mostly on his warped religious beliefs and he believes our laws should mirror those views. I'm sure Gerry would be quite happy to have the pope as head of state and delivered his sermons in four-letter words.
 

gerryh

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Well aren't you being all gentle and diplomatic. Gerry is an idiot with small d ick syndrome. His views are based mostly on his warped religious beliefs and he believes our laws should mirror those views. I'm sure Gerry would be quite happy to have the pope as head of state and delivered his sermons in four-letter words.


Tober, meet your twin, the one you're sharing a brain cell with. He also assumes too much and shows his stupidity every time he puts finger to keyboard.
 

JLM

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Well aren't you being all gentle and diplomatic. Gerry is an idiot with small d ick syndrome. His views are based mostly on his warped religious beliefs and he believes our laws should mirror those views. I'm sure Gerry would be quite happy to have the pope as head of state and delivered his sermons in four-letter words.

I'm not too sure his religious beliefs are all that warped and as for his d ick I haven't measured it!
 

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My opinion--they're free to go. They just can't take any of Canada with them. with the US approach on this one. No secession.
 

PoliticalNick

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My opinion--they're free to go. They just can't take any of Canada with them. with the US approach on this one. No secession.

I will gladly give them everything east of Manitoba to get rid of them. They can have all the per capita debt of everyone who wants to stay in the east and a bill for any federal infrastructure and be on their way.
 

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It seems clear to me that this movement is clearly not limited to urban intellectuals. How do you explain the 1995 referendum results?

Regional and Linguistic Distribution Results of the 1995 Quebec Referendum on Sovereignty - Statistical Material and Charts - Quebec History

It seems to me that this has a lot to do with whether or not French is your mother tongue. Ottawa Valley is the only place francophones voted in majority for the NO side. On average, I think it's safe to say at least 60% of francophones have a separatist bent.



Interesting. Perhaps what Quebec requires is two provinces- Montreal /Ottawa Valley/ Townships, and TROQ.

Thank you for your cool head in here....
 

JLM

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Well aren't you being all gentle and diplomatic. Gerry is an idiot with small d ick syndrome. His views are based mostly on his warped religious beliefs and he believes our laws should mirror those views. I'm sure Gerry would be quite happy to have the pope as head of state and delivered his sermons in four-letter words.

Hey Nick- One thing you have to give Gerry credit for is he don't give a sh*t about being popular and in this day and age that is an admirable trait. Any sleazy politician knows how to be popular! -:)