Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Colpy

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Two things.......


First; Signing now closed on e2341, the petition.

There were 174,810 validated signatures, which makes this by far the most signed petition in Canadian history. The next largest (electoral reform) garnered a mere 130,452 signatures, and the directly competing petition to ban military firearms got a measly, embarrassing 20,110 signatures. The move to ban such firearms was beaten by a ratio of almost 9:1.


Second, sorry gun grabbers, you can not stop access to firearms. We can make them at home, and that problem is rapidly going to become the norm.


https://www.guns.com/news/2020/02/04/homemade-3d-printed-12-gauge-shotgun
 

Twin_Moose

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Two things.......
First; Signing now closed on e2341, the petition.
There were 174,810 validated signatures, which makes this by far the most signed petition in Canadian history. The next largest (electoral reform) garnered a mere 130,452 signatures, and the directly competing petition to ban military firearms got a measly, embarrassing 20,110 signatures. The move to ban such firearms was beaten by a ratio of almost 9:1.
Second, sorry gun grabbers, you can not stop access to firearms. We can make them at home, and that problem is rapidly going to become the norm.
https://www.guns.com/news/2020/02/04/homemade-3d-printed-12-gauge-shotgun

Been written about a few times about illegal home made weapons used by criminals in Winnipeg
 

DaSleeper

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I'm profoundly deaf and have worn aids for decades. My first husband was a drag racer - he raced a Harley Davidson that he'd re-built himself. The guy was a genius with mechanical things - I'll give him that. My job was to pour a bit of bleach in front of his back tire for more traction off the line. No one I knew wore ear protection back then. I still remember the ear-piercing screech of those tires amidst all the back-ground noise of engines revving. My audiologist believes that is where the decline in my hearing began. It continued when I worked around chain saws as a first aid attendant on forestry crews. I was in denial about it for awhile but did manage to get pretty darn good at reading lips. I finally filed a claim with worker's compensation and I do have to say that I have been well-treated by them. I am given every new upgrade that comes on the market and all costs are taken care of by them.
When I retired, the first thing I did was go for a hearing test and open a claim with worker's comp. My hearing loss isn't as much a problem as tinnitus caused by noisy workplace,



which as far as i know there is no cure for.

I'll have to check if I can get monetary compensation...
 

Hoid

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Two things.......


First; Signing now closed on e2341, the petition.

There were 174,810 validated signatures, which makes this by far the most signed petition in Canadian history. The next largest (electoral reform) garnered a mere 130,452 signatures, and the directly competing petition to ban military firearms got a measly, embarrassing 20,110 signatures. The move to ban such firearms was beaten by a ratio of almost 9:1.


Second, sorry gun grabbers, you can not stop access to firearms. We can make them at home, and that problem is rapidly going to become the norm.


https://www.guns.com/news/2020/02/04/homemade-3d-printed-12-gauge-shotgun
3rd thing

This Hour Has 22 Minutes gathered over 370,000 signatures on a petition to have Stockwell Day change his name to Doris.

That was in response to the Alliance wanting to set a number on a national petition that would trigger a national vote on the question.

Your gun petition is way short of the number needed.
 

spilledthebeer

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3rd thing

This Hour Has 22 Minutes gathered over 370,000 signatures on a petition to have Stockwell Day change his name to Doris.

That was in response to the Alliance wanting to set a number on a national petition that would trigger a national vote on the question.

Your gun petition is way short of the number needed.




In that case can we get an petion going to have you officially named


AS HEMERHOID IN ALL FUTURE CORRESPONDENCE?????????????????


Colpy has made a VERY VALID POINT about home made weapons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it is a point you are HIDING FROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In that TYPICAL "As a LIE-beral - I dont know how to resolve the hypocrite LIE-beral contradiction"..........................


so I will just change the subject"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

DaSleeper

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In that case can we get an petition going to have you officially named
AS HEMERHOID IN ALL FUTURE CORRESPONDENCE?
Colpy has made a VERY VALID POINT about home made weapons!
And it is a point you are HIDING FROM!
In that TYPICAL "As a LIE-beral - I dont know how to resolve the hypocrite LIE-beral contradiction".
so I will just change the subject"!


There, FIFY!
 

spilledthebeer

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Bias is usually why people cannot or won't think critically.




Which is why Our idiot Boy Justin is hiding out across the sea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So he will not have to watch the UGLY NATIONAL RESULTS........................


of LIE-beral sponsored bigotry in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy has abandoned ANY ATTEMPT TO GOVERN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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spilledthebeer

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OHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That is a rather nasty story about record numbers of home made guns in Winnipeg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But it DOES HAVE A HAPPY ENDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The maker of so many home made guns ACCIDENTALLY SHOT HIMSELF IN THE FOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And so he got arrested and a bunch of his "guns" were confiscated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Happy Happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Colpy

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RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam’s push to ban the sale of assault weapons has failed after members of his own party balked at the proposal.


Senators voted to shelve the bill for the year and ask the state crime commission to study the issue, an outcome that drew cheers from a committee room packed with gun advocates.


Four moderate Democrats joined Republicans in Monday’s committee vote, rejecting legislation that would have prohibited the sale of certain semiautomatic firearms, including popular AR-15 style rifles, and banned the possession of magazines that hold more than 12 rounds.


https://wset.com/news/at-the-capito...mWUxEhrkOhSIxQPRxekA9twiaSAuimj97ixXfgwgeM3II
 

Colpy

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Does Canada already have a “red flag” law?


Is there really a gap in Canada’s firearm licensing framework that leaves us vulnerable?


Or are Canadian lobby groups and government politicians simply piggybacking an American political issue for their own gain?


These are questions up for debate in the wake of the push for “red flag” legislation across the United States now being imported into Canada.


Dr. Alan Drummond — co-chair of the Canadian Association of Emergency Physicians' public affairs committee — says physicians cannot violate doctor/client privilege and report a mental health issue.


“This [new red flag law] would allow us to breach our oath of confidentiality [for the] greater good for the individual and greater good for society,” Drummond says .


One of the key planks of Quebec’s Anastasia Law , passed after the Dawson College shooting that left 18-year-old student Anastasia DeSousa dead, requires professionals, such as physicians and teachers, to violate confidentiality and report suspicious behaviour.


Drummond wants this ability to report on patients expanded nationwide.


“In an ideal world, an emergency physician should be able to pick up the phone and call a local police detachment, but I don't think physicians would take this responsibility lightly. It would not be a question of reporting somebody with anxiety or phobias. We're talking about the far end of the mental health spectrum where people truly are...a danger to themselves or others.”


Heidi Rathjen, a long-time proponent of banning guns from civilians, says the change Drummond seeks is probably useless.


“This measure would be effective if it is accompanied by substantial resources as well as clear directives to prioritize public safety over the gun-owning privileges of individuals,” Rathjen said.


Minister Bill Blair appears to have something different in mind when he refers to “red flag laws”. Blair wants to “ remove guns from people deemed by the courts to be at risk of hurting themselves or someone else” – a far cry from the law Dr. Drummond seeks.


Minister Blair’s office also confirmed “red flag” legislation would allow ordinary citizens to obtain a provincial court order to have someone’s guns seized if they believe there is a potential threat to public safety.


“Our government wants to empower not just the police, but doctors, individuals in domestic abuse situations, communities, and families to raise a flag on people who pose a risk to themselves or an identifiable group, ensuring they do not have access to firearms,” said an unidentified spokesperson from Minister Blair’s office.


Wilful Ignorance of Current Canadian Law


These statements from Minister Blair and his spokesperson show they are woefully ignorant of current Canadian law surrounding firearm licensing and ownership.


If anyone – friends, neighbours, a spouse, doctor or police officer – believe a person is an imminent threat to themselves or others, they can call 1-800-731-4000 and select the option “report a spousal or public safety concern.”


This key provision of Bill C-68 was included based on evidence provided by medical professionals and pubic safety advocates in the wake of Gamil Gharbi’s 1989 murder spree that left 14 young women dead and many other wounded.


The ability to report a spousal or public safety concern is the law of the land and has been since the Firearms Act passed into law in 1995.


When a concern is reported through this hotline, an investigation is initiated immediately. Police must act or face liability for what happens if they don’t and were warned of a possible danger.


Canada’s current law is not shiny and new. It may not title the prevision a “red flag” law – the catch-phrase that’s all the rage on both sides of the border – but it is still the law of the land.


The push for a “red flag” law in the United States is happening because they do not license individual firearm owners, nor do they have the same background check requirements we have in Canada.


Can we pass another law to duplicate the reporting provisions already on the books?


Absolutely.


Will this new law enhance public safety?


Unlikely.


If people are unwilling to utilize the reporting provisions the law provides today, why would they make use of a fancy rewrite of those provisions tomorrow?


A wiser use of our limited national resources is better education for doctors, police officers and the general public alike.


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taxslave

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The extreme left has already attempted to hijack the red flag laws. In Colorado a nutbar tried to have the entire police force disarmed on the grounds they were a threat to her security. Fortunately her claim got tossed from court, but if does show the level gun grabbers will stoop to in their efforts to destroy democracy.