Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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That is the nice thing about unregistered firearms. The government doesn't know you have them so they can't steal them.
And.....I couldn't get the link to copy tables properly......you'll have to go to it if interested.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932...BhJWSF_n8Ry_mpb2lJrlTRIL2cAb5H7yi4xzECCPCC8oE
I thought this was interesting for political reasons. IMHO the Democrats are committing suicide. Look at the number of Democrat gun owners (16%) The number of Republican gun owners. 43% Now think about the number of Independent gun owners, it should fall between those numbers.
And what is the most popular rifle in the USA? The AR 15 platform, by a large margin. (To say nothing of all the other modern sporters based somewhat on military design)
And what do all the front runners in the Democratic race promise to ban, restrict, register, seize and/or forbid the sale of?
"Assault rifles"
Suicidal.
BTW, I doubt the accuracy of this poll. Any one with any common sense, when someone calls you up on the phone and asks "Do you have any guns" responds "Guns! Perish the thought!!!" I would, while standing within 10 feet of 25.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932...BhJWSF_n8Ry_mpb2lJrlTRIL2cAb5H7yi4xzECCPCC8oE
I thought this was interesting for political reasons. IMHO the Democrats are committing suicide. Look at the number of Democrat gun owners (16%) The number of Republican gun owners. 43% Now think about the number of Independent gun owners, it should fall between those numbers.
And what is the most popular rifle in the USA? The AR 15 platform, by a large margin. (To say nothing of all the other modern sporters based somewhat on military design)
And what do all the front runners in the Democratic race promise to ban, restrict, register, seize and/or forbid the sale of?
"Assault rifles"
Suicidal.
BTW, I doubt the accuracy of this poll. Any one with any common sense, when someone calls you up on the phone and asks "Do you have any guns" responds "Guns! Perish the thought!!!" I would, while standing within 10 feet of 25.
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Yeah, the numbers seem off.
Or reply with, "yes, we have an Arrow glue gun, a Wagner paint gun, a couple automotive spray guns, and a couple supersoakers". lol
If you mentioned the grease gun hanging on a hook in the tool shed , they would have sent the swat team .
OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our burned out Ember recognizes that people who own guns MIGHT NOT tell the full truth to govt pollsters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yet SHE BELIEVES the civil service union HOG PROPAGANDA about how BELOVED OUR GREEDY HOG TEACHERS ARE!!!!!!!
Burned out Ember has not noticed how carefully Cdn pollsters have become in asking LOADED QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TO ELICIT SPECIFIC DESIRED ANSWERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals are AIDED IN this poll rigging by their LONG FORM CENSUS ........................
that gives them an ethnic breakdown of various neighbourhoods....................
along with education level and current job status and other useful facts................................
for seeking out "RANDOM CITIZENS" who will supply answers LIE-berals WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11 top cops and policing experts who doubt the effectiveness of the proposed Liberal gun ban
The list of current and former officers doubtful of the ban’s ability to effectively combat illegal crime has been growing by the day.
by True North Wire
February 9, 2020
More police officers and policing departments across Canada are voicing their opinions on the Liberal government’s proposed gun ban.
While campaigning for re-election in 2019, Trudeau promised that his government would give municipalities more authority to ban handguns in their districts.
The Liberals are also nearing a decision to ban “assault-style” rifles. Public Safety Minister Bill Blair recently revealed that the government is willing to bypass debate on the issue in the House of Commons and use an Order in Council to effectively force their plans into law.
The list of current and former officers doubtful of the ban’s ability to effectively combat illegal crime has been growing by the day.
Here are eleven police officers and policing experts who have gone on record speaking out against the proposed ban, in their own words.
President of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police Adam Palmer
“People can’t be naive to the realities of how it works with organized crime and smuggling,” said Palmer.
“There will always be an influx of guns from the United States into Canada… Heroin is illegal in Canada, too, but we have heroin in Canada.”
President of the Toronto Police Association Mike McCormack
“There’s no way in my world or any world I know that this [a handgun ban] would have an impact on somebody who’s going to go out and buy an illegal gun and use it to kill another person or shoot another person,” claimed McCormack.
Former police officer and True North Fellow Leo Knight
”More regulations on law-abiding citizens is profoundly stupid. It is done by incompetent governments faced with a problem who want to be seen to be doing something but aren’t smart enough to actually figure out what to do,” said Knight.
Retired Toronto Police Holdup Squad Staff-Inspector Mike Earl
According to Earl, “A handgun ban is ridiculous and doesn’t address the actual problem of criminals shooting up the city. [John] Tory is looking for an easy answer, but there is no easy answer.”
Former Chief of Ontario Provincial Police Chris Lewis
“It would be unmanageable and unfair to the majority of handgun owners who obey the law and always use their guns safely. Let’s effectively deal with the criminals that do NOT obey the current criminal law,” said Lewis.
“A handgun ban in Toronto will do nothing to abate gun crime. A city ban would have to be a bylaw, and criminals are totally ignoring criminal law, so a bylaw ticket likely won’t scare them! And the “law abiding” handgun owners are just that, and not a threat,” he tweeted.
Durham Regional Police Chief Paul Martin
“From a policing standpoint, it would be a nightmare to enforce,” Martin remarked.
Winnipeg Police Service
“I guess it might make people feel good but it will not change the threat level one iota,” claimed Winnipeg Police Service spokesperson Const. Rob Carver.
Winnipeg Police Inspector Max Waddell
“The reality is, if criminals want to get their hands on [a gun], they’re going to get their hands on it. [A ban is] not going to do anything. It will come from illegal means again,” argued Waddell.
“If people wish to get and claim an illegal gun, they’re going to do it.”
RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki
“It’s difficult for me to say, honestly. I’m not sure if a complete ban is the answer, or tweaking the legislation to ensure more accountability. That’s definitely something we need to study,” said Lucki.
Halifax Regional Police
“We believe we have necessary laws and regulations in place in relation to firearms. We respect the right of citizens to own guns legally and recognize that the majority of gun owners act responsibly and comply with gun regulations,” stated Halifax Regional Police Spokesperson Const. John MacLeod.
Regina Police Chief Evan Bray
“Banning something doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re not going to have firearm-related crime in your community,” Bray noted
“This isn’t … an exercise for us to try and further restrict or victimize people that are obeying the law when it comes to firearms.”
https://tnc.news/2020/02/09/11-top-...ffectiveness-of-the-proposed-liberal-gun-ban/
The list of current and former officers doubtful of the ban’s ability to effectively combat illegal crime has been growing by the day.
by True North Wire
February 9, 2020
More police officers and policing departments across Canada are voicing their opinions on the Liberal government’s proposed gun ban.
While campaigning for re-election in 2019, Trudeau promised that his government would give municipalities more authority to ban handguns in their districts.
The Liberals are also nearing a decision to ban “assault-style” rifles. Public Safety Minister Bill Blair recently revealed that the government is willing to bypass debate on the issue in the House of Commons and use an Order in Council to effectively force their plans into law.
The list of current and former officers doubtful of the ban’s ability to effectively combat illegal crime has been growing by the day.
Here are eleven police officers and policing experts who have gone on record speaking out against the proposed ban, in their own words.
President of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police Adam Palmer
“People can’t be naive to the realities of how it works with organized crime and smuggling,” said Palmer.
“There will always be an influx of guns from the United States into Canada… Heroin is illegal in Canada, too, but we have heroin in Canada.”
President of the Toronto Police Association Mike McCormack
“There’s no way in my world or any world I know that this [a handgun ban] would have an impact on somebody who’s going to go out and buy an illegal gun and use it to kill another person or shoot another person,” claimed McCormack.
Former police officer and True North Fellow Leo Knight
”More regulations on law-abiding citizens is profoundly stupid. It is done by incompetent governments faced with a problem who want to be seen to be doing something but aren’t smart enough to actually figure out what to do,” said Knight.
Retired Toronto Police Holdup Squad Staff-Inspector Mike Earl
According to Earl, “A handgun ban is ridiculous and doesn’t address the actual problem of criminals shooting up the city. [John] Tory is looking for an easy answer, but there is no easy answer.”
Former Chief of Ontario Provincial Police Chris Lewis
“It would be unmanageable and unfair to the majority of handgun owners who obey the law and always use their guns safely. Let’s effectively deal with the criminals that do NOT obey the current criminal law,” said Lewis.
“A handgun ban in Toronto will do nothing to abate gun crime. A city ban would have to be a bylaw, and criminals are totally ignoring criminal law, so a bylaw ticket likely won’t scare them! And the “law abiding” handgun owners are just that, and not a threat,” he tweeted.
Durham Regional Police Chief Paul Martin
“From a policing standpoint, it would be a nightmare to enforce,” Martin remarked.
Winnipeg Police Service
“I guess it might make people feel good but it will not change the threat level one iota,” claimed Winnipeg Police Service spokesperson Const. Rob Carver.
Winnipeg Police Inspector Max Waddell
“The reality is, if criminals want to get their hands on [a gun], they’re going to get their hands on it. [A ban is] not going to do anything. It will come from illegal means again,” argued Waddell.
“If people wish to get and claim an illegal gun, they’re going to do it.”
RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki
“It’s difficult for me to say, honestly. I’m not sure if a complete ban is the answer, or tweaking the legislation to ensure more accountability. That’s definitely something we need to study,” said Lucki.
Halifax Regional Police
“We believe we have necessary laws and regulations in place in relation to firearms. We respect the right of citizens to own guns legally and recognize that the majority of gun owners act responsibly and comply with gun regulations,” stated Halifax Regional Police Spokesperson Const. John MacLeod.
Regina Police Chief Evan Bray
“Banning something doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re not going to have firearm-related crime in your community,” Bray noted
“This isn’t … an exercise for us to try and further restrict or victimize people that are obeying the law when it comes to firearms.”
https://tnc.news/2020/02/09/11-top-...ffectiveness-of-the-proposed-liberal-gun-ban/
Amazing finding that many police officers using their brains .11 top cops and policing experts who doubt the effectiveness of the proposed Liberal gun ban
The list of current and former officers doubtful of the ban’s ability to effectively combat illegal crime has been growing by the day.
by True North Wire
February 9, 2020
More police officers and policing departments across Canada are voicing their opinions on the Liberal government’s proposed gun ban.
While campaigning for re-election in 2019, Trudeau promised that his government would give municipalities more authority to ban handguns in their districts.
The Liberals are also nearing a decision to ban “assault-style” rifles. Public Safety Minister Bill Blair recently revealed that the government is willing to bypass debate on the issue in the House of Commons and use an Order in Council to effectively force their plans into law.
The list of current and former officers doubtful of the ban’s ability to effectively combat illegal crime has been growing by the day.
Here are eleven police officers and policing experts who have gone on record speaking out against the proposed ban, in their own words.
President of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police Adam Palmer
“People can’t be naive to the realities of how it works with organized crime and smuggling,” said Palmer.
“There will always be an influx of guns from the United States into Canada… Heroin is illegal in Canada, too, but we have heroin in Canada.”
President of the Toronto Police Association Mike McCormack
“There’s no way in my world or any world I know that this [a handgun ban] would have an impact on somebody who’s going to go out and buy an illegal gun and use it to kill another person or shoot another person,” claimed McCormack.
Former police officer and True North Fellow Leo Knight
”More regulations on law-abiding citizens is profoundly stupid. It is done by incompetent governments faced with a problem who want to be seen to be doing something but aren’t smart enough to actually figure out what to do,” said Knight.
Retired Toronto Police Holdup Squad Staff-Inspector Mike Earl
According to Earl, “A handgun ban is ridiculous and doesn’t address the actual problem of criminals shooting up the city. [John] Tory is looking for an easy answer, but there is no easy answer.”
Former Chief of Ontario Provincial Police Chris Lewis
“It would be unmanageable and unfair to the majority of handgun owners who obey the law and always use their guns safely. Let’s effectively deal with the criminals that do NOT obey the current criminal law,” said Lewis.
“A handgun ban in Toronto will do nothing to abate gun crime. A city ban would have to be a bylaw, and criminals are totally ignoring criminal law, so a bylaw ticket likely won’t scare them! And the “law abiding” handgun owners are just that, and not a threat,” he tweeted.
Durham Regional Police Chief Paul Martin
“From a policing standpoint, it would be a nightmare to enforce,” Martin remarked.
Winnipeg Police Service
“I guess it might make people feel good but it will not change the threat level one iota,” claimed Winnipeg Police Service spokesperson Const. Rob Carver.
Winnipeg Police Inspector Max Waddell
“The reality is, if criminals want to get their hands on [a gun], they’re going to get their hands on it. [A ban is] not going to do anything. It will come from illegal means again,” argued Waddell.
“If people wish to get and claim an illegal gun, they’re going to do it.”
RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki
“It’s difficult for me to say, honestly. I’m not sure if a complete ban is the answer, or tweaking the legislation to ensure more accountability. That’s definitely something we need to study,” said Lucki.
Halifax Regional Police
“We believe we have necessary laws and regulations in place in relation to firearms. We respect the right of citizens to own guns legally and recognize that the majority of gun owners act responsibly and comply with gun regulations,” stated Halifax Regional Police Spokesperson Const. John MacLeod.
Regina Police Chief Evan Bray
“Banning something doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re not going to have firearm-related crime in your community,” Bray noted
“This isn’t … an exercise for us to try and further restrict or victimize people that are obeying the law when it comes to firearms.”
https://tnc.news/2020/02/09/11-top-...ffectiveness-of-the-proposed-liberal-gun-ban/
UPDATE
Petition e-1923 (Firearms) ended with 20,110 signatures, after running full term.
Petition e-2341 (Democratic Process) has 162,036 signatures, with 6 days to go before closure.
So far the gun grabbers willing to sign a petition are outnumbered by a ratio of 8:1 by people opposing any bans that are willing to sign a petition.
If you haven't signed......SIGN!
www.e2341.ca
BTW, the petition against the gun bans is by far the largest petition presented to the Federal gov't in Canadian history. The second largest was in support of Electoral Reform after the Trudeau gov't scuttled Electoral Reform when it wasn't going their way.........and it garnered a mere 130,452 signatures.
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Poor burned out Ember....................
the quality of her education is showing through!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
her idea of intelligent debate is Parroting the same single word insult.......................
until the cows come home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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lol Pathetic. That coming from the simple mind of a lunatic that constantly starts out with "Poor burned out Ember...................."
Where'd ya learn to troll? At "Trolls R Us"?
I guess you think "irony" means something to take wrinkles out of clothes.
Oh my...............the burned out Ember IS IN A TEMPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And she lacks the wit to argue her position in a sensible way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Facts are an impediment to LIE-beral values ...............................
and logic is poison to HOG ENTITLEMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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