Gun Control is Completely Useless.

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In this debate I feel the innocent who are suffering are the people who are getting shot.
 

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In this debate I feel the innocent who are suffering are the people who are getting shot.
...by unlicensed thugs who have precisely zero intention of handing in their guns at the demand of tater tot.

They're laughing at the stupidity of people who are buying into this crap, and so is the Liberal government who likely can't hardly believe how easy it is to convince weak-minded Canadians like yourself that this will actually make even an iota of difference.
 

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In this debate I feel the innocent who are suffering are the people who are getting shot.
Well most of the people getting shot are not exactly innocent and non of them are getting shot by legally owned guns of any description. So that would indicate the gungrabber laws you are pushing for are totally useless and a huge wast of taxpayer money.
 

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But the real suffering in all these gun deaths?

Its those poor people who might lose their gun.

My god, the suffering
 

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Do you support gang eradication as strongly or stronger?

Gangs destroy lives. PERIOD
A little bit of community action could curtail gang activity , however that would be vigilante and hence illegal . When push comes to shove those niceties may be forgotten .
 

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Yes all I have is sympathy for the victims of gun violence.
Yes , but no ideas how to stop the gang bangers from shooting each other . Maybe keep them separate by leaving them in their countries of origin .
 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/new-z...urn-50-000-weapons-buy-back-program-1.5405583

New Zealand gun owners have handed in tens of thousands of firearms as part of an ambitious six-month weapons buy-back program following a ban on certain semi-automatic rifles.

On March 15, a lone gunman killed 51 people at two Christchurch mosques. Less than a month after the attack, the New Zealand government rushed through new laws banning military-style semi-automatic weapons in a move that was closely followed around the world.

As of midnight local time on Friday, 56,250 firearms and 194,245 parts had been handed in at more than 685 collection events held around the country, New Zealand Police Deputy Commissioner Mike Clement said.

More than 2,710 firearms had also been modified to make them lawful, Clement told CBC News in a statement.

Police said a surge of people participated in the last few days of the buy-back, with more than 4,100 firearms turned in over the last week.

The gun buy-back was "unprecedented" and has been a huge logistical exercise for police, who had three months to get the firearms buy-back process in place and start communicating this to firearm owners, the deputy commissioner said.

"Right from the beginning we have said that the prohibition of semi-automatics was not blaming law-abiding people with legitimate uses for their gun," Clement said.
 
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/new-z...urn-50-000-weapons-buy-back-program-1.5405583

New Zealand gun owners have handed in tens of thousands of firearms as part of an ambitious six-month weapons buy-back program following a ban on certain semi-automatic rifles.

On March 15, a lone gunman killed 51 people at two Christchurch mosques. Less than a month after the attack, the New Zealand government rushed through new laws banning military-style semi-automatic weapons in a move that was closely followed around the world.

As of midnight local time on Friday, 56,250 firearms and 194,245 parts had been handed in at more than 685 collection events held around the country, New Zealand Police Deputy Commissioner Mike Clement said.

More than 2,710 firearms had also been modified to make them lawful, Clement told CBC News in a statement.


The figures are nice, BUT is it going to reduce the killings?
 

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Noncompliance Kneecaps New Zealand's Gun Control Scheme
As of last week, only around 700 weapons had been turned over.

Traditionally relaxed in its approach to firearms regulation, and enjoying a low crime rate, New Zealand has no firearms registration rule. That means authorities have no easy way of knowing what guns are in circulation or who owns them.
https://reason.com/2019/07/08/noncompliance-kneecaps-new-zealands-gun-control-scheme/

Epstien loves children and hates parent's guns.
 

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Eighty-two per cent of handguns in Toronto come from the U.S.: Saunders



Hayley Cooper
Friday, December 20th 2019 - 4:12 pm



Hayley Cooper


Mayor John Tory will be calling a meeting in the new year with GTHA mayors and police chiefs...to see what can be done to tackle gun violence.


He made that pledge exclusively on Moore in the Morning today.


It's welcome news to Toronto's police chief who feels they are gaining traction but more, obviously, needs to be done.


"The fact that I am hearing that the mayor is speaking about having a conversation with GTH mayors at a high-level that tells me that we are looking at understanding the narrative better than before," Saunders said.


Tory also made the claim that a lot of guns of making it across the border and into Toronto by criminals taping them to vehicles.
"Guns are coming in through a ton of different means and we're learning different things that are occurring and is that one methodology? I am sure that it is but I can tell you there are hundreds of other ways they're getting in," Saunders asserts.


In fact, Saunders revealed that 82 per cent of the handguns in Toronto have arrived from the United States. "We learn new things through intelligence. There are new, sophisticated ways in which guns do come into the city. Some are low-level sophistication."
Saunders has been keeping the lines of communication open with Public Safety Minister Bill Blair and local, national and international counterparts. "That's part of the reason we are able to solve the crimes we are solving. You may recall last year when we solved the case where 25 firearms were put in a gas tank. We speak about partnership and that's something that's helping."


https://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk...K8V7P1B9URf41nH2luTe1bwkJ30i85T87vpgfNWLrKn4U
 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/new-z...urn-50-000-weapons-buy-back-program-1.5405583

New Zealand gun owners have handed in tens of thousands of firearms as part of an ambitious six-month weapons buy-back program following a ban on certain semi-automatic rifles.

On March 15, a lone gunman killed 51 people at two Christchurch mosques. Less than a month after the attack, the New Zealand government rushed through new laws banning military-style semi-automatic weapons in a move that was closely followed around the world.

As of midnight local time on Friday, 56,250 firearms and 194,245 parts had been handed in at more than 685 collection events held around the country, New Zealand Police Deputy Commissioner Mike Clement said.

More than 2,710 firearms had also been modified to make them lawful, Clement told CBC News in a statement.

Police said a surge of people participated in the last few days of the buy-back, with more than 4,100 firearms turned in over the last week.

The gun buy-back was "unprecedented" and has been a huge logistical exercise for police, who had three months to get the firearms buy-back process in place and start communicating this to firearm owners, the deputy commissioner said.

"Right from the beginning we have said that the prohibition of semi-automatics was not blaming law-abiding people with legitimate uses for their gun," Clement said.


There are 1.5 million firearms in New Zealand. Considering the ban covers all centre fire long guns that are semi-automatic or capable of holding more than 5 rounds, including pump action shotguns and lever action rifles, they would make up a very significant portion of that 1.5 million guns.


So, New Zealand has managed to increase the number of guns on the black market by tens of thousands of guns.


Brilliant.


So brilliant Justin is following suit.



(Insert rolled eyes here)


Yes all I have is sympathy for the victims of gun violence.


Facts don't care about your feelings.