Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Bar Sinister

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I don't understand what you mean.

The simple fact is that lead fired into a rural environment or on a range does little if any real damage to anything.

The anti-lead movement is simply another attack on shooters.

But give us an alternative, and we'll go along.

Tell you what, when they find a cheap alternative for police/military firearms, I'm on board.

Until then, they can **** off.

Someone appears to disagree with you.

Lead Shot From Hunting and Fishing Kills Wildlife


https://www.livescience.com/2690-lead-shot-hunting-fishing-kills-wildlife.html
 

Danbones

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Yes hunting and how it's practiced in North america has been shown over all, to improve bird populations as has been posted already, while electric cars will still kill 60 million birds a year, and Bar knows that, he saw the post, but he refuses to acknowledge the facts, and then posts silly stuff like this.
(Hitler took them from the jews just before his pal soros the trumphater helped round them up)
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but I guess facts are not his thing.

I guess that's why commies, nazis, and fascists, like the trumphating CIA installed tyrant Pol Pot, or the trumhating banker installed leaders like hitler and stalin, like to take the guns away and shoot all the smart people.

Where did the lead come from in the first place?...oh, the environment...DUH!!!
Hey! Let's store the stuff in the water pipes in LEFTY FLINT MICHIGAN!!!!

So why didn't Bar post about the effect that the SSRI drugs, like the ones that metro truck driver were likely on, are having on the environment and the MURDER rates?

Either you have a gun for self defense or you don't.

Any criminal breaks in here, they better hope I don't go through the tool room and grab a chainsaw instead of to the much more civilized gun cabinet to grab a gun.
 
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DaSleeper

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He doesn’t care , guns are bad and turkey comes out of mom’s oven .
He's just a useless twit invited to the forum by another useless twit (namely Mentalflush) because he felt sooooo alone!

Someone appears to disagree with you.

Lead Shot From Hunting and Fishing Kills Wildlife
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Of course it does
It's called hunting....you silly dope!
 

Curious Cdn

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btw, you are probably lying your ass off, or full of shit. Here's a video sent to fire departments all over north america.


Why would I lie my ass off about something that happened to my brother and his friends while they were on a Scout hike when I was eleven?

You are one sick ****, you are. Ignorant one, too. I hope that they remove your guns, post haste.
 

Curious Cdn

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Because you were playing around with a rifle and almost killed your brother?

You didn't read the story of properly, you dork. I wasn't even there, only my tent. A kid got shot because another kid threw some rounds for an FN that had been left lying around by a sloppy army manoever, into a camp fire.

You just got a "k" for comprehension.
 

JamesBondo

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You didn't read the story of properly, you dork. I wasn't even there, only my tent. A kid got shot because another kid threw some rounds for an FN that had been left lying around by a sloppy army manoever, into a camp fire.

You just got a "k" for comprehension.

you go ahead and rewrite your story as many times as you want but the fact is the laws of physics doesn't rewrite itself. If you brother was injured, you need to find a plausible cause not some fairytale that any volunteer fire fighter and his dog can tell is BS.
 

Curious Cdn

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you go ahead and rewrite your story as many times as you want but the fact is the laws of physics doesn't rewrite itself. If you brother was injured, you need to find a plausible cause not some fairytale that any volunteer fire fighter and his dog can tell is BS.

What the feck are you babbling about? It happened exactly that way. If your grasp of right-and-wrong, truth-and-falsehood is so tenuous, you are certainly unworthy of leading Scouts, that's for darned sure.
 

Decapoda

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Lead Shot From Hunting and Fishing Kills Wildlife

I've heard that steel shot from hunting and fishing kills wildlife as well. Actually, probably just about any projectile, regardless of composition, with a muzzle velocity of 1200fps is pretty effective within range.
 

JamesBondo

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clearly, the facts flew right over your head. I recommend that you do not spend another minute on the matter.
 

Decapoda

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clearly, the facts flew right over your head. I recommend that you do not spend another minute on the matter.

Facts?? The first line in the article contradicts it's own title.

"Millions of pounds of lead used in hunting, fishing and shooting sports wind up in the environment each year and can threaten or kill wildlife, according to a new report from the U.S. Geological Survey."

This is a definite departure from stating such an incontrovertible title as "lead shot kills wildlife". Maybe the writer of the article could be a bit more accurate when crafting the title, rather than resorting to absolutes for effect.

"The most significant hazard to wildlife is through direct ingestion of spent lead shot and bullets, lost fishing sinkers and tackle, and related fragments, or through consumption of wounded or dead prey containing lead shot, bullets or fragments, said U.S. Geological Survey contaminants experts Barnett Rattner and Chris Franson."

I can see the problem with consumption of wounded or dead prey. But if you have some prairie chicken rooting around in waist-high prairie grass and dirt looking for a 1/8" diam. piece of lead shot to hungrily gobble up, I'm sorry, that bird gets what's coming. And how many of those tasty lead morsels does it have to ingest to become a problem?
 

JamesBondo

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you are being lied to. it is virtually impossible for a round to fall flat in a fire then hit someone in a tent. the trajectory is too flat and low to the ground and there is nothing flat about a fire pit.

furthermore, the fire dept video demonstrates that entire boxes can be detonated and not one would do what you are claiming.

face the facts, your brother sold you a bullshit sandwich and you gobbled it up.
 

Curious Cdn

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you are being lied to. it is virtually impossible for a round to fall flat in a fire then hit someone in a tent. the trajectory is too flat and low to the ground and there is nothing flat about a fire pit.

furthermore, the fire dept video demonstrates that entire boxes can be detonated and not one would do what you are claiming.

face the facts, your brother sold you a bullshit sandwich and you gobbled it up.

Boy, you're not too bright, are you? When you throw a cartridge in a fire, the cartridge explodes and projectile AND DEBRIS FROM THE CASING, (inaccurately called "shrapnel") goes flying in all directions. A cartridge fired in the breech of a weapon is tightly constrained and does not fly apart but it's just like a brass firecracker out in the open.

The kid who's tendon was severed is named Earl, and if he is still alive, he is now 68.

If my brother "sold" me the story, he also "sold" it to the investigating police who came to the door as well as to the entire West Island district Scout leadership.

You, buddy, are a kook.
 

JamesBondo

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Boy, you're not too bright, are you? When you throw a cartridge in a fire, the cartridge explodes and projectile AND DEBRIS FROM THE CASING, (inaccurately called "shrapnel") goes flying in all directions. A cartridge fired in the breech of a weapon is tightly constrained and does not fly apart but it's just like a brass firecracker out in the open.

The kid who's tendon was severed is named Earl, and if he is still alive, he is now 68.

If my brother "sold" me the story, he also "sold" it to the investigating police who came to the door as well as to the entire West Island district Scout leadership.

You, buddy, are a kook.

clearly you are gullible. The bullet from an uncontained cartridge did not fly with precision just inches above the ground to severe a tendon. he has a better chance of being struck by lightning during a sunny day.