So, you think that the police (such as the FBI) are a-okay with everyone they meet carrying guns?
Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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So, you think that the police (such as the FBI) are a-okay with everyone they meet carrying guns?
This is gun control
Grizzly bear shot dead inside Kimberley home - British Columbia - CBC News
A B.C. family is grateful to be alive after waking up to find a hungry grizzly bear feasting in their kitchen.
Mark Traverse of Kimberley, B.C., shot and killed a grizzly bear in his kitchen after the family dog's non-stop barking woke his wife up early on Sunday morning. (Niki Traverse)
When Niki Traverse's small Jack Russell terrier Sid wouldn't stop barking at 5 a.m. Sunday, she knew something was wrong.
"My dog was at our bedroom door going crazy. Losing his mind. I've never heard him bark like that," said Traverse, who lives in the small mountain community with her husband and 13-year-old son. Kimberley is in southeastern B.C.'s Kootenay region.
So she put on her robe and went to see what was going on.
When she stepped in to the kitchen Traverse saw the outline of a large male grizzly bear.
It had pushed in a screen and climbed through a window which the family had left open because of the warm weather.
"It started eating cat food and dog food. Didn't even touch the garbage," she said.
Kitchen confrontation
She ran back to the bedroom to grab her husband Mark, who got his hunting rifle, which he keeps in the bedroom. Their son was asleep in his room, just steps away.
"I went to the kitchen, turned the light on and where the bear was, he came at me and I took a shot," Mark said.
"By the time I reloaded the gun, he took a step more towards me, and I took another shot and he hit the floor, and he was still moving, so put another one in him, and that was the end of him."
Conservation officers showed up a few hours later and identified the bear as a 15-year-old grizzly that had been in poor health and malnourished.
Wonder if his firearm or ammunition were properly stored???
Gawd when you miss a point, you sure do miss it whether on purpose or because you are natural obtuse.....so I underlined it for you.
Laws are to be applied with common sense.....something you seem to be missing in your obsession....
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I doubt it.
Imo, there are lawful citizens, possibly leftist urban dwellers, that have no safety training, and lack the culture of safety and responsibility that comes from having responsible role models around you.
I think the old gal has you tuned out.
She has been trained to drive by
And the FBI is the best collector of stats?? I don't think so. All I can do is give you the best statistics, so if you believe your source is better than mine....go for it.
I love saying "I told you so", although even i would be upset. if something serious happened after all 170% odds are pretty high............well maybe a shot in the foot might slow the hoof and mouth disease for a bit..
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Actually, you might understand with an analogy. You are talking about the mortality rate of insulin dependant type 1 diabetics, and I am merely showing how flawed your talking point is by reminding you of the mortality rate of insulin dependant diabetic that don't take insulin. The fact remains, insulin is the best way to save lives.
Much like the FBI's statement about the firearm remaining the most effective way to defend a persons life. What part of it do you not understand?
Much like the FBI's statement about the firearm remaining the most effective way to defend a persons life. What part of it do you not understand?
Here is just how suck and twisted gun culture has become in the U.S.
Heavily Armed 'Oath Keepers' Arrive in Riot-Hit Ferguson
Heavily Armed 'Oath Keepers' Arrive in Riot-Hit Ferguson
What part of the link I posted do you not understand?? It has nothing to do with diabetes which is a disease. Are you really inferring being shot by a gun is like having Diabetes??
The risks of owning and keeping guns is far higher than not keeping one in the home. Of course a gun is a fine way to defend a person BUT the mortality amongst those owning and keeping guns for defense is proportionally much higher than in homes where there are no guns. These are facts.
The risks of owning and keeping guns is far higher than not keeping one in the home. Of course a gun is a fine way to defend a person BUT the mortality amongst those owning and keeping guns for defense is proportionally much higher than in homes where there are no guns. These are facts.
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You are just repeating what I've already addressed twice. Do you really want to go over this again? A gun in my closet or in my jacket does not increase my risk of being attacked. It is not a bad luck charm with a special magnet for crime.. now go back and read the part about effective self defense.
Well your version of facts anyway.
Here's a fun fact for you. There has been a loaded rifle hang over the door of every house I have lived in since I was a baby. That would make four generations and not a single accident. I know quite a few people that grew up the same way and none of them has ever had a gun accident either.
Your source of stats is flawed. It is done by a government agency that is charged with the protection of the public. Of course they would say a gun is the best defense, considering they deal mainly with criminals toting guns. FBI stats are not based on country wide civilian experiences or results. They are based on the Agency's experiences only.
An independent study like II posted, is researched from the public view-point, experiences of those NOT involved in apprehending criminals . It tells tells an entirely different story. The average person does not walk around expecting to be killed, particularly in their own homes. These stats which focussed on civilians, that are not involved law enforcement nor members of the military and presents an entirely different picture.
What idiotic behavior. My children would have had that gun down lickey split and probably have shot themselves. My son took the hinges off a padlocked cupboard door when he was 6,, and that was only done because he wanted the chocolate chips I kept in there. It appears my children were very much quicker and creative than the average. Or maybe not, considering how many children in the US are killed or injured by guns ievery year.
Well I guess we can all live in glass houses but with your thinking mankind would still be huddling in caves afraid of their shadow .
So what you are saying is mankind has not evolved since the cave man era?? Is the only improvement humans have made over the centuries is in the weapons department?
I guess in many cases that is true, since the death rate of children is higher than the soldiers killed in Afghanistan from guns. (US) As I said, Canada's gun laws are fine, and most modern people in Canada do not want the same system of ?gun control used in the US.
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Have you forgotten that the system that you are so desparate to change is enjoying some 30 year lows in crime stats? And, this is happening in tandem to record firearms sales.
!The death rate of children drowned in residential swimming pools is 14 times greater. If you were serious about saving the lives of children, why don't you have Walmart take their swimming pools off the shelves? Owning your own swimming pool is not a right. if law abiding abiding citizen wants to swim, they should go to a beach or a community swimming pool.
No I am saying mankind developed from the cave man era by creating superior weapons .
How about, they developed from cave men by creating farming and the resultant permanent settlents.
It's notable that paleolithic archeological sites are totally lacking in evidence of warfare. That came along later.
New Study of Prehistoric Skeletons Undermines Claim that War Has Deep Evolutionary Roots - Cross-Check - Scientific American Blog Network
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Proving your kids are stupid and poorly trained. That reflects on the lack of your parenting skills.
I won't go into the longer life expectancy enjoyed by the improvements of mankind but will comment on your second point. The death rate in children may well be higher than soldiers killed in Afghanistan, but not by guns. Between 1999 and 2007 in the US, 259 children suffered accidental firearm death, or 32 per state, a tragedy for sure, but accounts for only one per cent of all accidental deaths for children of that age group.
Another fun fact; 2013, that last year for which stats are available there were 131 "firearms related" homicides in Canada, out of a total of 505. I quoted the last because it has been revealed that Stats Canada uses "Firearms related" any time a firearm is available or in the vicinity, it doesn't need to be actually used to be included in the stats. In any case, the total homicide rate was down from 543 in 2012, a year after the long gun registry was repealed.
That could be pretty close to death caused by doctor malpractice, which is pretty high, in the US at least. Maybe we should regulate and register doctors, oh... right, never mind.
Wow, we must be related, I have cousins like you with kids like yours. We invite them to our homes at Christmas and Thanks Giving out of courtesy hoping beyond hope that you don't show up. We are the ones that talk about you when you're not there, even the kids, (not yours), wonder WTF? We just say, "be nice, but hide all the sharp objects, flammables, combustibles, and yes, firearms, flatten the tires on the tractors if you have to, they walk among us and will put us in a world of hurt if allowed to get their hands on anything not made of soft material".
Have my kids gotten into trouble? Sure, but they learned limits, and consequences, which were usually immediate, possibly painful but not permanent, its called parenting. Better than learning the hard way.
Just as an offside, my oldest daughter took the courses for both classes of firearms and bought her first, no, not a redneck gun, but a Mosin Nagant, made in 1928 in Tula Russia. It didn't come with a matching bayonet but being made during peace time is of a better quality than those which did have matching bayonets manufactured during times of conflict that were available. We have yet to try it out as she bought it just before leaving work in Kyrgystan and isn't back yet.
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