Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[bluebyrd35]

You most definitely do not see both sides.

If this was a discussion about warfarin, you would be calling it a pesticide that is designed specifically to kill rodents.

And, by doing so, you would be offending all people that use warfarin to prevent heart attack, stroke, and blood clots in veins.



I didn't. But you did. How can an intelligent, open minded person not come up with a basic calculation like 31,000/365 days=84.9 ( ie about 80 guns)? You are not here for a logical, intelligent discussion, are you?

Nope I wouldn't. Did you not notice where I said I worked??

Please I gave you the amount of the population. I gave you the amount of people killed a DAY. 318,881,991 and 3.5 fatalities a day. It amounts to 31,881 people dead in a year. To claim all those people were killed by 80 guns is ludicrous. Besides who cares about how many guns it takes to kill 31,000 plus people. It is the people that matter not the bloody guns.

By your calculation the 80 guns were per DAY which put the guns used at 29,800 a year. Try again divide the population by 100,000 and then multiple that by 3.5 and it comes out a gun per fatality ergo 31,881. Maybe you could shave a bit off with mass shootings, but no way do 80 guns come close.

No wonder you don't understand the ratio of guns to killing of people, your math leaves a lot to be desired, in fact it is lousy.

 

[JamesBondo]

Are you really that obtuse? The only person talking 80 guns per year is you, and Yes! You are being ludicrous.

And, now you are calling 80 guns per day a calculation that is far off?

1 - it is no where as far off as your 80 per year.
2 - 80 per day is a calculation I did without a calculator, which is only 4, less than 5 off
3 - don't even presume to lecture me or anyone else on ratios, because when you look at 31k vs millions of defensive gun uses, you can not ignore this ratio and then stubbornly reject the 80per day figure.

Bluebyrd, I have enjoyed correcting you in the past because you are an easy target when you don't think your posts through. But now I am being to think you are deliberately screwing up your posts. What do you hope to gain? Do you believe that you can pull the hood over the eyes of people reading your posts? Is that truly your goal? Is that truly your assessment of their reading comprehension skills?

This is my last post to you when you behave this way. No one is so dumb that I should have to explain things to you 3 times. In the future, your lack of comprehension will not be accepted as a counter point.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

"You should never argue with a crazy ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-man."

--Billy Joel

 

[bluebyrd35]

QUOTE "No matter what your emotions tell you what the purpose of an object is, the real purpose of an object is based on what that object is used to do most of the time. Today tens of thousands of guns were used for other purposes than to kill while only 80 or so were used to kill here in the US."

Excuse me but what the heck are you saying here. How does that equate to 31000 deaths by gun in a years equate to 80 guns????? How do you compute the uses of those other thousands of guns every day. This is only the deaths and does not include assaults, robberies, hold-ups and suicides. I don't give a f@ck how creatively or innocuous you claim the rest of all those guns were used. What is the matter with you??

People like you would attack a doctor, dentist, lawyer or any other professional, if they cause A DEATH. It does not seem to make a snowflake in a snowstorm difference to you, and others here, how many people, including children, women and the elderly, loose their lives as long as you get to caress your firearms and shoot it off every so often!!.

By the way 365 x 3.5 equals 31

 

[JLM]

By the way 365 x 3.5 equals 31

That new math always did baffle me.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

That new math always did baffle me.

You gotta carry the 4.

 

[DaSleeper]

Happy hour starts early at her house....

 

[JamesBondo]

What a minute. I've been doing this wrong!

 

[DaSleeper]

new math!

 

[bluebyrd35]

What a minute. I've been doing this wrong!

Ah but you know, don't you, that I get so fed up with the twisted outlook some here have, I am surprised I am able to mostly make sense. The idea that the deaths of so many people is nothing compared with the idea that Americans', right to bear arms with no control terrifying, more so, because they are held, mostly by Canadians.

Try and tell me now, how come you, and others found it much smarter to go for the math rather than answer why imposing better controls on Americans, by their government,to acquire weapons with very little control. I, now of course realize, that none of you were smart enough to add the zeros you knew should have been there. After all they were there in my other posts, right!!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Ah but you know, don't you, that I get so fed up with the twisted outlook some here have, I am surprised I am able to mostly make sense. The idea that the deaths of so many people is nothing compared with the idea that Americans', right to bear arms with no control terrifying, more so, because they are held, mostly by Canadians.

Try and tell me now, how come you, and others found it much smarter to go for the math rather than answer why imposing better controls on Americans, by their government,to acquire weapons with very little control. I, now of course realize, that none of you were smart enough to add the zeros you knew should have been there. After all they were there in my other posts, right!!

So, your erroneous results are OUR fault?

OK, sure.

 

[DaSleeper]

Ah but you know, don't you, that I get so fed up with the twisted outlook some here have, I am surprised I am able to mostly make sense. The idea that the deaths of so many people is nothing compared with the idea that Americans', right to bear arms with no control terrifying, more so, because they are held, mostly by Canadians.

Try and tell me now, how come you, and others found it much smarter to go for the math rather than answer why imposing better controls on Americans, by their government,to acquire weapons with very little control. I, now of course realize, that none of you were smart enough to add the zeros you knew should have been there. After all they were there in my other posts, right!!

That's the way your wheels spin...in a nut shell.......or your head......
How about you draw me a circle, and put the numbers 1 to 12 on it......like a clock?

 

[bluebyrd35]

So, your erroneous results are OUR fault?

OK, sure.

Yup just like all the ones I had to correct are yours. One to 4 to 5 of is a pretty good average on my part.

I do notice that you are still stuck on the math rather than the victims. Typical!!

 

[JamesBondo]

Yup just like all the ones I had to correct are yours. One to 4 to 5 of is a pretty good average on my part.

I do notice that you are still stuck on the math rather than the victims. Typical!!

I do notice that you are stuck on the gun rather than the victim. Otherwise, you would favor an all out ban on residential pools to save 14 times more children than a ban on guns.

Bluebyrd, if it saves just one more child, wouldn't it be worth it. Please answer yes or no.

 

[DaSleeper]

I do notice that you are stuck on the gun rather than the victim. Otherwise, you would favor an all out ban on residential pools to save 14 times more children than a ban on guns.

Bluebyrd, if it saves just one more child, wouldn't it be worth it. Please answer yes or no.

I see a deflection coming!

 

[JamesBondo]

Yes or no, bluebyrd. Show some balls.

 

[pgs]

Yes or no, bluebyrd. Show some balls.

Most of the kids getting shot maimed and or killed out here in Surrey B.C. are gang bangers shot with unregistered hand guns .

 

[bluebyrd35]

Are you serious??? Neat demand but I ain't falling for it.

Where do you stop?? Baby cribs have also killed many children over the years, much like falling out of windows, and in car accidents. You know, they fixed the cribs, put bars on the windows and put in seat bels and laws regarding car seats.

However, GUNS were developed for one purpose.......TO KILL.....not to swim, sleep in, look out of and to get from one place to another. Some people may target practice to more accurately hit what they are aiming for, which is to hit and KILL people and animals.

You would ban swimming pools to save a couple of children but not institute gun control laws to save so many more. So which of us is more concerned about guns or victims.??

Gun deaths in children: Statistics show firearms endanger kids despite NRA safety programs.


"The United States accounts for nearly 75 percent of all children murdered in the developed world. Children between the ages of 5 and 14 in the United States are 17 times more likely to be murdered by firearms than children in other industrialized nations."

Yes or no, bluebyrd. Show some balls.

By the way have you stopped beating your wife???? YES or NO only....

 

[JLM]

By the way have you stopped beating your wife???? YES or NO only....

That one's been around for 60 years that I know of!

 

[DaSleeper]

Ironic, that killing machines such as guns actually kill less people than swimming pools, cars, etc. etc. and even doctors...:roll:



And let's not forget ladders....;-)