Gun Control is Completely Useless.

bluebyrd35

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That one's been around for 60 years that I know of!
Ah but every twit tries a different version every so often.

Ironic, that killing machines such as guns actually kill less people than swimming pools, cars, etc. etc. and even doctors...:roll:



And let's not forget ladders....;-)
So does old age, but should we all commit suicide before getting too old. It is not practical to get rid of cars, swimming pools, windows in all buildings over 1 floor, cribs for children, TV's (as I realize more than a couple of children have pulled them down on themselves, ladders, planes), but the same criteria does not apply to guns. Cell phones are now killing not just children but all ages, wouldn't that bring about a change of government by riot in a hurry if there were a ban put on them. LOL. There is no sense in NOT instituting a decent gun control set of laws in the US. Aside from the NRA which is coming into disrepute, this would not disturb very many Americans. Oh and a few envious Canadian gun owners, who hope our Government may weaken our laws.
 

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I don't have a problem with guns being registered. I think everybody who buys one should have a full police background check, mental heath certification and a 'cooling off' period. And I think the gun make, model and ballistics should be recorded in a central database.

I predict such measures will make apprehension and conviction easier for police in a small percentage of the cases. But it will not deter any crimes and will not do anything about the vast pool of unregistered, illegal weapons floating about and used by criminals.
 

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I don't have a problem with guns being registered. I think everybody who buys one should have a full police background check, mental heath certification and a 'cooling off' period. And I think the gun make, model and ballistics should be recorded in a central database.

I predict such measures will make apprehension and conviction easier for police in a small percentage of the cases. But it will not deter any crimes and will not do anything about the vast pool of unregistered, illegal weapons floating about and used by criminals.
Well take a look at Australia's results. Rather impressive!! To lower deaths by guns by 35 to 50% is great.

Did gun control work in Australia? - The Washington Post

You do like to hear yourself babble pure nonsense don't you?......
How about a drawing of that clock OK?
See sleepy, life is not over when gun control is put in place. Keep on trying to express yourself.
 

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JamesBondo

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Listen, you really need to work on your comprehension skills. My post was very clear, no babbling whatever.

JLM, Why??


Seeing as how I worked in an ED for about 30 years, believe me, I do not need brainwashing by pro "NO RULES" on guns for Canadians. I see both sides and I, like the majority of Canadians are quite okay with Canadian gun laws.

How do you figure 80 guns only were used to kill 31,000 plus people?? How can an intelligent, open minded person come up with those numbers?? Whose emotions are involved in the possibility of losing their favorite, deadly toys, because they can't or won't go for decent laws to control the use of them??
ED? As in special ED? A place where 365/3.5=31 and everyone agrees?
 

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Ironic, that killing machines such as guns actually kill less people than swimming pools, cars, etc. etc. and even doctors...:roll:



And let's not forget ladders....;-)

How about terrorists? How much of a danger do terrorists pose to you?
 

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I don't have a problem with guns being registered. I think everybody who buys one should have a full police background check, mental heath certification and a 'cooling off' period. And I think the gun make, model and ballistics should be recorded in a central database.

I predict such measures will make apprehension and conviction easier for police in a small percentage of the cases. But it will not deter any crimes and will not do anything about the vast pool of unregistered, illegal weapons floating about and used by criminals.

That's right.
 

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Australia? lol I am pretty sure that there weren't a whole lot of Aussies afraid of being shot to death when they still had guns.

Australian Institute of Criminology - Homicide statistics

All it seems to have done there is make an awful lot of farmers and ranchers pissed off. As far as I can tell, a person stood a bigger chance of dying from a fall than by gunfire in Oz. Mostly what kills people over there is disease.
 

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Australia's gun inventory is back up to pre-buyback levels, but the crime isn't.

I guess Bluebyrd would have to conclude that the new firearms are designed differently. LOL. Theses one are not designed to kill as often.
 

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Australia's gun inventory is back up to pre-buyback levels, but the crime isn't.

I guess Bluebyrd would have to conclude that the new firearms are designed differently. LOL. Theses one are not designed to kill as often.
Possibly because with tighter controls, fewer criminals and nuts are able to get guns.

Some people think some controls are a good idea. I disagree, but I'm willing to hear 'em out.
 

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Cold, Canuck Hands

By Kate on August 18, 2015 7:40 AM | 17 Comments

Effective September 2, 2015, these changes to the Firearms Act will come into force:

The elimination of the Possession Only Licence (POL) and conversion of all existing POLs to Possession and Acquisition Licences (PALs); and The Authorization to Transport (ATT) becoming a condition of a licence for certain routine and lawful activities.

h/t Zippo the Squirrel
I am neither pleased nor upset about those changes. When one has to dispose of a gun collection, finding a person with right documentation to transport them from an empty private home to another, was difficult. I called the police to find out the procedure and the agent said they were the only ones outside of a registered gun dealer who could do this. When I asked what the guarantees were that the collection would be intact on arrival, he laughed and more or less said some might be missing.

The collection got moved intact but not by the police. So, really, any changes Canadian laws are okay as long as they are workable and safe.

Can't draw that clock..... hey Breezy?
Not can't, Why would I do something you want me to?? Got better things to do with my time (Clock(

Australia's gun inventory is back up to pre-buyback levels, but the crime isn't.

I guess Bluebyrd would have to conclude that the new firearms are designed differently. LOL. Theses one are not designed to kill as often.
Come on .....keep up......Quit being sooo dense. It only proves what I have been saying all along!! Good gun control laws Work and a program such as Australia is needed in the US. You keep assuming that I am totally against guns. I am not, anymore than I am against swimming pools, cars, baby cribs, or windows, I AM NOT. I am simply in favor of decent laws.

Gun Control Laws have nothing do do with banning guns, it has to do with how they are stored, transported, and used.......preferably by those without mental disease, criminal records or those who's mental age is too low to understand how dangerous they are. So quit being such an @ss and acknowledge I have proven every single statement I have made in favor of decent gun control laws.

Australia: A society that brought in tight gun controls - CNN.com
 

JamesBondo

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Come on .....keep up......Quit being sooo dense. There are no trends or stats that suggest that Canada's Gun control laws have positively influenced our the wonderfully lower gun death rates. All you have to go by is a comparison to the US. How obtuse and unscientific.
 

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Everybody ignores demographics.....the elephant in the room.

Not can't, Why would I do something you want me to?? Got better things to do with my time (Clock(
Being a medical secretary and all, you would know that
It would prove that you're not senile in spite of what you write....
They must have had that test......wwwway back in your day.;-)
 
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bluebyrd35

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Come on .....keep up......Quit being sooo dense. There are no trends or stats that suggest that Canada's Gun control laws have positively influenced our the wonderfully lower gun death rates. All you have to go by is a comparison to the US. How obtuse and unscientific.
You obviously did not even look at the link I posted. There is a graph there showing Australia's success. Now if the US media accepts the Australian figures what is your problem with them??

Everybody ignores demographics.....the elephant in the room.


Being a medical secretary and all, you would know that
It would prove that you're not senile in spite of what you write....
They must have had that test......wwwway back in your day.;-)
What do you in your confused state think this thread is about?? It is not about me, it is about gun control. It would be nice if you stuck to the subject and quit making personal remarks about my age, my intellect or my mental status, It gets really boring and repetitive. It only points out how little you have to contribute.
 

JamesBondo

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You obviously did not take any sort of research analysis training. You can not make conclusions about Canada without actually looking at the rates and trending in Canada. Anything else is pure speculation.
 

bluebyrd35

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You obviously did not take any sort of research analysis training. You can not make conclusions about Canada without actually looking at the rates and trending in Canada. Anything else is pure speculation.
Huh??? What on earth are you talking about? I have reiterated time and time again, that I am fine with Canadian gun control laws. I have also said time and time again that the US needs the same sort of control laws. All I have gotten from you people is flack about every kind of off the wall reasons why they should not.......All the way from the flawed interpretation of the US constitution to banning swimming pools.

Just to remind you that I gave you stats about Australia from that country's stats by CNN. So exactly where does Canada's record come into it. And furthermore, if you look back, I agreed with the law change involving moving guns from one place to another, without involving the police or registered dealers.

You seem to have mixed up this thread with some other one you are involved with because that last post makes no sense in this one.