There is no insurance for drunk driving or stunting and especially none for leaving the keys in the damn thing.
There is no life insurance for smoking, overdose or suicide.
Why insure those from the shallow end of the gene pool?
Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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There is no life insurance for smoking, overdose or suicide.
Why insure those from the shallow end of the gene pool?
Oooooooooooooh, oooooooooooooh Petros- In my relatively short time on the planet I've generally found it dangerous to speculate on someone's intelligence.
Keeping arms is not a "hobby". Not for me, anyway. And, btw, I'm sitting in my "man cave"When I look over my left shoulder I see 3 gun safes, locked and secure.....downstairs is the keypad to my alarm system.....
Yeah whatever it's a hobby dude.
Do you leave them in the car in the driveway over night? How about in the car when you've gone out to run some errands or visit people at the hospital where you will not need a gun for any reason? Do you leave them loaded sitting by the front door?
Yeah maybe that's because you consider the back yard a range. Not quite quick draw. A range is a building, of which there are plenty in Ontario, that are completely inside. Not just the old gravel pit or abandoned mine. Strict rules there too, so probably a duffer like you wouldn't be able to get a membership and hold on to it for very long. Rules and all.
Tells me that you are not only out of touch with your sport but that you aren't even half the "gun guru" you claim to be.
Just a couple of years ago, there were plenty of ranges right here in Toronto. They just kicked them out of town with the last mayor and I can see them returning with the new mayor. Last I checked, down town Toronto wasn't all that rural. I think you're all wet when it comes to shooting ranges.
The point you obviously chose to skip over is that any building can be made burglar proof. Shooting ranges where all guns should be kept, signed in and out of, can and should be made and monitored so that no thieves can break in and steal the firearms within, thus doing away with your ridiculous argument against them.
Yes quite drawl, but stupid as usual. Gun nuts like you do everything you can to thwart the system that police chiefs across the country endorse as helpful in reducing murders. Again this action re-enforces the notion that you aren't much of a law abiding gun owner at all.
I'm not the one who needs the gun to protect myself from the big bad scary world. That's you. Typical of the lamebrain wingnut who is either loathing or in fear of those around him. Pretending that shooting someone for the slightest of transgressions is the ultimate in freedom doesn't mean the reality is the least bit desirable. You aren't some western quick draw artist and this isn't Dodge City.
I've met many well papered idiots in my time. As I said, as far as I am concerned, from what you have said here, you aren't qualified to holster a peashooter.
Even ones that use guns stolen or used by the family member of some moron who should have locked them up?
How many teens blow their brains out with dad's unlocked weapons?
How many teens blow their brains out with dad's unlocked weapons?
Most of the teen suicides around here are either car 'accidents' or hanging. Not many suicides by gunshot in the teenage group in this neck of the woods, so I think Colpy's guns are safe.
I do remember a few years ago a friend of mine who is a GP came home from a call to a home where the gentleman had used a shotgun to commit suicide. When the GP friend arrived home, his wife treated him to a plate of spaghetti and tomato sauce....he just about threw up right then and there.
Even those that know about rifles and shotguns:smile:
Many years ago, this guy I worked with in the mill, even though he was a hunter, was dead set against handguns. I had just bought this new .357 Ruger and a set of loading dies for it and was discussing the loading specs with another handloader, when this guy came in the smoking area and started railing against handguns.
So I told him, don't knock it until you try it, and challenged him to come shooting with us at the club, the next shooting night.
I had this sweet little target pistol, a .22 Vostok Margolin, front sight adjustable for elevation, rear for windage adjustable trigger pull and weights for balance.
Well, the guy turned out to be a natural.....The first target at 20 yards he put all ten on the paper. And he gradually got better until the fifth target he shot an 82.
Made a convert with that one....he was a regular guest, borrowing pistols from different shooters when I wasn't there until he bought one of his own and then the guys with carrying permits would transport it for him until he got his own permit a few months after.
Don't leave them in the car overnight......I might leave one in the trunk anywhere, if I happened to be stopping there on my way out of town........don't leave them loaded by the back door either, but when people DID typically have a loaded rifle hanging over the door, home invasions were unheard of........
OHHH, you live in Toronto. That explains a lot. First of all, it is extremely obvious you don't have a clue what you are talking about. I used to be President of a local gun club, and I helped make the damn rules. I was also trainer and range officer for an armoured car company, where I taught people how to use shotguns and handguns to defend their lives........on a "hot" range (where people carry loaded weapons in holster, and draw, shoot and move), and any range I'm running is damned well safe. Out here, away from the imagined centre of the universe, members of gun clubs go there to shoot shotguns and rifles at least as often as handguns. The use of a centre-fire rifle requires a 5 km safe zone behind the target berms........thus a rural address is a prerequisite..........
Not unmanned, and not for anything approaching a reasonable cost, and even THAT couldn't prevent theft...........most gun clubs here have around a hundred members...........I think a million bucks to build your vault is a little over the top.
Police Chiefs are control freak politicials.....you have heard of Bill Blair, haven't you? I suggest you consider the concept of living in a country controled by him and his buddies.....there is a reason the worst states on earth are known as "police states"
If you had the slightest clue what you are talking about, you would know that I am FAR from paranoid.........I am not the fearful one, you are the one peeing in their panties at the thought someone might have a gun........ I'm sure irrational fear of inanimate objects has a place in the list of psychiatric disorders.......
That little piece on the left's scorn of the people they claim to speak for touched a nerve, didn't it??????
The truth hurts.
I don't need anyone's "paper" to know I'm more than competent........as is anyone I've trained.
As for suicide...four points.
1. Anti-gunners LOVE suicide stats..........as they wildly inflate the "death by gun" red herring they constantly use to try and force their cultural norms on the rest of us. Yet, despite Canada's strict gun laws, and despite the decline in suicide by gun caused in part by those laws......the suicide rate overall remains the same. So, explain why someone is less dead if they throw themselves off a bridge rather than shoot themselves????
2. If guns cause suicide, and the USA is the prime example of a gun-crazed society, please explain why our suicide rate is higher than that in the USA?????
3. Oddly enough, the same lefties that support severe restrictions on my rights because someone might commit suicide often support euthanasia and "right to die" legislation...........weird.
4. I do really resent the fact that people would earnestly and severely restrict my freedom because some moron would stick a loaded gun in his mouth and try to pull the trigger twice.
So, IMHO any serious discussion of firearms law should not include suicide as a factor.
1. Anti-gunners LOVE suicide stats..........as they wildly inflate the "death by gun" red herring they constantly use to try and force their cultural norms on the rest of us. Yet, despite Canada's strict gun laws, and despite the decline in suicide by gun caused in part by those laws......the suicide rate overall remains the same. So, explain why someone is less dead if they throw themselves off a bridge rather than shoot themselves????
2. If guns cause suicide, and the USA is the prime example of a gun-crazed society, please explain why our suicide rate is higher than that in the USA?????
3. Oddly enough, the same lefties that support severe restrictions on my rights because someone might commit suicide often support euthanasia and "right to die" legislation...........weird.
4. I do really resent the fact that people would earnestly and severely restrict my freedom because some moron would stick a loaded gun in his mouth and try to pull the trigger twice.
So, IMHO any serious discussion of firearms law should not include suicide as a factor.
Be responsible and lock up your **** Colpy. You can only blame people like yourself for having this come down on you.
QUOTE=Colpy.
If guns cause suicide, and the USA is the prime example of a gun-crazed society, please explain why our suicide rate is higher than that in the USA?????
Vitamin D deficiencies aka Rickets aka lack of sunshine.. Want to know something about Rickets? It hits darker skinned people worse than caucasians which bounces right back at the statistic of break and enters and gun crimes. If you want something good to do with your guns get hunting tags max your limits and donate it all.
3. Oddly enough, the same lefties that support severe restrictions on my rights because someone might commit suicide often support euthanasia and "right to die" legislation...........weird.
If the overwhelmingly Zionist lefties (69% voted left last election) want to kill your unborn children and kill you grand parents and disarm you so badly why are you so willing to arm them with combat weapons?
4. I do really resent the fact that people would earnestly and severely restrict my freedom because some moron would stick a loaded gun in his mouth and try to pull the trigger twice.
So, IMHO any serious discussion of firearms law should not include suicide as a factor.
Access to guns are UNQUESTIONABLY INVOLVED in gun suicides.
IMHO opinion you have sucker stamped on your forehead and only have yourself to blame.
QUOTE=Colpy.
If guns cause suicide, and the USA is the prime example of a gun-crazed society, please explain why our suicide rate is higher than that in the USA?????
Vitamin D deficiencies aka Rickets aka lack of sunshine.. Want to know something about Rickets? It hits darker skinned people worse than caucasians which bounces right back at the statistic of break and enters and gun crimes. If you want something good to do with your guns get hunting tags max your limits and donate it all.
3. Oddly enough, the same lefties that support severe restrictions on my rights because someone might commit suicide often support euthanasia and "right to die" legislation...........weird.
If the overwhelmingly Zionist lefties (69% voted left last election) want to kill your unborn children and kill you grand parents and disarm you so badly why are you so willing to arm them with combat weapons?
4. I do really resent the fact that people would earnestly and severely restrict my freedom because some moron would stick a loaded gun in his mouth and try to pull the trigger twice.
So, IMHO any serious discussion of firearms law should not include suicide as a factor.
Access to guns are UNQUESTIONABLY INVOLVED in gun suicides.
IMHO opinion you have sucker stamped on your forehead and only have yourself to blame.
Did in the story did. You justify it by saying anyone can make a mistake and that no one is perfect like me. How stupid can you get?
Yes of course if you live in Toronto, you don't know anything. :roll: Sure it's not the reading capital of Canada like New Brunswick, or whatever butthole you live in, but we still try our best to keep up with the times.
You know, that's one of the things that just keeps coming back to bust your balls. You constantly underestimate people. Like maybe I don't know what centre fire ammunition is or a "Hot" range. None of it is relevant to the topic. You can bet there are more gun clubs here than the province you live in. Not that it matters.
Because like your gun nut friends who try to save the government money by not registering firearms, you choose not to make it theft proof. If owning guns is too expensive for you, don't own guns. Owning a jet would be a nice hobby but since I can't afford it, I don't own one. I've learned to deal with it, so can you.
Not really police though are they? No more like a militia I would say. Like what you seem to think the second amendment is all about. Police chiefs are control freaks and that is why we have laws that protect people from them when they abuse their power. Just like the laws that are supposed to help protect people from violent people who get ahold of guns. It's a shame that you feel they aren't worth abiding the law for.
Are you kidding? You're one of the most paranoid people on this board. You think the suggestion of a trigger lock is the government kicking down your door to take all your penis... I mean guns away. You're sure that someone is just waiting to see you drop your guard to invade your home, rape and kill the wife and kiddies and steal all the god damn guns.
I'm not scared someone might have a gun in Toronto. Lots of people in Toronto have guns. I am scared of the fuked up violent gangbanger unloading a couple of clips on Yonge St, again while me or my family is out shopping.
It sure does, especially when you turn to a left wing idea like public health care, or social safety net when you shyte gets all fuked up. Quietly you go then eh mate? lol
No one gives a shyte what you think you know.
And for the record I don't know of any reasonable person who would want to get rid of all the guns. Just that they are kept out of the wrong hands which the loony wingnut gun happy kooks like you can't even fathom.
Colpy, everyone says your range sucks!
Torontoski, oi vey dats a long vays, did you drove or did you flew?
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If you had the slightest clue what you are talking about, you would know that I am FAR from paranoid
Is that pronounced faaar?
How unfortunate for you! My condolences........
How would I know that you know? And, other people read this stuff that don't know.
If one had to spend millions on storage facilities, it would be too expensive for all but the very rich.....that takes us backwatd about 400 years.
Huh???? What YOU want is to give them laws so they can abuse their power even more........you know, like the Firearms Act.
I have never said any such thing, in fact I've told you I keep my weapons under lock and key.......
Which has NOTHING to do with me, or with ANY of the hundreds of shooters that I know, nor with any of the millions of licensed Canadians. If you want to take care of gang bangers, DO IT, don't bother the people that aren't.......
Huh? Who said I had anything against public health care? Or a reasonable social safety net? Neither of which are particularly "leftist" in our culture.....
Well, out of THAT entire post, only these two statements have any connection with reality........but your average is improving.
George Jonas (as usual) has it right.....
Fondle their guns?.......er.....umm....what happens in your gun locker stays in your gun locker okay?;-)
Check this out! Worth the read....an in-depth article on concealed carry of handguns in the USA....
Record numbers now licensed to pack heat - U.S. news - Life - msnbc.com
Something I found fascinating.........elsewhere the article sayes there are 6 million licensed to carry in the USA.........above it claims 139 killed by permit holders since May of 2007. The article was written in January of 2010........
That indicates a murder rate of 0.9 per 100,000 per year. For people carrying guns.
The murder rate in the USA was 5.0 per 100,000 per year in 2009.
The murder rate in Canada was 1.8 per 100,000 per year in 2009.
In other words, the murder rate of people who carry concealed handguns in the USA, in states where they MUST be issued licenses on demand, is LESS than one fifth the murder rate in the population at large, and is one half the murder rate in Canada..........
The numbers don't lie.
Gun control is useless.
Record numbers now licensed to pack heat - U.S. news - Life - msnbc.com
Something I found fascinating.........elsewhere the article sayes there are 6 million licensed to carry in the USA.........above it claims 139 killed by permit holders since May of 2007. The article was written in January of 2010........
That indicates a murder rate of 0.9 per 100,000 per year. For people carrying guns.
The murder rate in the USA was 5.0 per 100,000 per year in 2009.
The murder rate in Canada was 1.8 per 100,000 per year in 2009.
In other words, the murder rate of people who carry concealed handguns in the USA, in states where they MUST be issued licenses on demand, is LESS than one fifth the murder rate in the population at large, and is one half the murder rate in Canada..........
The numbers don't lie.
Gun control is useless.
Here it is folks.....the ACLU's stance on the Second Amendment after the SCOTUS found it to be a individual right.Complete with comments full of sarcasm, anger, and good sense...
Blog of Rights: Official Blog of the American Civil Liberties Union Heller Decision and the Second Amendment
Hilarious.
I especially loved the comment....
How does a ACLU liberal count to ten?
1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ....
lol!!!!
Blog of Rights: Official Blog of the American Civil Liberties Union Heller Decision and the Second Amendment
Hilarious.
I especially loved the comment....
How does a ACLU liberal count to ten?
1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ....
lol!!!!
Okay Okay....I know this seems to be my own personal posting spae.....but just one more.....from the lovely and charming Ms. Ann Coulter
Welcome to AnnCoulter.com
Welcome to AnnCoulter.com
Sometimes I wonder if George Jonas doesn't sometimes peruse this forum as I notice on occasion some of his columns reflect views that have been previously expressed here and on different threads of political discussions, but of course it could be purely coincidental. He often writes on this subject and categorizes the extremes of the two sides as gunophiles and gunophobes and both views are irrational and foreign to his way of thinking. I agree, I am not a lover of firearms, I do not adore and caress my firearms, but I know of some who do, they would be the gunophiles. The gunophobes are the ones who harbour a deep rooted disdain for and fear of firearms. Their opinons are not equal; where a gunophile may adore his or her, or all firearms for that matter, these folks do not compel their fellow man to share in that adoration. The gunophobe insists that we all share in their hatred and fear of firearms and will enlist the power of the state to enforce their phobia on everyone. Of course this also extends to zealots of all persuasions such as anti smoking nuts, PETA, environuts and the like, (I refer to the irrational ones, of course there is nothig rational about PETA). Where classical liberals would say, "there should be a law", modern liberals make one; they have yet to meet intrusive legislation they did not wholeheartedly embrace.
In addition to Colpy's Ann Coulter quotes there is an interesting fact regarding Virginia Tech; a bill that would have allowed qualified students and staff to carry concealed firearms on campuses was defeated and as the Roanoke Times reported, Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker welcomed its defeat, saying, "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus." Ironically this statement was made merely weeks before Chung Seung-Hui went on his rampage completely unimpeded. The majority of these things happen in "gun free zones" for that exact reason. How many of these folks feel safe now?
In addition to Colpy's Ann Coulter quotes there is an interesting fact regarding Virginia Tech; a bill that would have allowed qualified students and staff to carry concealed firearms on campuses was defeated and as the Roanoke Times reported, Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker welcomed its defeat, saying, "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus." Ironically this statement was made merely weeks before Chung Seung-Hui went on his rampage completely unimpeded. The majority of these things happen in "gun free zones" for that exact reason. How many of these folks feel safe now?
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