Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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The care one takes in cleaning his/her firearm after a day at the range, would seem like caressing your firearm to a "gunophobe"....but it is simply good maintenance;-)
Examples of NY laws.
Search N.Y. PEN. LAW § 265.00 : NY Code - Section 265.00: Definitions
As used in this article and in article four hundred, the following
terms shall mean and include:
1. "Machine-gun" means a weapon of any description, irrespective of
size, by whatever name known, loaded or unloaded, from which a number of
shots or bullets may be rapidly or automatically discharged from a
magazine with one continuous pull of the trigger and includes a
sub-machine gun.
N.Y. PEN. LAW § 265.00 : NY Code - Section 265.00: Definitions
Search N.Y. PEN. LAW § 265.00 : NY Code - Section 265.00: Definitions
As used in this article and in article four hundred, the following
terms shall mean and include:
1. "Machine-gun" means a weapon of any description, irrespective of
size, by whatever name known, loaded or unloaded, from which a number of
shots or bullets may be rapidly or automatically discharged from a
magazine with one continuous pull of the trigger and includes a
sub-machine gun.
N.Y. PEN. LAW § 265.00 : NY Code - Section 265.00: Definitions
Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, as well as Vermont's own Constitution very carefully, and his very strict interpretation of these is popping some eyeballs around New England and elsewhere. Maslack recently proposed a bill to register "non-gun-owners" and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state. Thus Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun.
Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals. Vermont's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State and those persons who are conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be required to pay such equivalent."
Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise."
Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says.
Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state. It's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
This makes sense! There is no reason why gun owners should have to pay taxes to support police protection for people not wanting to own guns. Let them contribute their fair share and pay their own way. That sounds reasonable to me! Non-gun owners require more police to protect them and this fee should go to paying for their defense! GO VERMONT! GIT 'ER
Problem solved.
Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals. Vermont's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State and those persons who are conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be required to pay such equivalent."
Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise."
Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says.
Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state. It's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
This makes sense! There is no reason why gun owners should have to pay taxes to support police protection for people not wanting to own guns. Let them contribute their fair share and pay their own way. That sounds reasonable to me! Non-gun owners require more police to protect them and this fee should go to paying for their defense! GO VERMONT! GIT 'ER
Problem solved.
I absolutely LOVE it!
Talk about turn the tables....hell, why should we be all nice and tolerant with those that disagree with us?
They sure are willing to force their views on us.......
Sign on Back door......
Sigh
I only wish they could spell.......
I always liked the one that said...
NEVER MIND THE DOG.......
BEWARE OF OWNER.
Yah, that's a good one, my step dad has that on his fence... and the obligatory "you can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hands" bumper sticker that all good NRA members have.
When I was young on the farm ....we had a rooster that wouldn't let any stranger get out of a car unless we were outside to shoo him off.:smile:
My latest conversation with gun control bureaucrats:
"Good Morning, RCMP Firearms Centre"
"Good Morning. I have a small problem. My license is broken, the actual card has broken in two, so I need it replaced."
"When does it expire?"
"Oct. 26, 2013"
"Oh. I will have to send you a form which you fill out and mail to us with your license"
"I have to send you my license?"
"Yes, we can't have two licenses out at once"
"But then I won't have a license" (and will be in violation of the law)
"That's right."
" Nevermind. You people are idiots"
Click.
"Good Morning, RCMP Firearms Centre"
"Good Morning. I have a small problem. My license is broken, the actual card has broken in two, so I need it replaced."
"When does it expire?"
"Oct. 26, 2013"
"Oh. I will have to send you a form which you fill out and mail to us with your license"
"I have to send you my license?"
"Yes, we can't have two licenses out at once"
"But then I won't have a license" (and will be in violation of the law)
"That's right."
" Nevermind. You people are idiots"
Click.
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Due to the gun registration laws we now have I had to give up my guns.
I now have 'high velocity projectile luanch mechinisms' which are not mentioned in the legislation so are just fine.
I also have a 'horizontally oriented dart launcher' since they took away crossbows as well.
I now have 'high velocity projectile luanch mechinisms' which are not mentioned in the legislation so are just fine.
I also have a 'horizontally oriented dart launcher' since they took away crossbows as well.
Good for you.
Like, what the hell is wrong with mailing out a license to the address they have listed by registered mail, thus having me sign for it........and making it clear the old license has to be destroyed????
Quicker.
Cheaper.
In full compliance with the law.
But it means I have to be treated as if I were trustworthy.....and all gun owners must be treated worse than criminals. Or made criminals by listening to the idiots from the RCMP.
"Sorry officer, I don't have my license, I mailed it to you guys."
Yeah, right.
I just know it is in the small print somewhere. Gun owners are to be treated like criminally insane children.
All gun control does is cause inconvenience for responsible firearm owners.
My firearm collection so far:
Left to Right:
.338 Winchester Magnum, laminated oak stock, top of the line Leupold scope
.270 Tikka, custom fibreglass stock, top of the line Leupold scope
M14 semi automatic rife. shoots 7.62 x 51(.308 Win)
20 gauge shotgun, holds 4 shots
12 gauge shotgun, single shot, fibreoptic sight
Gervarm semi automatic .22
.22 caliber single shot
My firearm collection so far:
Left to Right:
.338 Winchester Magnum, laminated oak stock, top of the line Leupold scope
.270 Tikka, custom fibreglass stock, top of the line Leupold scope
M14 semi automatic rife. shoots 7.62 x 51(.308 Win)
20 gauge shotgun, holds 4 shots
12 gauge shotgun, single shot, fibreoptic sight
Gervarm semi automatic .22
.22 caliber single shot
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Why don't they lead by example? Go ahead and disarm the RCMP and other police forces, and take those damn tazers away while they are at it, and I would say disarm the military too but they're actually doing okay at that, and then maybe we'll follow their lead.