Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Taxslave2

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But. . . but. . . they make TV SHOWS about how super-cool badass they are!

What, no jail time for criminal shitheadedness leading to wounding?

So much for getting tough.
I figured jail time would probably be against his/her civil rights. How about making them mall cops instead .
 

The_Foxer

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How about when you're an FBI agent showing off your moves on the dance floor (and drinking), and you do a super-cool flip and your weapon falls out of your waistband and goes off, hitting a bystander in the leg?
Well that's what you get for trusting AMERICANS with guns, canadians are much safer. We ALWAYS have someone in the crowd hold our guns before doing a backflip :)
 
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Ron in Regina

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I would impose real penalties on criminals. No more catch and release. I would also bring back capital punishment for certain crimes.
as for your giving your dads guns to the RCMP because of the paperwork involved in keeping them, this is exactly what the government is trying to achieve. The problem is that not all of those guns are disposed of. The RCMP take home the ones they want. There have been some expensive guns handed in by unknowing people.
not convinced about the registration thing because of past government actions. Registration tends to lead to confiscation.
 

Ron in Regina

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Similar incidents across the country have tested Canada’s self-defence laws and the limits of a homeowner’s right to defend their place of residence.

Jag Virk, Mian’s defence lawyer, told the Toronto Star that the intruder had a gun and was attacking Mian’s mother who lives with him.

At approximately 5 a.m. on Sunday morning, Halton Police said a group of suspects approached the house on Gibson Crescent with the intent of committing a robbery. Upon entry to the residence, the intruders were met with multiple gunshots from Ali Mian, the 22-year-old occupant of the house.

A man has been charged with second-degree murder for shooting a home invader on Feb. 19 in Milton, Ont.

Virk also said that his client’s firearm is registered. Mian called the police to request assistance after shooting one of the suspects.

Mian now faces a second-degree murder charge while Romario Clarke, a 20 year-old from Oshawa, is facing charges of breaking and entering as well as unauthorized possession of a firearm.

Sections 34 and 35 of the Criminal Code say someone is not guilty of an offence if they respond to force or threat of force against them or a person they’re protecting, or repel someone entering without permission or threatening their property. The defensive act must be “reasonable in the circumstances.”

However police have prosecuted when they believed the defender used excessive force.

Ontario lawyer Edward Burlew, who specializes in firearms-related cases, said “it has been dealt with on a very uneven basis.”

“It has been primarily driven by the individual opinions and emotions of police and prosecutors.”
 
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OPP seize pen gun during stolen vehicle chase
Four youths face charges

Author of the article:Jane Stevenson
Published Mar 17, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 1 minute read

It almost sounds like a James Bond gimmick weapon.


But no, a gun that looks just like a pen is a real, if rare, thing.


Toronto OPP officers say they took possession of one on Wednesday night while chasing four youths under the age of 18 in a stolen vehicle on Salem Rd. in Ajax.

“I’ve heard of them before, I don’t see them very often,” OPP Sgt. Kerry Schmidt said Friday of the pen gun.

“It’s strange. It’s just a single-shot, 22-calibre pistol that you wouldn’t even recognize. Totally illegal, obviously.”



All four teens face stolen property and other charges, plus one youth faces weapon offences charges. None of the accused can be named due to the Youth Criminal Justice Act.

“They were in a stolen vehicle — we boxed them in, they tried to take off,” said Schmidt. “We stopped them. They were arrested.”
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OPP seize pen gun during stolen vehicle chase
Four youths face charges

Author of the article:Jane Stevenson
Published Mar 17, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 1 minute read

It almost sounds like a James Bond gimmick weapon.


But no, a gun that looks just like a pen is a real, if rare, thing.


Toronto OPP officers say they took possession of one on Wednesday night while chasing four youths under the age of 18 in a stolen vehicle on Salem Rd. in Ajax.

“I’ve heard of them before, I don’t see them very often,” OPP Sgt. Kerry Schmidt said Friday of the pen gun.

“It’s strange. It’s just a single-shot, 22-calibre pistol that you wouldn’t even recognize. Totally illegal, obviously.”



All four teens face stolen property and other charges, plus one youth faces weapon offences charges. None of the accused can be named due to the Youth Criminal Justice Act.

“They were in a stolen vehicle — we boxed them in, they tried to take off,” said Schmidt. “We stopped them. They were arrested.”
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Looks like my bear banger .
 
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DaSleeper

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Also looks kike a flare gun I had Years ago!

with some minor modifications and using pellets instead of a single bullet made a neat close range bird gun......
 

spaminator

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OPP seize pen gun during stolen vehicle chase
Four youths face charges

Author of the article:Jane Stevenson
Published Mar 17, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 1 minute read

It almost sounds like a James Bond gimmick weapon.


But no, a gun that looks just like a pen is a real, if rare, thing.


Toronto OPP officers say they took possession of one on Wednesday night while chasing four youths under the age of 18 in a stolen vehicle on Salem Rd. in Ajax.

“I’ve heard of them before, I don’t see them very often,” OPP Sgt. Kerry Schmidt said Friday of the pen gun.

“It’s strange. It’s just a single-shot, 22-calibre pistol that you wouldn’t even recognize. Totally illegal, obviously.”



All four teens face stolen property and other charges, plus one youth faces weapon offences charges. None of the accused can be named due to the Youth Criminal Justice Act.

“They were in a stolen vehicle — we boxed them in, they tried to take off,” said Schmidt. “We stopped them. They were arrested.”
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the pen is mightier than the sword. ;)
 

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How bullets from an AR-15 blow the body apart
Author of the article:Washington Post
Washington Post
N. Kirkpatrick, Atthar Mirza and Manuel Canales, The Washington Post
Published Mar 29, 2023 • 5 minute read

The wounds show the lethal force of the AR-15, but they are rarely seen.


The gun is the weapon of choice for many mass killers. It fires bullets at such a high velocity – often in a barrage of 30 or even 100 in rapid succession – that it can eviscerate multiple people in seconds. A single bullet lands with a shock wave intense enough to blow apart a skull and demolish vital organs. The impact is even more acute on the compact body of a small child.


“It literally can pulverize bones, it can shatter your liver and it can provide this blast effect,” said Joseph Sakran, a gunshot survivor who advocates for gun violence prevention and a trauma surgeon at Johns Hopkins Hospital.

During surgery on people shot with high-velocity rounds, he said, body tissue “literally just crumbled into your hands.”


The carnage is rarely visible to the public. Crime scene photos are considered too gruesome to publish and often kept confidential. News accounts rely on antiseptic descriptions from law enforcement officials and medical examiners who, in some cases, have said remains were so unrecognizable that they could be identified only through DNA samples.

As Sakran put it: “We often sanitize what is happening.”

The Washington Post sought to illustrate the force of the AR-15 and reveal its catastrophic effects.

This account is based on a review of nearly 100 autopsy reports from several past AR-15 shootings, including those at schools in Connecticut and Florida,as well as court testimony and interviews with trauma surgeons, ballistics experts and a medical examiner.


The records and interviews show in stark detail the unique mechanics that propel these bullets – and why they unleash such devastation in the body.

Any bullet can kill, and instantly, when it hits a vital organ. The higher speed of a bullet from an AR-15 causes far more damage after it hits the body and drastically reduces a person’s chances of survival.

“As that bullet slows down,” said trauma surgeon Babak Sarani, an authority on casualties from mass killings, “that energy is so massive it has to go someplace, and your body will literally tear apart.”

In the scenario depicted, a typical handgun bullet from the same distance takes a relatively linear path and causes far less damage. With immediate medical care and minimal bleeding, the victim would have a chance at surviving that gunshot.


The bullet from the AR-15, however, would cause torrential bleeding that is quickly lethal.

– – –

When multiple bullets from an AR-15 strike one body, they cause a cascade of catastrophic damage.

This is the trauma witnessed by first responders – but rarely, if ever, seen by the public or the policymakers who write gun laws.

The Post determined that there is a public interest in demonstrating the uniquely destructive power of the AR-15 when used to kill.

What follows is a detailed depiction showing the impact of bullets fired from AR-15s at two young victims. It is based on autopsy reports for Noah Pozner and Peter Wang that The Post obtained through public records.

Because of the unusual visual nature of the presentation, The Post took the added step of seeking – and receiving – the consent of the victims’ families before proceeding with this account. The Post offered the families the opportunity to view the depictions in advance of publication, which they declined to do.


The families also declined to be interviewed for this story, but a spokesperson for the Wang family offered a statement explaining why Peter’s parents, Hui and Kong Wang, provided their consent to The Post.

“Peter’s parents want people to know the truth,” said Lin Chen, their niece and Peter’s cousin. “They want people to know about Peter. They want people to remember him.”

This presentation may be disturbing to some people.

– – –

Noah was found dead on the floor of Classroom 8 at Sandy Hook Elementary on Dec. 14, 2012. He was 6. He was wearing a red Batman sweatshirt, black pants and black sneakers.

He loved Batman. He was full of energy, his family said, curious and imaginative. He wanted to be an astronaut, and he also wanted to manage a taco factory, because he loved tacos. Noah would tease his sisters that when they went to bed, he was going off “to his third shift” at the factory, so convincingly that they would wake up to make sure he was still in bed.


It was cold that morning when his father, Lenny, dropped him off at school, “but he jumped out not wearing his jacket and he had one arm in one sleeve and his backpack in his other arm, and he was kind of juggling both and walking into the school that way,” Lenny Pozner would later testify.

“And that’s the last visual I have of Noah.”

The first visual that Connecticut State Police Sgt. William Cario has of Noah is this: 15 children and two educators are piled on top of one another in a small school bathroom on the southwest corner of the classroom. Cario proceeded to pull them out one by one. All were dead.

One of them was Noah.

– – –

Peter was found dead in a third-floor hallway of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Valentine’s Day 2018. He was 15. He was wearing his Army JROTC uniform.


He kept notes in his bedroom drawer about his plans. He had joined the military training corps, with its mission to “motivate young people to be better citizens,” as an important step toward attending the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

Born in New York to parents from China, he was always helping everyone around him, friends and family said. Once, at Disney World, he held a friend’s child aloft in a crowd for 20 minutes so she could see a fireworks display.

When gunfire broke out in Parkland, Peter was in study hall, playing chess with a friend. He held the door open for other students to escape.

A few of them made it. He did not.
 

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How bullets from an AR-15 blow the body apart
Author of the article:Washington Post
Washington Post
N. Kirkpatrick, Atthar Mirza and Manuel Canales, The Washington Post
Published Mar 29, 2023 • 5 minute read

The wounds show the lethal force of the AR-15, but they are rarely seen.


The gun is the weapon of choice for many mass killers. It fires bullets at such a high velocity – often in a barrage of 30 or even 100 in rapid succession – that it can eviscerate multiple people in seconds. A single bullet lands with a shock wave intense enough to blow apart a skull and demolish vital organs. The impact is even more acute on the compact body of a small child.


“It literally can pulverize bones, it can shatter your liver and it can provide this blast effect,” said Joseph Sakran, a gunshot survivor who advocates for gun violence prevention and a trauma surgeon at Johns Hopkins Hospital.

During surgery on people shot with high-velocity rounds, he said, body tissue “literally just crumbled into your hands.”


The carnage is rarely visible to the public. Crime scene photos are considered too gruesome to publish and often kept confidential. News accounts rely on antiseptic descriptions from law enforcement officials and medical examiners who, in some cases, have said remains were so unrecognizable that they could be identified only through DNA samples.

As Sakran put it: “We often sanitize what is happening.”

The Washington Post sought to illustrate the force of the AR-15 and reveal its catastrophic effects.

This account is based on a review of nearly 100 autopsy reports from several past AR-15 shootings, including those at schools in Connecticut and Florida,as well as court testimony and interviews with trauma surgeons, ballistics experts and a medical examiner.


The records and interviews show in stark detail the unique mechanics that propel these bullets – and why they unleash such devastation in the body.

Any bullet can kill, and instantly, when it hits a vital organ. The higher speed of a bullet from an AR-15 causes far more damage after it hits the body and drastically reduces a person’s chances of survival.

“As that bullet slows down,” said trauma surgeon Babak Sarani, an authority on casualties from mass killings, “that energy is so massive it has to go someplace, and your body will literally tear apart.”

In the scenario depicted, a typical handgun bullet from the same distance takes a relatively linear path and causes far less damage. With immediate medical care and minimal bleeding, the victim would have a chance at surviving that gunshot.


The bullet from the AR-15, however, would cause torrential bleeding that is quickly lethal.

– – –

When multiple bullets from an AR-15 strike one body, they cause a cascade of catastrophic damage.

This is the trauma witnessed by first responders – but rarely, if ever, seen by the public or the policymakers who write gun laws.

The Post determined that there is a public interest in demonstrating the uniquely destructive power of the AR-15 when used to kill.

What follows is a detailed depiction showing the impact of bullets fired from AR-15s at two young victims. It is based on autopsy reports for Noah Pozner and Peter Wang that The Post obtained through public records.

Because of the unusual visual nature of the presentation, The Post took the added step of seeking – and receiving – the consent of the victims’ families before proceeding with this account. The Post offered the families the opportunity to view the depictions in advance of publication, which they declined to do.


The families also declined to be interviewed for this story, but a spokesperson for the Wang family offered a statement explaining why Peter’s parents, Hui and Kong Wang, provided their consent to The Post.

“Peter’s parents want people to know the truth,” said Lin Chen, their niece and Peter’s cousin. “They want people to know about Peter. They want people to remember him.”

This presentation may be disturbing to some people.

– – –

Noah was found dead on the floor of Classroom 8 at Sandy Hook Elementary on Dec. 14, 2012. He was 6. He was wearing a red Batman sweatshirt, black pants and black sneakers.

He loved Batman. He was full of energy, his family said, curious and imaginative. He wanted to be an astronaut, and he also wanted to manage a taco factory, because he loved tacos. Noah would tease his sisters that when they went to bed, he was going off “to his third shift” at the factory, so convincingly that they would wake up to make sure he was still in bed.


It was cold that morning when his father, Lenny, dropped him off at school, “but he jumped out not wearing his jacket and he had one arm in one sleeve and his backpack in his other arm, and he was kind of juggling both and walking into the school that way,” Lenny Pozner would later testify.

“And that’s the last visual I have of Noah.”

The first visual that Connecticut State Police Sgt. William Cario has of Noah is this: 15 children and two educators are piled on top of one another in a small school bathroom on the southwest corner of the classroom. Cario proceeded to pull them out one by one. All were dead.

One of them was Noah.

– – –

Peter was found dead in a third-floor hallway of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Valentine’s Day 2018. He was 15. He was wearing his Army JROTC uniform.


He kept notes in his bedroom drawer about his plans. He had joined the military training corps, with its mission to “motivate young people to be better citizens,” as an important step toward attending the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

Born in New York to parents from China, he was always helping everyone around him, friends and family said. Once, at Disney World, he held a friend’s child aloft in a crowd for 20 minutes so she could see a fireworks display.

When gunfire broke out in Parkland, Peter was in study hall, playing chess with a friend. He held the door open for other students to escape.

A few of them made it. He did not.

Ya, this was already posted, Spammy. Only without needing the whole article.