Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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Hard to say. How dumb are Liberals? If the comments I read here are any guide, seems like any hint of transgenderism'd be like chum in the water.
NYC Gun “Buyback” Nets Fewer Than 50 Firearms
Posted at 3:00 pm on August 27, 2020 by Cam Edwards
As New York City gets ready for what promises to be another violent and bloody weekend, a couple of local politicians are patting themselves on the back for a so-called gun buyback in Queens that resulted in 44 firearms being turned over to the NYPD in exchange for $200, no questions asked.
I’ve got news for the D.A.; you can’t “buy back” your way out of this either. The solution to stemming the rising tide of violence in New York City is simple, though it’s not easy. The NYPD and prosecutors across the city have to focus on the most violent offenders. They have to ensure that arrests are made when a shooting takes place, and then they must ensure that there are consequences for the violence.
Trying to turn New York City gun-free won’t work. Criminals will continue to obtain firearms on the illicit market, and the shootings will continue while law-abiding residents are unable to protect themselves. It’s the worst possible way to try to address violent crime, so of course it’s the route that the politicians in charge of the city are wholeheartedly embracing.
https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/08/27/nyc-gun-buyback-nets-fewer-than-50-firearms/
Posted at 3:00 pm on August 27, 2020 by Cam Edwards
As New York City gets ready for what promises to be another violent and bloody weekend, a couple of local politicians are patting themselves on the back for a so-called gun buyback in Queens that resulted in 44 firearms being turned over to the NYPD in exchange for $200, no questions asked.
As residents of New York City continue to be tormented by a wave of gun violence this summer, Assemblywoman Stacey Pheffer Amato joined Queens District Attorney Melinda Katz and the NYPD’s 100th and 101st precincts for their latest “Gun Buyback” program at Macedonia Baptist Church in the Arverne section of Rockaway.
“This is an incredible event hosted by DA Katz and the NYPD as they work to combat increasing gun violence in our community in a tangible and meaningful way,” Pheffer Amato said. “Forty-four guns off the streets is a significant number and will save countless lives. Programs like this are so vital as they incentivize the turning in of dangerous weapons with no questions asked.”
Programs like this aren’t vital to the community, though they may be vital to politicians like Pheffer Amato and Melinda Katz. After all, compensated confiscation efforts like these don’t reduce crime, but they do allow officials to claim they’re “doing something” to address the shootings and killings that have skyrocketed in New York City over the past three months.“This is an incredible event hosted by DA Katz and the NYPD as they work to combat increasing gun violence in our community in a tangible and meaningful way,” Pheffer Amato said. “Forty-four guns off the streets is a significant number and will save countless lives. Programs like this are so vital as they incentivize the turning in of dangerous weapons with no questions asked.”
“We cannot prosecute our way out of this. We need everyone to work together, my office, law enforcement, our faith leaders and everyone in the community, to stop the violence,” Katz said. “The ultimate goal of this initiative is to get as many guns as possible off the streets of Queens County and make our community safe for everyone. We are all partners in this mission.”
If you can’t prosecute your way to safety, then why not work on revising New York City’s gun laws to actually allow the average citizen to both keep and bear arms for self-defense? Instead of taking that common sense step, Katz and virtually every other elected official in the Big Apple is content to keep the draconian gun laws in place so that as few people as possible can exercise the privilege to exercise their Second Amendment rights.
I’ve got news for the D.A.; you can’t “buy back” your way out of this either. The solution to stemming the rising tide of violence in New York City is simple, though it’s not easy. The NYPD and prosecutors across the city have to focus on the most violent offenders. They have to ensure that arrests are made when a shooting takes place, and then they must ensure that there are consequences for the violence.
Trying to turn New York City gun-free won’t work. Criminals will continue to obtain firearms on the illicit market, and the shootings will continue while law-abiding residents are unable to protect themselves. It’s the worst possible way to try to address violent crime, so of course it’s the route that the politicians in charge of the city are wholeheartedly embracing.
https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/08/27/nyc-gun-buyback-nets-fewer-than-50-firearms/
Buybacks are a politician's dream. They're always popular, always fail, but look all compassionate and stuff.
I don't know if you remember Morton Grove, Ill., where they banned handguns and ordered people to turn them in. They expected 25,000...........and had FIVE turned in. Life magazine published a story full of all that compassion and BS, with a pic of the five (cheap, awful) handguns in a jail cell.
So funny.
I got an even better one (and yes, I remember Morton Grove. And Kennesaw, which went the other way and passed an ordinance requiring all householders to possess and maintain a firearm in working order).
Consider the Old Line State, Maryland. Pretty solidly blue, though kinda funny. The north (farms), south (tobacco farms), east (fisheries), and west (hillbillies) are all red. It's the overwhelming population and monetary advantage of the center (the Baltimore-Washington corridor) that makes it blue.
Well, the Maryland General Assembly decided to DO SOMETHING about those terrible AR-15s that are killing so many people (about 160 per year nationwide, out of 12,000 or so criminal homicides). So by small-G god, they BANNED that death machine!
Sort of. Under pressure from people who knew what they were talking about, they didn't ban "heavy-barreled" AR-15s, because apparently a 55-grain 5.56mm ball travelling at 950 metres per second isn't EEE-vil if it comes out of a heavy barrel (on average, about two ounces (56 grams) heavier than a light barrel). So they passed their bold, progressive law, and went back to the Balto-Wash corridor to crow about taking "tough, effective action" against the death machines.
Yay! We're saved! Thank you, brave Maryland delegate! Here's a contribution to your re-election fund!
I was at my gun shop a couple of weeks ago. I counted 26 AR-15s on display, any of which I could buy, buy ammo for, and walk out the door in less than half an hour, on my way to the local school or shopping mall, legal as church on Sunday.
I know that your gun laws are crazy enough that you'll actually believe the above story is true (and it is), but the very fact that this law and your new laws are so believable is a clear indication of just how far down the rabbit hole we are.
I'm not trying to one-up you. Really. (Yes, I am)
I remember the mayor of Kenneshaw, a guy with long grey hair and a beard, ran a Civil War Memorabilia Shop I believe.
He also wrote a letter to the mayor of Morton Grove asking that any handguns that were turned in there be mailed to Kenneshaw for distribution to poor home owners without guns.
LOVE that guy.
I don't think he got a reply.
You know I'm a lot softer on gun control than you are, but we end up in the same place because I plant my flag on "show me that it will work."I'm not trying to one-up you. Really. (Yes, I am)
I remember the mayor of Kenneshaw, a guy with long grey hair and a beard, ran a Civil War Memorabilia Shop I believe.
He also wrote a letter to the mayor of Morton Grove asking that any handguns that were turned in there be mailed to Kenneshaw for distribution to poor home owners without guns.
LOVE that guy.
I don't think he got a reply.
In the meantime, if they insist on passing stupid laws, I'm good with trolling 'em!
Here's something very interesting.
New Zealand firearms buyback, which Canada used as the template for their own idiotic gun grab.
The figures are in; the estimate of registered and non-registered "military style assault weapons" in New Zealand ranged between 175,000 (NZ police estimate) and 240,000 firearms (Council of Licensed Firearms Owners estimate). The turn-in time ran out on December 31, 2019.
61,332 firearms were turned in by Feb. 13, 2020.
That is a mere 35% of the LOWEST estimated total, and includes the15,000 registered guns, of which the police got almost all. Obviously.
35%. That's not good. In Canada, it will be less than that.
Idiots in government have managed to drive at least 113,000 firearms underground in New Zealand. At least. In a population of 4.9 million. Anybody wanting a cold, illegal AR 15 et al in NZ will be able to find one for many decades to come.
These people are idiots.
Oh, btw, according to the NZ Auditor General, the administrative costs for what the gov't thought was going to be a much larger buyback were actually double the budget.
As a sort of bonus.
So ludicrous.
New Zealand firearms buyback, which Canada used as the template for their own idiotic gun grab.
The figures are in; the estimate of registered and non-registered "military style assault weapons" in New Zealand ranged between 175,000 (NZ police estimate) and 240,000 firearms (Council of Licensed Firearms Owners estimate). The turn-in time ran out on December 31, 2019.
61,332 firearms were turned in by Feb. 13, 2020.
That is a mere 35% of the LOWEST estimated total, and includes the15,000 registered guns, of which the police got almost all. Obviously.
35%. That's not good. In Canada, it will be less than that.
Idiots in government have managed to drive at least 113,000 firearms underground in New Zealand. At least. In a population of 4.9 million. Anybody wanting a cold, illegal AR 15 et al in NZ will be able to find one for many decades to come.
These people are idiots.
Oh, btw, according to the NZ Auditor General, the administrative costs for what the gov't thought was going to be a much larger buyback were actually double the budget.
As a sort of bonus.
So ludicrous.
Wrong, its working really well as is give the New Zealand Police Force the tools to raid gang headquarters with the Armed Offenders Squad, as normal cops are not armed except with cameras.
They are now building an anti gang task force and this is its strongest tool.
No problems!
Sigh.
Raiding gang headquarters has NOTHING to do with guys that held their guns legally, unless you guys were issuing firearms licenses on demand.
Oh, and how many traditional rights did the law eviscerate to allow police to raid property with no reasonable cause?
They don't need a that stupid law to raid a gang headquarters.
All they need is for a judge to issue a warrant!
All they need is for a judge to issue a warrant!
Which should require reasonable cause, but I assume (as in Canada) lefty gun grabbers don't give a rat's arse about constitutional rights, so that went out the window. That is the only possible explanation for NZ Doug's celebration of the new-found ability to raid gang HQ at will.
Otherwise, you'd be dead on.
New Zealand is leading the way. Hopefully our own buyback will be as successful. One of the most interesting aspects was the modification of firearms and return to the owners - which happened where possible.
The underlying problem is that the illegal weapons are concentrated in the hands of very small number of people. Those people are not representative of the population at large and do not behave in what we would describe as a logical fashion. They are fanatics and we probably are going to need something other than common sense to get them into the fold.
So. . . buying back guns from the people who aren't the problem, by your own estimation, is the solution?
Ohhhhh-KAY.