Gun Control is Completely Useless.

spilledthebeer

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What is there to say?

Nobody manufactures illegal guns.

Every gun ever made started its life legally owned by its maker.




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOID EXCELS AT PUTTING HIS FEET IN HIS MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Toronto cops JUST CLOSED DOWN a bunch of thugs MANUFACTURING guns in Toronto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Toronto cops describe the ILLEGAL PRODUCT as reliable quality items!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

spaminator

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SUSPECT HAD LEFT THE BUILDING: School rewound video during Florida massacre, delaying cops
Associated Press
Published:
December 18, 2018
Updated:
December 18, 2018 1:13 PM EST
In this Tuesday, Nov. 27, 2018 file photo, Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz sits in the courtroom for issues dealing with procedural motions at the Broward Courthouse in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Amy Beth Bennett / AP
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — The police response to the Florida high school massacre was delayed because school officials rewound a school surveillance video, making officers think the gunman was still in the building, a new report shows.
The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports documents show then-Marjory Stoneman Douglas assistant principal Jeff Morford and security officer Kelvin Greenleaf began viewing a livestream from inside the three-story freshman building minutes after the Feb. 14 shooting stopped.
When they didn’t see the gunman who killed 14 students and three staff members, they rewound the video until they found him and began relaying information to Broward Sheriff’s Deputy Scot Peterson, who radioed officers who had charged into the building.
At one point, officers were told suspect Nikolas Cruz was coming down the stairs when he had left the building nearly 30 minutes earlier, abandoning his AR-15 semi-automatic rifle. Officers told investigators that delayed their arrival on the third floor, where several students were dead and wounded. One deputy said one girl had a pulse when they found her, but she was dead by the time they got her outside.
School massacre panel recommends arming teachers
Sheriff: Parkland shooting suspect assaulted jail officer
“Had we known the shooter wasn’t there, we probably could have flooded that building a lot faster knowing that we’re just going to go in there and just start trying to recover victims and wounded people,” Coral Springs police SWAT officer George Schmidt told investigators.
The video delay came to light months ago, but it was not clear then how the misunderstanding occurred.
According to reports, Morford heard the fire alarm — it was probably activated by smoke from Cruz’s gun — and raced outside, where he found Peterson, who yelled, “Code Red,” the school district’s term to lockdown the school because of a shooter. Peterson told Morford to go to the school’s security room and look at the livestream from surveillance cameras inside the freshman building.
Morford found Greenleaf already there, but they couldn’t locate the shooter. They rewound the video until they found Cruz and Morford radioed Peterson what they saw — but he doesn’t remember if he told Peterson the information was nearly a half-hour old. Peterson told officers inside the building that Cruz was coming down the stairwell from the third floor, so they waited to ambush him — not know that he had already fled the school.
That delay cost precious minutes.
“They brought a young lady down from the third floor. I guess she had a pulse up top. When they got back downstairs . she was gone,” sheriff’s Sgt. Christopher Palmara told investigators.
Peterson retired shortly after it was revealed he failed to enter the building to confront Cruz. Morford was recently transferred to another job while the school district investigates his actions before the shooting, including whether he brushed aside students’ concerns about Cruz, who attended the school in 2016 and 2017. He denies having those conversations, but the state commission investigating the shooting concluded he was not being truthful.
Cruz, now 20, has pleaded not guilty but his attorneys have said he would plead guilty in exchange for a life sentence. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.
http://torontosun.com/news/crime/su...d-video-during-florida-massacre-delaying-cops
 

JamesBondo

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOID EXCELS AT PUTTING HIS FEET IN HIS MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Toronto cops JUST CLOSED DOWN a bunch of thugs MANUFACTURING guns in Toronto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Toronto cops describe the ILLEGAL PRODUCT as reliable quality items!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Is that 14x'Ha' when a minimum 20 times was required? How dare you understate your position.

Oh STB,please keep posting, your posts are so 'important' for exposing liberal lies. There is no telling where the lies are hiding. I'll bet some are hiding under your bed.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha ha HA!

HA HA HA!
 

JamesBondo

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I am not against guns per say anymore than I am against a total ban on alcohol. It is about the rights of those who do not want to deal with the dangers inherent in either product.
It is ridiculous to arm every civilian in order feel protected against the government one voted for!! It assumes there are no decent humans. Banning alcohol, we know doesn't work. It can be made out of many products available to everyone.
So,we set the bar where the results prove to be best. Of course there is no perfect solutions only reasonable ones.
So is it reasonable to leave children, mentally challenged or disturbed persons or those who have already been convicted of criminal behaviours access to something that will harm them or others?. It means being vigillant in making sure that the rights of the weakest are protected. If that means one pays more for a license, must prove they know how to maintain, care for such a weapon so be it.
Be honest, admit hand guns are for use mainly against others of our own species.
The exagerations on both sides of reason for or against allowing hand guns must made for greatest protection of all........
I will point out that handguns are mostly used by police to serve and protect, and for the most part do a wonderful job. Same goes for law abiding citizens, there are citizens out there that have concealed and carried for most of their life. No criminal has ever been able to exploit their loved ones. Some citizens have even stepped up to the plate and protected and assisted police officers.
dont you remember that case where the guy is watching from his window and he sees that a police officer is walking into an ambush, so he fires some shots and saves the police officer's life.
 

JamesBondo

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It is ridiculous to arm every civilian in order feel protected against the government one voted for!!

In the future - and now as well - I don't plan to disagree or agree with such a statement because it injects a supposition that I and others want to arm 'everyone'. That is simply not the case. I do not want to arm everyone.nor do i feel that it is necessary.
 

JamesBondo

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Bluebyrd, in the past you have stated that handgun are designed, built, and used against people.
After some thought on this, I am now comfortable absolutely disagreeing with the general meaning of you comment. Why? Because the criminal use of a handgun has always been an 'off label' application for the device. So no, I don't agree with the intent ot what you have been saying.
 

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spilledthebeer

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What is there to say?

Nobody manufactures illegal guns.

Every gun ever made started its life legally owned by its maker.


OH HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You grow more ABSURD BY THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A gun CANNOT be legal if you are not allowed by law to make it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the gun cannot be legal either if you have NO legal permission to own it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Congratulations Hoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You have just proved to us how DESPERATE ALL LIE-berals



are becoming as all their policies FAIL



simultaneously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

JamesBondo

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OH HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You grow more ABSURD BY THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A gun CANNOT be legal if you are not allowed by law to make it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the gun cannot be legal either if you have NO legal permission to own it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Congratulations Hoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You have just proved to us how DESPERATE ALL LIE-berals



are becoming as all their policies FAIL



simultaneously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your use of "!" absurd. No sane person is that excited.

BTW, those are good points that you make. Too bad you are such an annoying dink, if someone more respected such as Colpy had said this, it probably would be better received.
 
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Colpy

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I am not against guns per say anymore than I am against a total ban on alcohol. It is about the rights of those who do not want to deal with the dangers inherent in either product.

It is ridiculous to arm every civilian in order feel protected against the government one voted for!! It assumes there are no decent humans. Banning alcohol, we know doesn't work. It can be made out of many products available to everyone.

So,we set the bar where the results prove to be best. Of course there is no perfect solutions only reasonable ones.

So is it reasonable to leave children, mentally challenged or disturbed persons or those who have already been convicted of criminal behaviours access to something that will harm them or others?. It means being vigillant in making sure that the rights of the weakest are protected. If that means one pays more for a license, must prove they know how to maintain, care for such a weapon so be it.

Be honest, admit hand guns are for use mainly against others of our own species.

The exagerations on both sides of reason for or against allowing hand guns must made for greatest protection of all........


While you are completely incorrect in your understanding of the concept of "rights", I do fully agree that we should not allow children, mentally challenged or disturbed persons or those who have already been convicted of criminal behaviours access to something that will harm them or others.


But that does not justify total bans..


We already have extensive laws to prevent those who should not have guns from getting guns.
 

spilledthebeer

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Your use of "!" absurd. No sane person is that excited.




IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The prospect of seeing LIE-beral political vandalism come to



the BAD END that it RICHLY DESERVES has me wildly



EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Consider this LIE-beral election CON JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Here is an article illustrating just how little respect LIE-berals have for Cdn democracy. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Thousands of Canadian voter cards sent to dead, non-citizens

By Brian Lilley.

Published: November 13, 2018. Updated: November 13, 2018 5:31 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists

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LILLEY UNLEASHED: Canada's election system problem!

The integrity of the vote is all the rage right now.

Across the United States, a full week after the midterm elections, votes are being challenged, allegations of voter fraud made, ballots found, ballots recounted.

Have the U.S. midterms been a fair election?

Canadians often sit and judge Americans smugly on issues like this, but should we?

MALCOLM: Liberals’ planned voter ID changes ‘incredibly concerning’
FUREY: Liberal election law changes bring back vouching.

(“Vouching” is the dirty, underhanded method by which unscrupulous civil service union Hogs MAY be undermining our election process by allowing un-identified strangers to vote in critical ridings where only a few votes will make a difference for a LIE-beral candidate!)

(NO real notes or records are kept regarding how many people are allowed to vote based on vouching- so it is difficult to measure the scope of the problem! Certainly- civil service Hogs RESENT any investigation into their actions- but then Hogs have been engaged in a gross conflict of interest for several decades -along with their LIE-beral allies!)

(Hog support for LIE-berals is CRITICAL to LIE-beral election success- and in return- LIE-berals offer Hogs pay and pensions that are not even LEGAL for a private company to offer its workers!)

Do you know how many non-citizens or dead people could have voted in the last election? Or how many did? What about adding in people that have abandoned Canada and allowing them to vote?

(It is understandable that there would be the odd slip up regarding keeping voter records and deceased people accurate- somebody dies in summer and the electoral list for a fall election is not updated quickly enough! But as we have seen in United States- there seems to be something more sinister going on -and our LIE-berals appear to be working hard to play that same sinister game in our elections!)

We shouldn’t be so smug.

Not only have we had problems with past elections, the new bill before Parliament to fix this will in some ways make things worse.

One of the political legends that gets passed around reporters on Parliament Hill is the story of dead people voting. Be it in full elections or leadership votes, there are plenty of tales of dead people voting.

Is it that far fetched?

According to Elections Canada, about 207,000 voter information cards were sent out in the last election to people that were already dead. Another 57,500 went to people that were not citizens.

(We really should ask if over 260,000 “mistakes” in one election is not a sign of something sinister?)

(WE know that LIE-berals abandoned their electoral reform crap the moment an all party committee insisted there be a national referendum held BEFORE the electoral changes could be made! So why would LIE-beral committee chief Maryam Monsef have a shrieking melt down in the middle of our Parliament simply because the committee wanted that referendum? Unless cynical people like myself were right about deceitful LIE-beral plans to paralyze our parliament with idiot electoral reform deals?)

With the Trudeau government set to allow voter information cards to be used as identification in the next election we should all be worried.

Are dead people going to vote? Did they vote in the last election?

What about non-citizens?

(We have already had reports of non citizens and some illegals getting voter cards! And as I have suggested in the past- LIE-berals are deliberately importing masses of illegals to create a loyal LIE-beral voting block that will distort our election process! LIE-berals KNOW their values are not acceptable to ordinary Cdns- hence THEIR NEED for a new voting block- untainted by “white privilege”!!)

The scary thing is that Elections Canada recently admitted that they have no way of tracking whether a someone is a citizen before voting, describing the process as an honour system.

Vancouver radio station News 1130 had asked Elections Canada about safeguards against non-citizens voting and was told there are effectively none.

(LIE-berals KNOW about this lack of safeguards and they are moving to open the system further- INSTEAD of closing loop holes! LIE-berals are apparently deliberately reducing the level of fair play and honesty in our elections!!!!!!!!!)

“While we clearly communicate the citizenship requirement to vote, we depend on individuals to accurately indicate their Canadian citizenship, so we recognize the process is not perfect,” Elections Canada told the station via email.

So an honour system?

(Yes- in a country where hundreds of billions of dollars of tax money are up for grabs and where identity theft is RAMPANT! And LIE-berals clearly expect to PROFIT from these loopholes during elections!!!!!!!!!)

Look, I suspect that most non-citizens would not vote because they know the rules. There would be others who would vote mistakenly believing it was OK.

(Yes- with municipal LIE-berals telling us that illegals SHOULD BE ALLOWED to vote in the city they have invaded and now live in- because that is convenient for LIE-berals who expect support from illegals- against Canadian interests!)

Then, there are also those who would vote knowing they were breaking the rules to try and sway the vote.

(Considering the high stakes for illegals and for Muslims in the coming federal election- one has to assume there might be SUBSTANTIAL NUMBERS of people seeking to vote- even though they know they should not!)

(Consider the 100,000 illegals who are here already and then add in the 59,000 mostly Syrian refugees and realize that LIE-berals have allowed these people to SPONSOR OTHERS who want to come to Canada! LIE-berals have not even fully identified the illegals and the security checks on Muslims consist of nothing more than having HAMAS TERRORISTS assure us the Syrians are good people!)

(If LIE-berals lose the next federal election- the borders will be closed and thousands of LIE-beral “supporters” will be blocked from entry to Canada! There is considerable personal benefit to the illegals in a LIE-beral victory and thus there is strong urge TO CHEAT AND VOTE regardless of permission!)

There are more than 57,000 non-citizens and almost 207,000 dead people that Elections Canada knows about.

Could there be more?

One political operative that I spoke to told me of comparing the voters list, the one that showed who had voted, to obituaries and other databases on recent passings.

His comparison turned up many people that had voted despite being dead for years.

People Elections Canada obviously didn’t know about.

(Worse yet- Elections Canada may well KNOW! And not care- because they are Hogs who benefit from a LIE-beral victory!)

There is no perfect system but there is obviously room for improvement, especially when you find out about the general state of the list of electors.

Will people even be voting in the right riding?

Beyond the dead and non-citizens, Elections Canada also says that about 16% of the entries on the list of electors contain incorrect information. Former chief electoral officer Marc Mayrand told a Commons committee a few years ago that even after adjusting for corrections during and after the election, about 12% of the entries on the list contain incorrect information.

To put that in perspective, 330,570 voter information cards were returned as “undeliverable” and 509,397 had to be corrected after a complaint.

(WE are now talking about over a million voter cards being issued from 3 sources-some went to dead people- where somebody WAS COLLECTING the mail for the dead- plus all those “undeliverable cards” that came back to govt - plus a huge pile of other cards with wrong information!)

This is what Justin Trudeau wants to allow as a form of identification?

(And yet LIE-berals are deeply OFFENDED when we question their integrity!)

Trudeau’s change won’t improve the integrity of the voters list or make sure only those eligible cast ballots, it will actually make voter fraud easier to conduct.

In fact, I see little in his Bill C-76 that will tackle issues, such as voter fraud.

(AS I have said- I strongly suspect LIE-berals WANT VOTER FRAUD - as long as it works in their favour! Ontari-owe LIE-berals restricted third party advertising during elections ONLY AFTER it became clear that civil service union Hogs had turned against the LIE-beral govt- and Wynne-bag did not want Hogs working for NDP- against HER! But Hogs attacking Conservatives was no concern for LIE-berals and was ignored for decades - in that gross conflict of interest!)

Instead, the big change in Trudeau’s bill to change elections is to allow Canadians who moved away, and have no intention of coming back to this country, to cast a ballot.

(We have had a warning re how many people carry Cdn passport as a handy convenience- one has only to think of the 50,000 so called Cdns lined up on the docks in Lebanon demanding “their” govt rescue them from the fighting zone between Israelis and Hamas and Hezzbollah!)

(LIE-berals consider it insulting to ask why refugees should return to their home lands to visit - right after LIE-beral judges accept their stories about how they are fleeing persecution and violence in the old country- and award them with Cdn citizenship!)

Celebrities, such as Neil Young or Donald Sutherland, that left Canada for Hollywood in the 1960s will be able to have a say in our elections.

Canadians that moved back to their foreign ancestral homelands and will never return will soon be able to cast a ballot.

This could add as many as 2 million electors to the list, more than the total number of ballots cast in all four Atlantic provinces in 2015.

The next election could end up being very tight.

Like our American neighbours to the south, we live in a divided country where a percentage point here or there could make a dramatic difference.

The idea that our election could be decided by people that don’t live here, or that do live here but aren’t eligible to vote or that used to live here but are dead should worry us all.

Unfortunately, we are governed by a leader who sees no problem with these issues, only opportunity.

(Good old Canada- SUCKER NATION OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for that dubious honour LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

Hoid

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Clearly in America there needs to be some shoring up of gun laws.

Far too many people who should not have guns have guns.

Because the law is the problem.
 

JamesBondo

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IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The prospect of seeing LIE-beral political vandalism come to



the BAD END that it RICHLY DESERVES has me wildly



EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Consider this LIE-beral election CON JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Here is an article illustrating just how little respect LIE-berals have for Cdn democracy. With some comments of my own in brackets):
Thousands of Canadian voter cards sent to dead, non-citizens
By Brian Lilley.
Published: November 13, 2018. Updated: November 13, 2018 5:31 PM EST
Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists
Related
Editorials
EDITORIAL: Feds hardly best guardians against fake news
Columnists
GOLDSTEIN: Killing carding fuelled Toronto gun violence
LILLEY UNLEASHED: Canada's election system problem!
The integrity of the vote is all the rage right now.
Across the United States, a full week after the midterm elections, votes are being challenged, allegations of voter fraud made, ballots found, ballots recounted.
Have the U.S. midterms been a fair election?
Canadians often sit and judge Americans smugly on issues like this, but should we?
MALCOLM: Liberals’ planned voter ID changes ‘incredibly concerning’
FUREY: Liberal election law changes bring back vouching.
(“Vouching” is the dirty, underhanded method by which unscrupulous civil service union Hogs MAY be undermining our election process by allowing un-identified strangers to vote in critical ridings where only a few votes will make a difference for a LIE-beral candidate!)
(NO real notes or records are kept regarding how many people are allowed to vote based on vouching- so it is difficult to measure the scope of the problem! Certainly- civil service Hogs RESENT any investigation into their actions- but then Hogs have been engaged in a gross conflict of interest for several decades -along with their LIE-beral allies!)
(Hog support for LIE-berals is CRITICAL to LIE-beral election success- and in return- LIE-berals offer Hogs pay and pensions that are not even LEGAL for a private company to offer its workers!)
Do you know how many non-citizens or dead people could have voted in the last election? Or how many did? What about adding in people that have abandoned Canada and allowing them to vote?
(It is understandable that there would be the odd slip up regarding keeping voter records and deceased people accurate- somebody dies in summer and the electoral list for a fall election is not updated quickly enough! But as we have seen in United States- there seems to be something more sinister going on -and our LIE-berals appear to be working hard to play that same sinister game in our elections!)
We shouldn’t be so smug.
Not only have we had problems with past elections, the new bill before Parliament to fix this will in some ways make things worse.
One of the political legends that gets passed around reporters on Parliament Hill is the story of dead people voting. Be it in full elections or leadership votes, there are plenty of tales of dead people voting.
Is it that far fetched?
According to Elections Canada, about 207,000 voter information cards were sent out in the last election to people that were already dead. Another 57,500 went to people that were not citizens.
(We really should ask if over 260,000 “mistakes” in one election is not a sign of something sinister?)
(WE know that LIE-berals abandoned their electoral reform crap the moment an all party committee insisted there be a national referendum held BEFORE the electoral changes could be made! So why would LIE-beral committee chief Maryam Monsef have a shrieking melt down in the middle of our Parliament simply because the committee wanted that referendum? Unless cynical people like myself were right about deceitful LIE-beral plans to paralyze our parliament with idiot electoral reform deals?)
With the Trudeau government set to allow voter information cards to be used as identification in the next election we should all be worried.
Are dead people going to vote? Did they vote in the last election?
What about non-citizens?
(We have already had reports of non citizens and some illegals getting voter cards! And as I have suggested in the past- LIE-berals are deliberately importing masses of illegals to create a loyal LIE-beral voting block that will distort our election process! LIE-berals KNOW their values are not acceptable to ordinary Cdns- hence THEIR NEED for a new voting block- untainted by “white privilege”!!)
The scary thing is that Elections Canada recently admitted that they have no way of tracking whether a someone is a citizen before voting, describing the process as an honour system.
Vancouver radio station News 1130 had asked Elections Canada about safeguards against non-citizens voting and was told there are effectively none.
(LIE-berals KNOW about this lack of safeguards and they are moving to open the system further- INSTEAD of closing loop holes! LIE-berals are apparently deliberately reducing the level of fair play and honesty in our elections!!!!!!!!!)
“While we clearly communicate the citizenship requirement to vote, we depend on individuals to accurately indicate their Canadian citizenship, so we recognize the process is not perfect,” Elections Canada told the station via email.
So an honour system?
(Yes- in a country where hundreds of billions of dollars of tax money are up for grabs and where identity theft is RAMPANT! And LIE-berals clearly expect to PROFIT from these loopholes during elections!!!!!!!!!)
Look, I suspect that most non-citizens would not vote because they know the rules. There would be others who would vote mistakenly believing it was OK.
(Yes- with municipal LIE-berals telling us that illegals SHOULD BE ALLOWED to vote in the city they have invaded and now live in- because that is convenient for LIE-berals who expect support from illegals- against Canadian interests!)
Then, there are also those who would vote knowing they were breaking the rules to try and sway the vote.
(Considering the high stakes for illegals and for Muslims in the coming federal election- one has to assume there might be SUBSTANTIAL NUMBERS of people seeking to vote- even though they know they should not!)
(Consider the 100,000 illegals who are here already and then add in the 59,000 mostly Syrian refugees and realize that LIE-berals have allowed these people to SPONSOR OTHERS who want to come to Canada! LIE-berals have not even fully identified the illegals and the security checks on Muslims consist of nothing more than having HAMAS TERRORISTS assure us the Syrians are good people!)
(If LIE-berals lose the next federal election- the borders will be closed and thousands of LIE-beral “supporters” will be blocked from entry to Canada! There is considerable personal benefit to the illegals in a LIE-beral victory and thus there is strong urge TO CHEAT AND VOTE regardless of permission!)
There are more than 57,000 non-citizens and almost 207,000 dead people that Elections Canada knows about.
Could there be more?
One political operative that I spoke to told me of comparing the voters list, the one that showed who had voted, to obituaries and other databases on recent passings.
His comparison turned up many people that had voted despite being dead for years.
People Elections Canada obviously didn’t know about.
(Worse yet- Elections Canada may well KNOW! And not care- because they are Hogs who benefit from a LIE-beral victory!)
There is no perfect system but there is obviously room for improvement, especially when you find out about the general state of the list of electors.
Will people even be voting in the right riding?
Beyond the dead and non-citizens, Elections Canada also says that about 16% of the entries on the list of electors contain incorrect information. Former chief electoral officer Marc Mayrand told a Commons committee a few years ago that even after adjusting for corrections during and after the election, about 12% of the entries on the list contain incorrect information.
To put that in perspective, 330,570 voter information cards were returned as “undeliverable” and 509,397 had to be corrected after a complaint.
(WE are now talking about over a million voter cards being issued from 3 sources-some went to dead people- where somebody WAS COLLECTING the mail for the dead- plus all those “undeliverable cards” that came back to govt - plus a huge pile of other cards with wrong information!)
This is what Justin Trudeau wants to allow as a form of identification?
(And yet LIE-berals are deeply OFFENDED when we question their integrity!)
Trudeau’s change won’t improve the integrity of the voters list or make sure only those eligible cast ballots, it will actually make voter fraud easier to conduct.
In fact, I see little in his Bill C-76 that will tackle issues, such as voter fraud.
(AS I have said- I strongly suspect LIE-berals WANT VOTER FRAUD - as long as it works in their favour! Ontari-owe LIE-berals restricted third party advertising during elections ONLY AFTER it became clear that civil service union Hogs had turned against the LIE-beral govt- and Wynne-bag did not want Hogs working for NDP- against HER! But Hogs attacking Conservatives was no concern for LIE-berals and was ignored for decades - in that gross conflict of interest!)
Instead, the big change in Trudeau’s bill to change elections is to allow Canadians who moved away, and have no intention of coming back to this country, to cast a ballot.
(We have had a warning re how many people carry Cdn passport as a handy convenience- one has only to think of the 50,000 so called Cdns lined up on the docks in Lebanon demanding “their” govt rescue them from the fighting zone between Israelis and Hamas and Hezzbollah!)
(LIE-berals consider it insulting to ask why refugees should return to their home lands to visit - right after LIE-beral judges accept their stories about how they are fleeing persecution and violence in the old country- and award them with Cdn citizenship!)
Celebrities, such as Neil Young or Donald Sutherland, that left Canada for Hollywood in the 1960s will be able to have a say in our elections.
Canadians that moved back to their foreign ancestral homelands and will never return will soon be able to cast a ballot.
This could add as many as 2 million electors to the list, more than the total number of ballots cast in all four Atlantic provinces in 2015.
The next election could end up being very tight.
Like our American neighbours to the south, we live in a divided country where a percentage point here or there could make a dramatic difference.
The idea that our election could be decided by people that don’t live here, or that do live here but aren’t eligible to vote or that used to live here but are dead should worry us all.
Unfortunately, we are governed by a leader who sees no problem with these issues, only opportunity.
(Good old Canada- SUCKER NATION OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for that dubious honour LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Holy Fawk! That is so damn long, the roast chicken in my slow cooker is finished.
 

spilledthebeer

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Your use of "!" absurd. No sane person is that excited.

BTW, those are good points that you make. Too bad you are such an annoying dink, if someone more respected such as Colpy had said this, it probably would be better received.




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In all things and in all ways Bondo- YOU ARE A TRUE LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals quite often reject an argument simply because they dont like the "tone" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just look at how Our idiot Boy Justin responded to that Quebec woman who simply asked him about funding for illegals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





For the purpose of promoting and explaining our Cdn culture I present here some useful Cdn expressions and definitions:

“Black Lives Matter” (aka BLM)-translation- this is a coalition of Black radical activists whose goal is the promotion of their rights and prerogatives- no matter the cost- to other members of society. BLM believes that any and all problems that afflict Black people are the result of systemic racism in Cdn society. They believe that the only solution to the problem of White bigotry is reverse discrimination on a massive scale. BLM is especially concerned with Police actions, training and values.

Questions from radical activists regarding alleged Police bigotry and Police relationship to mentally ill citizens would be more acceptable if radicals had not already persuaded LIE-berals to empty out virtually all the provincial mental health facilities-in the name of personal freedom and `civil rights` - and dump a pack of deranged persons onto the streets without proper supervision or even real access to much needed medication.

In a most awkward type of backward logic, people confined to institutions are compelled to take their medication-which is supplied free to them and due to regular use of that medication, patients are capable of functioning normally-until they are released into the world-to live on welfare or disability cheques and either cannot afford to buy their needed medication or they shun their medication due to unpleasant side effects-which quickly brings on dangerous medical symptoms which often get them shot by police. Why blame police when it is inadequate supervision and lack of proper access to needed medication that is to blame?

In addition. LIE-beral legislation now forbids a doctor to hospitalize a deranged person who has gone off their `meds`. Such a person must be allowed to deteriorate mentally until they are a demonstrated danger to themselves and others; and the burden of proof of such alleged danger is now so high that the patient is often shot by police before reaching the threshold for treatment.

Sensible Police response to crazy people is further hampered by radical activists refusing to let Police have non lethal weapons in Toronto-weapons such as Tasers and bean bag shooting guns that would allow Police to knock down and disable knife waving nutbars instead of simply shooting them full of holes.

BLM Manifesto: A comprehensive list of demands designed to fully promote reverse discrimination and allow Black community spokespersons to launch a takeover of Cdn govt and act as the true power behind the democratic facade of elected LIE-beral officials who would be reduced to rubber stamping BLM policies as ordered by the BLM shadow govt..

BLM criticism of Police would be more easily tolerated if a minority within BLM were not manipulating the main group by using Black anger as a smoke screen designed to use reverse discrimination to hamper legitimate Police investigation into crimes committed by Black criminals. Making a choice to become a drug dealer or Pimp instead of flipping burgers at McDonald`s is certainly a career choice but being Black ought not to be a legal defense against arrest for drug and prostitution charges or assorted crimes of violence.

Sadly, the anti White bigots at BLM believes that the best way to promote racial harmony and minimize the number of mentally ill persons being shot in our streets is to ENTIRELY disarm the Police. BLM desires that all Police Officers shall be demoted to the status of disarmed and neutered/passive observers of community activity with no authority to act or interfere in any way unless given explicit instructions by BLM.

BLM apparently does not wish to see any member of the Police Force-known to an older generation of Black activists as “The Occupying Army” interact with any member of the Black Community without first obtaining written permission from BLM. Such permission will spell out the details of permitted actions by police officers-the places where they may meet with Black people; the questions they may ask; the number of officers who may enter the community at any one time of day and etc.

BLM seems to recognizes that there are sometimes divisions in the Black Community and BLM reserves the right to issue verbal orders to Police officers and govt officials at short notice. If new verbal orders contradict earlier written orders then all Police Officers must immediately stand down and return to their nearest station house and remain there until consensus within the Black Community is reached and new orders are issued by BLM.


“Political scandal”-translation-the phrase has two meanings depending on who employs it. Used by Conservatives it refers to some LIE-beral action such as gross misconduct or outright theft of govt money-refer to news reports of ORNG, E-Health, gas plants, Thunder Bay biomass electrical generation mess, Mars building, Green Energy fiasco, Sudbury bribery scandal, to name some of the more recent scandals.

Older LIE-beral scandals involve the theft of three billion dollars from the Human Resources Ministry, along with the bending of tax laws by LIE-beral finance minister Paul Martin in which the assets of his Canada Steamship Lines were moved out of the country and away from his own tax department-without the benefit of any tax levies being paid thanks to adroit use of loopholes Martin left in his own legislation.

When used by a LIE-beral the phrase `political scandal` refers to the Mike Duffy trial in which Duffy-a rogue Conservative senator grossly misused public money until his Conservative party masters heard of it. At that point he was ordered to pay back the money but he refused-so Conservative party PAID what he owed and then took him to court in an attempt to recover their costs. By contrast -LIE-berals think it is a scandal (and a very BAD political precedent) that a politician or political party would pay anything back to tax payers under any circumstances.

In politics, not all things that are viewed as outrageous by voters can be classed as scandal. The LIE-beral senator MacDonald Harb has taken WAY MORE money than Mike Duffy ever did yet he has yet to be charged with anything or even asked to pay any of it back and LIE-berals have made it clear THEY bear no responsibility for his debts-and they see no scandal in this.
 

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In all things and in all ways Bondo- YOU ARE A TRUE LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals quite often reject an argument simply because they dont like the "tone" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Classifying a person by a political designation is both haphazard and IGNORANT. 99% of us are at least partly some political designation, especially when the designating is handing out money by one means or another! :)