Fox News, North

[Bar Sinister]

That made me LOL.

But that isn't news, that's Op/Ed commentary.

Including Fox?

That aside, it can't hold water in it's own market, how do you think it can "stack up" against American news giants?

Fox, and it's subsidiaries are a huge TV network dude.

An article from September 2009, on the Nielsen rating of one week?

You are kidding right?

How about we stay current and look at a whole month...

Fox News Channel dominates August ratings; Chris Wallace excels in Glenn Beck interview – The TV Guy – Orlando Sentinel

Your weak comparisons aside, the nationalist in you is escaping, careful.

Bear, half the time I can't tell if you are agreeing with me or setting me up to point out the obvious, especially since your post pointing out the domination of FOX News supports my point which was that hardly anyone watches FOX News. Most us viewers get their news from the major networks. At no time did any of the programs listed even manage to match the lowest ranked major network.

As for your comment on the FOX video - you are right it isn't news. Almost nothing on FOX is news.

Pointing out the obvious again - guess I fell into your trap once more. :-(

 

[CDNBear]

Bear, half the time I can't tell if you are agreeing with me or setting me up to point out the obvious, especially since your post pointing out the domination of FOX News supports my point which was that hardly anyone watches FOX News. Most us viewers get their news from the major networks. At no time did any of the programs listed even manage to match the lowest ranked major network.

Oops, wrong link...

Cable News Ratings - TV Ratings, Nielsen Ratings, Television Show Ratings | TVbytheNumbers.com

Not that it really matters, I misunderstood the context of your original comment. Kind of like how you misunderstood the context of the other thread. Only one of us is mature enough to admit it and grow from it.

As for your comment on the FOX video - you are right it isn't news. Almost nothing on FOX is news.

I don't now if I'd go that far, but having been forced to watch it, to better formulate an opinion on it. Which by the way was far less then stellar for years. I'm beginning to see that the much maligned network, gets a bum wrap. Largely due to people, much like yourself, who can't differentiate between news and Op/Ed.

Pointing out the obvious again - guess I fell into your trap once more. :-(

:roll: Condescending stupidity aside. You failed to answer...

That aside, it can't hold water in it's own market, how do you think it can "stack up" against American news giants?

I won't hold my breath waiting for an honest answer. Nationalist ideologues are rarely honest. Nor do they like answering tough questions.

 

[Colpy]

Question of the Day - Inside Politics

Check THIS out....and vote.

The results so far are completely shocking. Wonderful to see that CBC viewers so strongly support free speech.... NOT

 

[Tonington]

I voted no, but there's one thing you have to realize Colpy, it's not necessarilly CBC viewers. Basically, any blog out there scare mongering about "Fox North" will send their readers there to vote.

It's not uncommon for online polls to end up with blog readers who vote multiple times from different machines, and using many different email accounts.

 

[Colpy]

I voted no, but there's one thing you have to realize Colpy, it's not necessarilly CBC viewers. Basically, any blog out there scare mongering about "Fox North" will send their readers there to vote.

It's not uncommon for online polls to end up with blog readers who vote multiple times from different machines, and using many different email accounts.

You are, of course, completely correct..........and I've notice really skewed voting results on posts on CBC repeatedly...

On-line polls are NEVER scientific, and rarely indicate anything at all!

 

[Omicron]

Fox News does not spread hate, it offers an alternative viewpoint to the very, very liberal views of the other TV channels in the USA.

Just out of curiosity, what "very, very liberal views" are you talking about?

I've tuned into American channels periodically, and I don't recall ever seeing anything hyper-liberal at all. Most of the time it's just reporting, and only stands out when coming in from the right like Fox.

If you want to see liberal TV, check out some of the stations from Europe some time.

 

[YukonJack]

Just out of curiosity, what "very, very liberal views" are you talking about?

I've tuned into American channels periodically, and I don't recall ever seeing anything hyper-liberal at all. Most of the time it's just reporting, and only stands out when coming in from the right like Fox.

If you want to see liberal TV, check out some of the stations from Europe some time.

Check out MSNBC. Especially "The Ed Show" and "Countdown with Keith Olbermann".

 

[Bar Sinister]

Oops, wrong link...

Cable News Ratings - TV Ratings, Nielsen Ratings, Television Show Ratings | TVbytheNumbers.com

Not that it really matters, I misunderstood the context of your original comment. Kind of like how you misunderstood the context of the other thread. Only one of us is mature enough to admit it and grow from it.

I guess so which one?

BTW, just curious is it possible for you to make a post without tacking an insult onto it? Give it a try it might improve your credibility.

Just out of curiosity, what "very, very liberal views" are you talking about?

I've tuned into American channels periodically, and I don't recall ever seeing anything hyper-liberal at all. Most of the time it's just reporting, and only stands out when coming in from the right like Fox.

If you want to see liberal TV, check out some of the stations from Europe some time.

You have it right there, Omi. What the American right views as extreme left wing views are considered normal in any nation outside the US.

 

[CDNBear]

I guess so which one?

Not you.

BTW, just curious is it possible for you to make a post without tacking an insult onto it?

Yes.

Give it a try it might improve your credibility.

Try posting without the condescension, you might not get your feelings hurt so often.

You have it right there, Omi. What the American right views as extreme left wing views are considered normal in any nation outside the US.

Funny how you think you aren't insulting people when you say crap like that.

I'm a left leaning Canadian, I think people like Oberman is an extreme left wing progressive, condescending jackass.

But I can see how you would think he's normal.

Way to answer the question by the way.

 

[Bcool]

Just out of curiosity, what "very, very liberal views" are you talking about?

I've tuned into American channels periodically, and I don't recall ever seeing anything hyper-liberal at all. Most of the time it's just reporting, and only stands out when coming in from the right like Fox.

If you want to see liberal TV, check out some of the stations from Europe some time.

You'll have to be more detailed than that, Omi, like telling him which countries are in Europe for starters. :roll:

YukonJack said: Check out MSNBC. Especially "The Ed Show" and "Countdown with Keith Olbermann".

Good for you YJ, fearlessly recommending the shows you watch.

Bar Sinister said: You have it right there, Omi. What the American right views as extreme left wing views are considered normal in any nation outside the US.

What is becoming very noticeable IMO is that with the "parties within parties" divisions that are far more divisive in US politics than in other countries political systems, due to their two party system I guess, is the 'creeping infusion' of ultra extreme right wing division rhetoric into the extreme right wing division then into the right wing division. It's not getting diluted or even questioned by any division on the Right. I'm also getting a tad peeved about Canada being labelled "Socialist.... nudge, nudge, wink, wink...". It's right back to the old Hooverism he whipped up about Trudeau 'secretly' paddling to Cuba in a canoe. We'll be "commie" as they get closer to the November hysteria. :roll:

CDNBear said of Bar Sinister's above quote: Funny how you think you aren't insulting people when you say crap like that.

Odd though how you maybe do not see your comment as insulting, or maybe you do? How do you see it? As pointing out something the rest of us have somehow missed? He did define the group he was discussing as the American Right - is being called the American Right an insult? Or do you see an insult in the American Right using the phrase 'extreme left wing views'?

I'm a left leaning Canadian, I think people like Oberman is an extreme left wing progressive, condescending jackass.

And I don't. I watch 'Countdown' & 'Rachel Maddow' frequently, not consistently as does YukonJack apparently, 'The Daily Show' also. I like satire, I like watching the Glenn Becks, the Sarah Palins, the Arizona Governor, the John McCains, et al, get mocked because somebody in the US has to do it to show to the rest of the world that the US still has its basic core of sanity intact. But I watch those shows knowing they're not news shows and most importantly they're US shows about the US. So I don't use the same labelling system as I would for Canadian politicians because it just wouldn't work, we have a parliamentary system, theirs is a Federal system. Our "Right" is not their "Right", their "Left" is not our "Left". So why do you state your Canadian political preference and then state your view of Olbermann as if he were part of your Canadian political world?

I don't watch FOX so I can't criticise it, many things I don't watch so I can't criticize them. You have to watch Olbermann often enough that you feel you're making a fair judgement I assume. So, fair enough, your opinion and all that. But then:

But I can see how you would think he's normal.

You state that as if its an insult. How can it be an insult if Bar Sinister happened to be a viewer of "Countdown"? I see Olbermann as 'normal', I would not watch the show if I didn't. So your normal apparently wouldn't be the same as mine. I see no problem with that, do you? Heck, if being "normal" was a requirement of all tv and radio show hosts, news anchors, commentators, talk show hosts and reporters how long before its a 'one size fits all normal' for any show where speaking without a pre-approved script for every word is no longer permitted by any media? Not just censorship, not just who decides what's 'normal', but very boring!

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[Omicron]

You'll have to be more detailed than that, Omi, like telling him which countries are in Europe for starters. :roll:

Well, there's Scandinavians, who deliver it so dry you have to think about it later to wonder if someone has been pegged. Then there's the eastern-European non-Russian crowd. In particular I've started noticing Romanians, which feels odd given how I used to think they were the corn-huskers of the east. And of course there's Greeks who clown like non-stop Monty Python.

What is becoming very noticeable IMO is that with the "parties within parties" divisions that are far more divisive in US politics than in other countries political systems, due to their two party system I guess,

It's because Members of Congress don't have to vote the party line.

That's how you get uber-conservative factions within the Democrats like the Dixycats... still bitter about how Lincoln was a Republican.

I'm also getting a tad peeved about Canada being labelled "Socialist.... nudge, nudge, wink, wink...".

I was on vacation and stopped in a small-town pub in eastern California and got into a debate with the barkeep when she checked my ID and saw I was Canuck. It led to a discussion about the difference between socialism and communism after she said all Canucks are pink, and I tried to explain how socialism in its modern form was hammered out by Sweden in order to stop Bolshevism from spreading to her shores, and how there were more billionaires percapita in Canada whereas there are more millionaires per capita in the USA, making it more "socialized", and I got kicked out and she threw the last of my beer on me.

It's right back to the old Hooverism [...]

Speaking of pink (or am I confusing a President with the head of the FBI?)

Besides... who was one of the most fundamental PMs? It was Bennet, who started the CBC and the Bank of Canada because he took his job of governing seriously and as a Tory had a better sense than most what happens when le private sector dominates media and banking.

'The Daily Show' also.

It's amazing who he can get on as guests. You don't get the Vice President and Jimmy Carter showing up unless people are watching.

I like satire, I like watching the Glenn Becks, the Sarah Palins, the Arizona Governor, the John McCains, et al, get mocked because somebody in the US has to do it to show to the rest of the world that the US still has its basic core of sanity intact.

That is a simple fact. Nobody beats those guys at self-criticism. If they're going to conquer the world any way, it will be with that.

You state that as if its an insult. How can it be an insult if Bar Sinister happened to be a viewer of "Countdown"? I see Olbermann as 'normal', I would not watch the show if I didn't. So your normal apparently wouldn't be the same as mine. I see no problem with that, do you? Heck, if being "normal" was a requirement of all tv and radio show hosts, news anchors, commentators, talk show hosts and reporters how long before its a 'one size fits all normal' for any show where speaking without a pre-approved script for every word is no longer permitted by any media? Not just censorship, not just who decides what's 'normal', but very boring!

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I asked some pals one night what "normal" meant. They said normal would be to crush me to mush and eat me, and I explained how they'd have to catch me. I went on to explain the difference between bunnys and jack-rabbits, but they lost attention and started watching the game on TV.

It made me think so I did some analysis, and I found out (in a university library) that Canadians are in fact neigh unto the most radical people on the planet in so long as they can hold their peace.

 

[Bcool]

I was on vacation and stopped in a small-town pub in eastern California and got into a debate with the barkeep when she checked my ID and saw I was Canuck. It led to a discussion about the difference between socialism and communism after she said all Canucks are pink, and I tried to explain how socialism in its modern form was hammered out by Sweden in order to stop Bolshevism from spreading to her shores, and how there were more billionaires percapita in Canada whereas there are more millionaires per capita in the USA, making it more "socialized", and I got kicked out and she threw the last of my beer on me.

ROTFLOL

Speaking of pink (or am I confusing a President with the head of the FBI?)

President Hoover's term was '29 to '33, so t'was the guy who held the real power for so long that I was referring to: J. Edgar Hoover. Spooky!!

It's amazing who he can get on as guests. You don't get the Vice President and Jimmy Carter showing up unless people are watching.

Bet McCain misses being almost a regular on it. :sad4:

That is a simple fact. Nobody beats those guys at self-criticism. If they're going to conquer the world any way, it will be with that.

But they use Canadian writers to do it. <EWG>

http://tunes.digitalock.com/dropyourguns.mp3 <-- click to play background music

Ah yes.... A little April Wine.... Kewl!!

I asked some pals one night what "normal" meant. They said normal would be to crush me to mush and eat me, and I explained how they'd have to catch me. I went on to explain the difference between bunnys and jack-rabbits, but they lost attention and started watching the game on TV.

FAL Well, geez Omi! You were explaining the diff between bunnies and jack-rabbits during the game!! :albino:

It made me think so I did some analysis, and I found out (in a university library) that Canadians are in fact neigh unto the most radical people on the planet in so long as they can hold their peace.

You mean you had to look this up?! We are so totally radical, dude! :bigsmurf: :laughing1: ccasion5:
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[winniethepooh]

The title and the petition are misnomers, we all know there's no 'Fox News North', and hate speech is not allowed. The petition is extremely offensive using inflammatory speech and incorrect assumption, or should be to anyone who believes in democracy and freedom of speech.

 

[YukonJack]

The title and the petition are misnomers, we all know there's no 'Fox News North', and hate speech is not allowed. The petition is extremely offensive using inflammatory speech and incorrect assumption, or should be to anyone who believes in democracy and freedom of speech.

winniethepooh, the very words "FOX NEWS" set off alarm bells in the skulls (reluctant to say brains) of those who never watched it.

 

[DaSleeper]

The title and the petition are misnomers, we all know there's no 'Fox News North', and hate speech is not allowed. The petition is extremely offensive using inflammatory speech and incorrect assumption, or should be to anyone who believes in democracy and freedom of speech.

That petition must have been written by people who believe in freedom of speech.











Right until the speaker disagrees with them.....
Like when Coulter came to speak a U of O

 

[Cliffy]

winniethepooh, the very words "FOX NEWS" set off alarm bells in the skulls (reluctant to say brains) of those who never watched it.

How many times do we have to endure watching Fox News before we are qualified as having watched it? Just because you think the shyte that issues forth from those arseholes don't stink, doesn't make it so.

 

[YukonJack]

Cliffy, if I had the time and the inclination I would go back and quote you proudly declaring that you never watch TV, let alone FOX News.

So, other than hearsay, your opinion on the validity of Fox is - charitably - uninformed and unqualified."Endure"? I think not.

With all the time you spend on Canadian Content Forum, I doubt you have enough time to watch FOX on the internet, but I may be wrong.

 

[Cliffy]

Cliffy, if I had the time and the inclination I would go back and quote you proudly declaring that you never watch TV, let alone FOX News.

So, other than hearsay, your opinion on the validity of Fox is - charitably - uninformed and unqualified."Endure"? I think not.

With all the time you spend on Canadian Content Forum, I doubt you have enough time to watch FOX on the internet, but I may be wrong.

And a cheery good morning to you Jack! And yes, you would right that I don't have a TV but be wrong about not watching Fox News - cheep tabloid hog wash. The National Inquirer is more credible and more intelligent. (I hope you don't think the Enquirer is truth 8O)

 

[YukonJack]

Cliffy said:

"The National Inquirer is more credible and more intelligent. (I hope you don't think the Enquirer is truth."

I read the National Enquirer about as often as you watch FOX News, so I am honest enough not to form a biased and ignorant opinion about it and I am reluctant to believe all the hearsay.

Did not the National Enquirer get some journalistic prize for uncovering the sex scandal of riel Hunter and the liberal dirtbag John Edwards?

So, even a blind hog can find an acorn.

 

[Omicron]

I read the National Enquirer about as often as you watch FOX News, so I am honest enough not to form a biased and ignorant opinion about it and I am reluctant to believe all the hearsay.

The issue isn't about Fox News launching a channel targeting that sector of the Canadian audience who'd vote Harper/Day while being stuck on all the bitter parts of the Old Testament and who will interpret "Sun TV" to mean "Son-of-God TV with hot-head op/ed rantings of warmness-and-light"...

It's about how they're pushing to be granted a Category 1 "Must Carry" license, and the chairman of the CRTC is correct to say it doesn't qualify for a Cat 1.

Speaking of National Inquirer... they can't hold a candle to these guys

Weekly World News|The World’s Only Reliable News!

Sadly, they are no longer in hard-copy print, but they're still online.

Now... if *they* were to launch an op/ed news-channel, *that* would be entertaining, and you know what one of their first Headlines would be?

"Canadians Must Watch Weekly World News"

Drop-line...

"Bat Boy Demands Category 1 Broadcast License to Bring Light to North-of Arctic Circle Eskimos Lost in Darkness Half the Time"

From Weekly World News... Ed Anger: "Health Care Makes Me Sick"

"I finally figured out the whole point of that long stupid meeting the Teleprompter Kid had about health care!

"It was nothing to do with getting them all to agree on how to turn hospitals into DMVs.

"Nope, their plan was to bore half the country to death and give the other half heart attacks, so we’d all be dead anyhow and wouldn’t need doctors!

"Boy, that Communist in Chief sure is touchy. A few times, I’m pretty sure I saw the computer parts in his head blowing a fuse!

"The CIA must be kicking themselves for not buying better parts to build their Obama robot – where did they get them from? Toyota?

"Yeah, I told you for years those Japs would get their revenge on us for nuking them, and it is finally happening. Those clever Japs have been putting crappy parts in those dinky cars they send us, so we’ll all die and they can take over America!

"Toyota is working with Obama to kill us all! It’s all over the TV, people! How much more proof do you want?

"Only your old pal Ed Anger has the guts to tell you what’s really happening to our once great nation!

"I’ve been waiting for the government to come for me for fifty damn years, but I guess they don’t have the guts! I’ve got it all worked out: when the black helicopters land on my front yard, I just have to roll my oxygen tank down the driveway, then shoot it up with my handy double barrelled Mossberg!

"Ka-boom!!

"Old Ed doesn’t need any fancy private planes to get back at the Feds. No sir: give me a good old American shotgun – and let the bastards come to me"