Eco-Terrorist Suzuki at it again.

petros

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The "eco" is economic. Does anyone have a butt plug handy to shut this treasonous cock sucker up?


Environmental activist David Suzuki was among a group of Canadians in Washington, D.C., today to urge U.S. President Barack Obama's administration to reject the Keystone XL pipeline, telling Americans that Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper can’t be trusted when it comes to climate change promises.

Members of the group were in a panel discussion sponsored by the Natural Resources Defense Council and titled “What happened to Canada?”



Delegation members met Thursday and were also meeting Friday with members of Congress and representatives from the State Department. They voiced opposition to TransCanada's proposed pipeline, which would link Alberta's oilsands to refineries in Texas but is still under review by the U.S. government.

The panelists said they are trying to inform Americans that dissent when it comes to Harper’s environmental policies isn’t allowed north of their border with Canada, and that Canadians haven't been allowed a real debate about the expansion of the Alberta oilsands, which they referred to as the tarsands.

They gave the “muzzling” of federal government scientists as an example of how Harper is trying to prevent an informed debate about climate change and the environmental impacts of pipelines.

“This government has systematically been suppressing the ability of our scientists to speak up,” Suzuki said. “Government scientists, paid by our tax dollars, are not allowed to speak to the press without first being vetted through the Prime Minister’s Office.”
A 'critical crisis' for Canada

Canadians aren't getting the scientific-based evidence they need to make big decisions, Suzuki said. “This is, I think, a critical crisis for Canada.”

In an interview after the talk, Suzuki said the government's claim that Canada is leading the world in fighting climate change can't be taken seriously, based on how it has undervalued the importance of science. He said Americans should know what's going on in Canada, particularly because of the steady stream of Harper cabinet members who visit Washington and advocate for the pipeline to be approved.
"Americans think of Canada as a country of fair play and they listen to our leaders with respect, and when our leaders come down and tell them stories, stories based on a total absence of science to support what they’re saying, I think it’s important that America understand the limit of what our so-called leaders are telling them,” he said.

Author and activist Tzeporah Berman said on the panel that she lives in a country she no longer recognizes. She said Harper has made a string of broken promises when it comes to climate change, and Americans shouldn't believe him when he or his ministers come to Washington and say development of the oilsands will be carried out in an environmentally friendly way.

“We’re arguing that Obama needs to refuse the Keystone XL pipeline both for America's own interest, and because our government cannot be trusted when it promises it will be a responsible project and will address the impacts of climate change,” she said.

While the small team of Canadians is trying to get its anti-Keystone message across in the U.S. capitol, Obama is hearing from some far more influential Americans. The CEOs of dozens of major companies, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the National Association of Manufacturers sent a letter Oct. 9 asking the president to approve TransCanada's project.

They said the pipeline is important to the fragile American recovery, and will affect investor confidence and American competitiveness.

"We know your Administration is carefully considering the environmental risks associated with Keystone XL, as it should. Those risks, like those incumbent in many other significant projects, must — and can — be managed, through appropriate regulation and careful stewardship," the letter stated.

Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver said he was pleased to see American business leaders stand up for a project that will create jobs and energy security for both countries.
Oliver advocates for Keystone approval

"I have no comment on U.S. internal political matters. However, we believe that if the relevant facts are taken into consideration, the project will be approved on its merits," Oliver said in an email response.

Oliver said the U.S. needs to import an increasing amount of oil and that Canada is a "secure, environmentally responsible friend and neighbour."

At a news conference in Vancouver, Oliver was asked to what extent the ongoing U.S. government shutdown might be delaying the review.

He said he wouldn't comment on an internal American political matter, but that, "We continue to believe that if all the facts and science are considered, this project will ultimately be approved."

Oliver said people with different opinions have every right to express them, but that a lot of rhetoric is "unrelated to reality."
"We're sticking to the facts and we have a very strong story to tell," he said.

Canadian artist Franke James was also part of the panel in Washington, and her poster creations related to the oil industry and the environment are going up around city streets, in bus shelters and other spots.

"Canada is sacrificing democratic and human rights for oil industry profits," she said.
 

relic

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What the fark does oliver know about reality, steve just changes the little tape that plays when you pull the string on the back of his head.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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Like t or not, Oliver is right.

No he's not, the reason that Harper and his yes men keeping trying to plug any objective sources on climate change and CO2 is they know their base is effectively gone when we start addressing the true issues. Suzuki isn't an objective source in many ways, he's a celebrity now not a scientist, but I agree with not building the Keystone XL so we can keep oil sands development going.

Business and political leaders who ignore the best evidence out of self-interest aren't real leaders in my opinion. We lack any high profile leaders with any real vision on this continent right now and things are likely to get really ugly as a result.
 

petros

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What makes you believe Canadian heavy oil is the tipping point for climate change allegedly induced by CO2?
 

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You got lobbyists telling Washington to build the pipeline and lobbyists telling them not to build it, fcuking Washington assohle politicians are confused as it is, can't you make up your minds before coming down here stirring more trouble? :D
 

taxslave

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You got lobbyists telling Washington to build the pipeline and lobbyists telling them not to build it, fcuking Washington assohle politicians are confused as it is, can't you make up your minds before coming down here stirring more trouble? :D

we made up our minds long ago. Just waiting for the permits to start laying pipe. Oh and some dumb yankee to make up his mind if he wants oil or wants to freeze in the dark. Don't pay any mind to the freeloading lefards here. We don't.
 

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People are smart when we agree with them and idiots when we don't.

We are experiencing an epidemic of cancers, respiratory diseases, mental health issues up the yin yang but I suppose it is too disquieting to admit we are the problem by contributing, through mindless consumerism, to the millions of tons of toxic soup being released into the environment. The oil sands are just one contributing factor in this race to annihilate ourselves and all life on the planet, but hey! there is a lot of money to be made in the mean time so phuque it, eh! You can't stop the progress of the cancer call western civilization.
 

taxslave

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People are smart when we agree with them and idiots when we don't.

We are experiencing an epidemic of cancers, respiratory diseases, mental health issues up the yin yang but I suppose it is too disquieting to admit we are the problem by contributing, through mindless consumerism, to the millions of tons of toxic soup being released into the environment. The oil sands are just one contributing factor in this race to annihilate ourselves and all life on the planet, but hey! there is a lot of money to be made in the mean time so phuque it, eh! You can't stop the progress of the cancer call western civilization.

Some of us like making money and take pride in a job well done.
 

Cliffy

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Some of us like making money and take pride in a job well done.
What does that have to do with what I said? A person cannot get through the day without doing some kind of work. I didn't learn what work was until I dropped out of the rat race. There all kinds of rewarding labour that a person can engage in. It does not have to be destructive to our life support system.
 

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What makes you believe Canadian heavy oil is the tipping point for climate change allegedly induced by CO2?

Hmm. the Scientific American article to come along a month or so ago to say so?

The "eco" is economic. Does anyone have a butt plug handy to shut this treasonous cock sucker up?


Environmental activist David Suzuki was among a group of Canadians in Washington, D.C., today to urge U.S. President Barack Obama's administration to reject the Keystone XL pipeline, telling Americans that Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper can’t be trusted when it comes to climate change promises.

*hick*

http://stuff.digitalock.com/rockinallovertheworld.mp3

What I don't get about PM SH is that he's perfect for making peace with Iran.

He could walk into a high-level Iranian mosk and say he was not going to bow down on a carpet, rather he was going to eat some mass.

Do you really think they would care, other than tell him he had to eat his mass outside?

My head spins with the idiocy off all this.

If SH was a real PM on the level of King he'd order a redirection of the pipe to Ontario and Quebec, such that now they got all the industrial benefits.

Susuzi as Canadian should jump at it, realizing it would be a way to make sure the oil-transport and use went safe, which he can *not* do in the US.

The sense of it is so obvious, what we get to see from the PM's decision is whether or not he's a puppet of Uncle Sam.






Members of the group were in a panel discussion sponsored by the Natural Resources Defense Council and titled “What happened to Canada?”



Delegation members met Thursday and were also meeting Friday with members of Congress and representatives from the State Department. They voiced opposition to TransCanada's proposed pipeline, which would link Alberta's oilsands to refineries in Texas but is still under review by the U.S. government.

The panelists said they are trying to inform Americans that dissent when it comes to Harper’s environmental policies isn’t allowed north of their border with Canada, and that Canadians haven't been allowed a real debate about the expansion of the Alberta oilsands, which they referred to as the tarsands.

They gave the “muzzling” of federal government scientists as an example of how Harper is trying to prevent an informed debate about climate change and the environmental impacts of pipelines.

“This government has systematically been suppressing the ability of our scientists to speak up,” Suzuki said. “Government scientists, paid by our tax dollars, are not allowed to speak to the press without first being vetted through the Prime Minister’s Office.”
A 'critical crisis' for Canada

Canadians aren't getting the scientific-based evidence they need to make big decisions, Suzuki said. “This is, I think, a critical crisis for Canada.”

In an interview after the talk, Suzuki said the government's claim that Canada is leading the world in fighting climate change can't be taken seriously, based on how it has undervalued the importance of science. He said Americans should know what's going on in Canada, particularly because of the steady stream of Harper cabinet members who visit Washington and advocate for the pipeline to be approved.
"Americans think of Canada as a country of fair play and they listen to our leaders with respect, and when our leaders come down and tell them stories, stories based on a total absence of science to support what they’re saying, I think it’s important that America understand the limit of what our so-called leaders are telling them,” he said.

Author and activist Tzeporah Berman said on the panel that she lives in a country she no longer recognizes. She said Harper has made a string of broken promises when it comes to climate change, and Americans shouldn't believe him when he or his ministers come to Washington and say development of the oilsands will be carried out in an environmentally friendly way.

“We’re arguing that Obama needs to refuse the Keystone XL pipeline both for America's own interest, and because our government cannot be trusted when it promises it will be a responsible project and will address the impacts of climate change,” she said.

While the small team of Canadians is trying to get its anti-Keystone message across in the U.S. capitol, Obama is hearing from some far more influential Americans. The CEOs of dozens of major companies, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the National Association of Manufacturers sent a letter Oct. 9 asking the president to approve TransCanada's project.

They said the pipeline is important to the fragile American recovery, and will affect investor confidence and American competitiveness.

"We know your Administration is carefully considering the environmental risks associated with Keystone XL, as it should. Those risks, like those incumbent in many other significant projects, must — and can — be managed, through appropriate regulation and careful stewardship," the letter stated.

Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver said he was pleased to see American business leaders stand up for a project that will create jobs and energy security for both countries.
Oliver advocates for Keystone approval

"I have no comment on U.S. internal political matters. However, we believe that if the relevant facts are taken into consideration, the project will be approved on its merits," Oliver said in an email response.

Oliver said the U.S. needs to import an increasing amount of oil and that Canada is a "secure, environmentally responsible friend and neighbour."

At a news conference in Vancouver, Oliver was asked to what extent the ongoing U.S. government shutdown might be delaying the review.

He said he wouldn't comment on an internal American political matter, but that, "We continue to believe that if all the facts and science are considered, this project will ultimately be approved."

Oliver said people with different opinions have every right to express them, but that a lot of rhetoric is "unrelated to reality."
"We're sticking to the facts and we have a very strong story to tell," he said.

Canadian artist Franke James was also part of the panel in Washington, and her poster creations related to the oil industry and the environment are going up around city streets, in bus shelters and other spots.

"Canada is sacrificing democratic and human rights for oil industry profits," she said.[/QUOTE]

Harper thinks he's going to get a blow-job in heaven for speeding up Armagedon.
 

petros

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If Canadian heavy oil were to stop today, it would end any form of crisis that may or may not exist? You don't think Venezula would pick up where we left off with heavy oil from the Orinoco river basin? They have almost as much as we do. We currently import from there for oil in eastern Canada. Is it good that Canadians are destroying the Orinoco by using Venezuelan heavy oil?

SAVE THE ORINOCO INSIST ON CANDAIAN OIL
 

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While I admit the Oilsands cirremtly in development look nasty, nobody seems to want to admit that when they're finished, the reclamation is incredibly good and is flourishing. Why isn't that part of the discussion??

All the feds have done is streamlined the environmental approval process. Why have a dozen different departments, federal and provincial, review the same thing? The environmental process is still the same - its going through the same process - its just that its been reduced to a more palitable size.

I guess environmentalists want 1000 people to do what 100 could do just as well. Well, its Canadian tax dollars and I want it spent wisely. I encourage environmental reviews - we need them to ensure that things stay on track but I want it done responsibly and economically as well. But what's money to Suzuki - he has lots of it himself. I don't see him reducing his lifestyle a bit. I guess what happens doesn't apply to him. No matter what Harper (or any government that is pro business) but especially Harper does, Suzuki and his ilk would be against it. He simply hates the fact that a government just doesn't automatically bow his his line of thinking. He'd prefer it if everyone just genuflected to his "intellectual verbage" and superior ego. Afterall, he's a "super star" isn't he?

JMHO

The environmentalists like Suzuki are simply con artists as far as I'm concerned. They hate the fact the the current federal government is pro business, especially since its Harper. But I suspect they'd have the same reaction if it wasn't Harper but a government still pro business. After all, they really don't "work" for a living relying on "foundations" and gullible people to send money to these foundations in order to fill their pockets.

Take Suzuki for example - in fact, take his lifestyle - not many of us have the pleasure. He's a hypocrite of the first order.

The federal government streamlined the environmental approval process but the process itself has not changed. Suzuki just wants 1000 people to do what 100 could do easily. Rather than stating that fact, they'd rather state that the government has reduced environmental reviewing which is patently false. I suppose, like anything else, you say something repeatedly and often enough, people believe it. Makes me mad.

JMHO

I've tried posting twice with a failry lengthy diatribe only to lose it. I'm not sure why - I hit the PQR button and bam - it was gone. I'm not doing it again so all I can say is this...Suzuki Sucks! lol

JMO

Oh, there it is!! Sorry!