Eco-Terrorist Suzuki at it again.

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Some of us like making money and take pride in a job well done.

LMAO. On another thread you were saying you take in boarders. Your latest get-rich-quick scheme?

If he's a terrorist, should you not be reporting it to the RCMP rather than just wasting your time informing us here? What do you want me to do about it? I don't have anything on him. If you do, then turn it over to the RCMP pronto as is your legal duty.

There is no legal duty in Canada to report crime other than child molestation.

Hmmm. I like the idea of voucher schools, since there are actually valid arguments in its favour.

Voucher schools are a conservative idea aimed at allowing them to control education. We have seen what the results of that are in the US, Bubba meets Alfred E. Neumann.
 

Zipperfish

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As I said oil spill response is not a governmental responsibility and the feds rightfully got out of it. One less bit of state nannyism. This is purely a matter for private business. It is in the shareholder's best interests for management to ensure they have an adequate plan in place or they will rightfully be fined right into bankruptcy court and quite possibly criminal court as well.

Well, if that's the case, then I'd just as soon not have a pipeline anywhere near me then. Which seems to be the common notion in BC. I don't profit from it.
 

petros

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More than 20,000 barrels of fracked oil seeped from a ruptured pipeline over 7 acres of remote North Dakota wheat fields, oozing 10 feet into the clay soil and killing crops. Farmer Steven Jensen found the mess on his land on Sept. 29.
Frakked oil? Killed crops?

Bullsh*t is the only thing oozing.

Well, if that's the case, then I'd just as soon not have a pipeline anywhere near me then. Which seems to be the common notion in BC. I don't profit from it.
You don't profit from it? Do you profit from wheat?
 

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As I said oil spill response is not a governmental responsibility and the feds rightfully got out of it. One less bit of state nannyism. This is purely a matter for private business. It is in the shareholder's best interests for management to ensure they have an adequate plan in place or they will rightfully be fined right into bankruptcy court and quite possibly criminal court as well.
Ah, that is so BC Socred/BC Reform/Liberal government - put the fox in charge of the hen house. Great thinking if you are not a hen.
 

petros

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BC is lacking in environmental laws and management?

Who is going manage the all the NG pipelines?

Which is worse?

An oil pipeline rupture or an NG pipeline rupture?

Or an oil tanker sinking or an LNG tanker sinking?
 

Cliffy

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BC is lacking in environmental laws and management?

Who is going manage the all the NG pipelines?

Which is worse?

An oil pipeline rupture or an NG pipeline rupture?

Or an oil tanker sinking or an LNG tanker sinking?
BC laid off practically all forestry and environmental staff thanks to Gordo. We have one wildlife officer in all the Kootenays. All of the above suck. Send them east and south. If I had my way, BC would become an World Wildlife Reserve.
 

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BC laid off practically all forestry and environmental staff thanks to Gordo. We have one wildlife officer in all the Kootenays. All of the above suck. Send them east and south. If I had my way, BC would become an World Wildlife Reserve.

Then you best start packing. Oh and you can kiss your government cheque goodbye.
 

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BC laid off practically all forestry and environmental staff thanks to Gordo. We have one wildlife officer in all the Kootenays. All of the above suck. Send them east and south. If I had my way, BC would become an World Wildlife Reserve.


Are connecting the dots on this yet?


  1. BC voters decide to push out the forestry industry
  2. BC voters elect to run-off the mining sector.
  3. BC voters determine that high taxes are the best way to go.

So, to review: You have gutted your primary industries that (historically) employed 10s or 100' of thousands of people, followed that up with heinous eco-taxes, PST and high income taxes, and now wonder why the gvt can't afford enviro and forestry staff....


Am I the only one that sees this really clearly?
 

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Are connecting the dots on this yet?


  1. BC voters decide to push out the forestry industry
  2. BC voters elect to run-off the mining sector.
  3. BC voters determine that high taxes are the best way to go.
So, to review: You have gutted your primary industries that (historically) employed 10s or 100' of thousands of people, followed that up with heinous eco-taxes, PST and high income taxes, and now wonder why the gvt can't afford enviro and forestry staff....


Am I the only one that sees this really clearly?

The forestry sector still represents an appreciable portion of BC's economy, so I don't know what you mean about "pushing out" the forestry industry. If anything the goverernment took the side of the forestry industry, using taxpayers dolars to advertise in Europe in the 80s when a lot of nations were boycotting BC wood due to clearcutting. In the end, the industry and government here adopted a more sustainable approach, and the industry (with the exception of pulp, which has tanked globally) is still a moneymaker.

Mining is growing sector in BC. We have 20 major mines, 30 mineral producers and 2 smelters. As well, Vancouver is a global centre of mining finance. The construction of the Site C dam will increase electricity supply so that mines can continue to operate affordably. There are some 30 new mines in various stages of permitting.

As well, port expansions have increased the ability to move product overseas. And there are huge port infrastructure projects presently in the works for Prince Rupert and Vancouver.

We are and always have been a resource-based economy. However, most people these days are interested in a sustainable economy. Not a greenwash and a dog&pony show.
 

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The forestry sector still represents an appreciable portion of BC's economy, so I don't know what you mean about "pushing out" the forestry industry. If anything the goverernment took the side of the forestry industry, using taxpayers dolars to advertise in Europe in the 80s when a lot of nations were boycotting BC wood due to clearcutting. In the end, the industry and government here adopted a more sustainable approach, and the industry (with the exception of pulp, which has tanked globally) is still a moneymaker.

Mining is growing sector in BC. We have 20 major mines, 30 mineral producers and 2 smelters. As well, Vancouver is a global centre of mining finance. The construction of the Site C dam will increase electricity supply so that mines can continue to operate affordably. There are some 30 new mines in various stages of permitting.

As well, port expansions have increased the ability to move product overseas. And there are huge port infrastructure projects presently in the works for Prince Rupert and Vancouver.

We are and always have been a resource-based economy. However, most people these days are interested in a sustainable economy. Not a greenwash and a dog&pony show.


Have you looked into the regs that small miners must deal with? The regs are basically "come ask us what you can do and we will say no". The NDP started being utterly stupid about such things to make a bunch of university know it alls happy, then the Liberals kept it going, they were also afraid of the know it alls. The Suzuki syndrome.
Oddly though, large mining companies have little problem.
 

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Have you looked into the regs that small miners must deal with? The regs are basically "come ask us what you can do and we will say no". The NDP started being utterly stupid about such things to make a bunch of university know it alls happy, then the Liberals kept it going, they were also afraid of the know it alls. The Suzuki syndrome.
Oddly though, large mining companies have little problem.

No I'm not really plugged in to what is happening with the placer miners.
 

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The forestry sector still represents an appreciable portion of BC's economy, so I don't know what you mean about "pushing out" the forestry industry. If anything the goverernment took the side of the forestry industry, using taxpayers dolars to advertise in Europe in the 80s when a lot of nations were boycotting BC wood due to clearcutting. In the end, the industry and government here adopted a more sustainable approach, and the industry (with the exception of pulp, which has tanked globally) is still a moneymaker.

Mining is growing sector in BC. We have 20 major mines, 30 mineral producers and 2 smelters. As well, Vancouver is a global centre of mining finance. The construction of the Site C dam will increase electricity supply so that mines can continue to operate affordably. There are some 30 new mines in various stages of permitting.

As well, port expansions have increased the ability to move product overseas. And there are huge port infrastructure projects presently in the works for Prince Rupert and Vancouver.

We are and always have been a resource-based economy. However, most people these days are interested in a sustainable economy. Not a greenwash and a dog&pony show.
Each of those mines is a disaster in slow motion. I'm glad you approve.
 

Zipperfish

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Each of those mines is a disaster in slow motion. I'm glad you approve.




It's the Petros dance.
 

taxslave

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The forestry sector still represents an appreciable portion of BC's economy, so I don't know what you mean about "pushing out" the forestry industry. If anything the goverernment took the side of the forestry industry, using taxpayers dolars to advertise in Europe in the 80s when a lot of nations were boycotting BC wood due to clearcutting. In the end, the industry and government here adopted a more sustainable approach, and the industry (with the exception of pulp, which has tanked globally) is still a moneymaker.

Mining is growing sector in BC. We have 20 major mines, 30 mineral producers and 2 smelters. As well, Vancouver is a global centre of mining finance. The construction of the Site C dam will increase electricity supply so that mines can continue to operate affordably. There are some 30 new mines in various stages of permitting.

As well, port expansions have increased the ability to move product overseas. And there are huge port infrastructure projects presently in the works for Prince Rupert and Vancouver.

We are and always have been a resource-based economy. However, most people these days are interested in a sustainable economy. Not a greenwash and a dog&pony show.

Just look at how many mills have gone. We as a group have managed to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. There is more than enough blame to go around too. Greedy unions, greedy foreign owners, greedy politicians, federal, provincial, and most importantly municipal all with both hands in the cookie jar. Topped off with a slew of regulations from numerous levels of government have made it unprofitable to operate a mill in BC.
 

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Well, if that's the case, then I'd just as soon not have a pipeline anywhere near me then. Which seems to be the common notion in BC. I don't profit from it.

Have you ever noticed how some conservatives think we must support all business, even business that does nothing for us? Business leaders are the ultimate communists - "support 'Our Great Collective' (but don't talk about wages and benefits, you commie)".