Christmas 1, Holiday Tree 0
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Hmmm - Do conifers celebrate Christmas?
Are all Christmas trees "spruce"?8O You better go back to "Christmas Trees". Much easier.
I love these pagan aspects (trees and lights) of Christmas. They truly do represent the celebration of the return of the Sun. And, of course, call them Christmas trees during this Festival of Lights. Besides, Christmas has become a secular feast celebrating all children and every family.
"Gawd bless us, everyone!"
I guess I don't have a good "nose". Other than the very moment a "real" tree comes into the house, I can say that I have never walked into anyone's house and been able to notice the smell of the real tree anymore than my artificial one. In 45 years, we are on our 3rd fake tree so - we're not hard on the environment. I hate the dead needles all over my house that seem to last into next summer no matter how much vacuuming you do. My tree works perfect for me. Neither my husband or myself like putting the lights on the tree and he doesn't like decorating anything. So - my fake tree, comes with lights already on it and it takes very few decorations to make it look highly decorated. When Christmas is over - hubby helps me put it back into the tree bag and he takes it downstairs to store for next year. It's no biggie. I do not believe we have either added to nor taken away from the environment in anyway. We have just done what works for us.
In regard to people claiming there are people who are against Christmas trees - baloney. People who come here from foreign places love our Christmas trees and who wouldn't? They are bright and festive. Many of them put up Christmas trees themselves. Tis the season to be Jolly!!!
In regard to people claiming there are people who are against Christmas trees - baloney. People who come here from foreign places love our Christmas trees and who wouldn't? They are bright and festive. Many of them put up Christmas trees themselves. Tis the season to be Jolly!!!
Of course Old Vicky did have some German blood through her ancestor George I from Hanover.
Hmmm - Do conifers celebrate Christmas?
Actually Balsam makes for one of the nicer Xmas trees. :smile:
Yeah, my wife is under the same delusion, just no appreciation for the real thing, the world is already too cluttered up with artificial garbage without adding more.
Obama Couldn’t Wait: His New Christmas Tree Tax
President Obama’s Agriculture Department today announced that it will impose a new 15-cent charge on all fresh Christmas trees—the Christmas Tree Tax—to support a new Federal program to improve the image and marketing of Christmas trees.
In the Federal Register of November 8, 2011, Acting Administrator of Agricultural Marketing David R. Shipman announced that the Secretary of Agriculture will appoint a Christmas Tree Promotion Board. The purpose of the Board is to run a “program of promotion, research, evaluation, and information designed to strengthen the Christmas tree industry’s position in the marketplace; maintain and expend existing markets for Christmas trees; and to carry out programs, plans, and projects designed to provide maximum benefits to the Christmas tree industry” (7 CFR 1214.46
more bafflegab here:
Obama Couldn't Wait: His New Christmas Tree Tax
Oh wait a minute...you thought we meant we were gonna tax your Christmas trees? Go on, don't be silly now.
Obama Administration to Delay New 15-Cent Christmas Tree Tax
The U.S. Department of Agriculture is going to delay implementation and revisit a proposed new 15 cent fee on fresh-cut Christmas trees, sources tell ABC News. The fee, requested by the National Christmas Tree Association in 2009, was first announced in the Federal Registry yesterday and has generated criticism of President Obama from conservative media outlets.
The well-trafficked Drudge Report is leading with the story, linking to a blog by David Addington, a former top aide to then-Vice President Dick Cheney, at the conservative Heritage Foundation assailing the president thus: “The economy is barely growing and nine percent of the American people have no jobs. Is a new tax on Christmas trees the best President Obama can do? And, by the way, the American Christmas tree has a great image that doesn’t need any help from the government.”
more
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...tion-to-delay-new-15-cent-christmas-tree-fee/
Those that want to stand firm on tradition can do so. No one is stopping them. That does not mean that everyone has the same "traditional" values .
How is the commercialism of Xmas a traditional value??? Or are "traditions" adapted according to what folks want at any given time??
Even if that is the case..... that is their choice. One thing folks cannot stop and it is CHANGE. That is the one constant in life , so one can easily see that even traditions are modified with time.
Is Xmas today the same as it was 500 yrs ago?? What was "tradition" in that era??? Does anyone know for a fact??
Folks that come to N.America for whatever reason......bring their own culture with them. How they celebrate their traditions is THEIR choice... or otherwise this continent is not the "free" place it advertizes to be.
How is the commercialism of Xmas a traditional value??? Or are "traditions" adapted according to what folks want at any given time??
Even if that is the case..... that is their choice. One thing folks cannot stop and it is CHANGE. That is the one constant in life , so one can easily see that even traditions are modified with time.
Is Xmas today the same as it was 500 yrs ago?? What was "tradition" in that era??? Does anyone know for a fact??
Folks that come to N.America for whatever reason......bring their own culture with them. How they celebrate their traditions is THEIR choice... or otherwise this continent is not the "free" place it advertizes to be.
Found something in the news and thought I would post it here. Before doing so, performed my due diligence to check for an existing thread and found this old one, which will do nicely :lol:
Scott Walker's war on Christmas:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/wisconsin-governor-asks-supporters-donate-campaign-buying-christmas-presents-article-1.1536556
The nerve! Eff off ehh! :roll:
Scott Walker's war on Christmas:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/wisconsin-governor-asks-supporters-donate-campaign-buying-christmas-presents-article-1.1536556
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker is encouraging supporters to get into the Christmas spirit by donating to his campaign.
The Republican leader's campaign team sent out an email out last week pushing backers to give money to the Walker reelection effort instead of spending it on Christmas presents for their children.
"Instead of venturing into the cold this Black Friday, stay in and give your children a gift that will keep on giving," an email from the group, called Friends of Scott Walker, stated.
The Republican leader's campaign team sent out an email out last week pushing backers to give money to the Walker reelection effort instead of spending it on Christmas presents for their children.
"Instead of venturing into the cold this Black Friday, stay in and give your children a gift that will keep on giving," an email from the group, called Friends of Scott Walker, stated.
The nerve! Eff off ehh! :roll:
First of all the Governor in my view I would not support in an election.
Public Sector unions have their place as do company Board of Directors.
On the Christmas tree issue. I agree its Christmas and its time people
started respecting the long standing traditions of our society.
There is a confusion of facts in the Christmas debate however. It is not
the immigrants who object to Christmas being Christmas. I have some
Muslim friends and a number of Sikh friends who don't understand why
they are blamed for taking the Christmas out of the holiday season as it
were. My Muslim friends point out Christ is there second most important
person in their faith. Sikhs put up Christmas trees and use it at a backdrop
to own version of the celebration. The real problem is not the immigrants.
The real problem those politically correct idiots who have no life of their
own so they insist that no one else should either. We should not be just
blaming people who come here for the actions of the politically correct
Grinch lets be clear.
Public Sector unions have their place as do company Board of Directors.
On the Christmas tree issue. I agree its Christmas and its time people
started respecting the long standing traditions of our society.
There is a confusion of facts in the Christmas debate however. It is not
the immigrants who object to Christmas being Christmas. I have some
Muslim friends and a number of Sikh friends who don't understand why
they are blamed for taking the Christmas out of the holiday season as it
were. My Muslim friends point out Christ is there second most important
person in their faith. Sikhs put up Christmas trees and use it at a backdrop
to own version of the celebration. The real problem is not the immigrants.
The real problem those politically correct idiots who have no life of their
own so they insist that no one else should either. We should not be just
blaming people who come here for the actions of the politically correct
Grinch lets be clear.
It's a funny thing Petros, but quite often the people who do the most interfering are the ones who are least affected. Do you remember Bill Konyk (aka Hunky Bill) who had the Perogy restaurant on Granville St.? "Hunky Bill" was a moniker he imbued on himself, but be damned if a bunch of interfering old women didn't want the name "outlawed" because it was a racial desecration. -
Quite true. It's not like it was hurting anyone by calling it a Christmas Tree. And potentially getting in trouble with an employer for wishing someone a Merry Christmas? Bah Humbug! It's not like they're suddenly going to melt, right?
A Christmas tree is simply not a religious symbol. Nor is Merry Christmas a religious blessing. I wouldn't be put out if some said "Happy Holidays" to me, because it's the same thing basically.