" A majority PM can be dictatorial, arrogant, ignoring of the opposition and get away with it,"- OH you mean like Trudeau.
Chrétien, Broadbent brokering possible coalition: reports
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SirJoe, I agree with what you're saying, but I'd expand on the line, "Harper is going to learn
this lesson the hard way." I think all of Canada is going to learn, and pay, to learn this lesson
the hard way.
Much as I hate to say it, seven weeks after the last Federal election, but another Election now
might be the lesser of all evils and by far the most cost effective as opposed to this three-headed
-cluster-smozzle that we're looking at coming into play very, very soon. At this point I don't care
who wins, as long as someone does, and we only have to pay for one parties vote purchasing
promises at one time...
Now really, Ron, what is the most likely outcome of another election? Why, another minority, of course. How is that going to solve anything?
Assuming the coalition succeeds in forming the government, i would hope they govern at least for a year and a half. Then Canadians can make up their mind who they would prefer to be in charge. If coalition is successful in stemming the economic turmoil, Liberals may well get a majority.
On the other hand, if coalition makes a royal mess of things (and especially they solve the economic problems in USA), Canadians may want to give Harper a majority.
But another election right now will simply produce another minority.
Assuming the coalition succeeds in forming the government, i would hope they govern at least for a year and a half. Then Canadians can make up their mind who they would prefer to be in charge. If coalition is successful in stemming the economic turmoil, Liberals may well get a majority.
On the other hand, if coalition makes a royal mess of things (and especially they solve the economic problems in USA), Canadians may want to give Harper a majority.
But another election right now will simply produce another minority.
SirJoe, I honestly don't think this power play has anything to do with this mini-budget,
beyond the Opposition losing out on some tax payer funding. If the motivation isn't
about the economic turmoil, then we're going to be in for one ugly ride as Canadians.
Oh well....enjoy the ride as with 30 million plus Canadians not being one of the 308
MP's....all we can do it watch, and pay.
beyond the Opposition losing out on some tax payer funding. If the motivation isn't
about the economic turmoil, then we're going to be in for one ugly ride as Canadians.
Oh well....enjoy the ride as with 30 million plus Canadians not being one of the 308
MP's....all we can do it watch, and pay.
According to Canadian Press (link in a previous post) NDP and Bloc had the same plan including the Cons to oust Martin. Freakin' drama!
And, if I remember correctly, the deal fell through because the Conservatives would not work with the BQ......
BIG difference.
Wolf, I missed that link all together somehow. I'll read that before I head for bed.
If the Libs didn't know ... REALLY big difference. Your post would indicate the Cons knew about their deal....
Curiosity begs here,
Both Chretien and Broadbent are in their 70s and I am wondering why at their ages having both served their country politically for so long .....why they would want to get back into the `rat-race` again.
Unless it is felt that both still carry weight with their respective parties in this coalition attempt.
Hopefully they will both succeed in this endeavour.
regards,
scratch
Both Chretien and Broadbent are in their 70s and I am wondering why at their ages having both served their country politically for so long .....why they would want to get back into the `rat-race` again.
Unless it is felt that both still carry weight with their respective parties in this coalition attempt.
Hopefully they will both succeed in this endeavour.
regards,
scratch
The Links (being in grey now) are tough to spot. Even looking back at my own
posts, a link is easy to miss now. I wish the article in Lone Wolf's link described
why that coalition didn't take place.
Harper wasn't a clueless puppet like Dion's people claim that Dion is. Can someone
post a link to verify that Harper walked away so as not to have to collude with a
Party who's mandate is to rip Canada apart?
I still don't think this toppling (potential) of the Conservative Government has anything
to do with the economy (beyond using it as an excuse), and is just about the Porkbarrel.
What an ugly mess. At least the Bloc is open about wanting Canada to split apart and that
ROC is just an open wallet to further their goals. Jack Layton, though I didn't vote for him,
I thought (in a twisted NDP anti-business sort of way) had Canada's best interests in mind.
I guess I was very wrong.
posts, a link is easy to miss now. I wish the article in Lone Wolf's link described
why that coalition didn't take place.
Harper wasn't a clueless puppet like Dion's people claim that Dion is. Can someone
post a link to verify that Harper walked away so as not to have to collude with a
Party who's mandate is to rip Canada apart?
I still don't think this toppling (potential) of the Conservative Government has anything
to do with the economy (beyond using it as an excuse), and is just about the Porkbarrel.
What an ugly mess. At least the Bloc is open about wanting Canada to split apart and that
ROC is just an open wallet to further their goals. Jack Layton, though I didn't vote for him,
I thought (in a twisted NDP anti-business sort of way) had Canada's best interests in mind.
I guess I was very wrong.
I'm not sure if I really like the idea of backroom deals. I mean, shades of Conservatism that rattles my faith in Layton's open concept ... especially with the Bloc....
Fear? I don't think so. In my book, treason is a hanging offense. I believe if you want a divorce, you go for the divorce. Agony is only stretched out over years and years by the very greedy. It's time to put sentiment aside and call the bluff. Fear? No, it's more like disgust - the same as I have for ambulance chasers.
The situation is
That in every civilized society the government support for parties is in place. In Europe, and in America.
The Tories just concluded an agreement with their unions so the right to strike was not even an immediate issue, until the government lit the fire of discontent.
Now it may even be that the Conservatives have breached the criminal code of Canada, The intercepted conversations picked up and given to the government were clearly illegal and for the government to do anything except get the RCMP to ivestigate, was also outside of the law. Read section184-1 of the criminal code.
Such a case happend years ago in BC when the then Attorney General, Bud Smith released conversations picked up from a mobile phone which led to his political resignation.
This government set out to provoke the opposition and do what it pleased right after making the make nice speech and now they are going to pay the price.
That in every civilized society the government support for parties is in place. In Europe, and in America.
The Tories just concluded an agreement with their unions so the right to strike was not even an immediate issue, until the government lit the fire of discontent.
Now it may even be that the Conservatives have breached the criminal code of Canada, The intercepted conversations picked up and given to the government were clearly illegal and for the government to do anything except get the RCMP to ivestigate, was also outside of the law. Read section184-1 of the criminal code.
Such a case happend years ago in BC when the then Attorney General, Bud Smith released conversations picked up from a mobile phone which led to his political resignation.
This government set out to provoke the opposition and do what it pleased right after making the make nice speech and now they are going to pay the price.
How does this work, it happend before decades ago the opposition brings down the government and informs the govenor general they have enough strength to form a government. All very legal, and constitutional. Besides with the Bloc, every Tory minority government of the future would be subject to the same thing they start implimenting conservative principals throw them out. works for me, get rid of Harper now.
the BQ who Harper publically stated he'd be willing to form a coalition government with to keep a potential Liberal/NDP coalition at bay a few years ago?