Chavez says U.S. occupying Haiti in name of aid

JBeee

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*Americans Hog Airport---Ignore Other Nationals, Starving Haitians*

Anger at US builds at Port-au-Prince airport
by Deborah Pasmantier

PORT-AU-PRINCE (AFP) – Anger built Saturday at Haiti's US-controlled main airport, where aid flights were still being turned away and poor coordination continued to hamper the relief effort four days on.

"Let's take over the runway," shouted one voice. "We need to send a message to (US President Barack) Obama," cried another.

Control remained in the hands of US forces, who face criticism for the continued disarray at the overwhelmed airfield.

Dozens of French citizens and dual Haitian-French nationals crowded the airport Saturday seeking to be evacuated after Tuesday's massive 7.0 earthquake, which leveled much of the capital Port-au-Prince.

But at the last minute, a plane due to take them to the French island of Guadeloupe was prevented from landing, leaving them to sleep on the tarmac, waiting for a way out.

"They're repatriating the Americans and not anyone else," said Charles Misteder, 50.

"The American monopoly has to end. They are dominating us and not allowing us to return home."

The crowd accused American forces, who were handed control of the airport by Haitian authorities, of monopolizing the airfield's single runway to evacuate their own citizens.

The US embassy denied it was putting the evacuation of the approximately 40,000 to 45,000 American citizens in the country first.

Others waiting for a way out were taken aback by the chaotic scenes confronted them when they arrived at the Toussaint L'Ouverture airport.

"I haven't been able to tell my family that I'm alive. The coordination is a joke," said Wilfried Brevil, a 33-year-old housekeeper.

"I was at the Christopher Hotel," said Daniele Saada, referring to the headquarters of the UN peacekeeping force in Haiti, MINUSTAH.

"I was extremely shaken up. I was pulled out, the others weren't," added Saada, 65, a MINUSTAH employee.

"I decided to return to France. I have nothing and now I am stuck," she said, caught between fury at the chaos and sheer exhaustion.

The disorder even appeared to cause diplomatic ripples, with French Secretary of State for Cooperation Alain Joyandet telling reporters he had lodged a complaint with the United States over its handling of the Port-au-Prince airport.

"I have made an official protest to the Americans through the US embassy," he said at the Haitian airport after a French plane carrying a field hospital was turned away.

A spokesman for the French foreign ministry later denied France had registered protest, saying "Franco-US coordination in emergency aid for Haiti is being handled in the best way possible given the serious difficulties."

The US ambassador to Haiti defended American efforts at the small airport, which was up-and-running 24 hours after the massive quake, even though the air traffic control tower was damaged.


"We're working in coordination with the United Nations and the Haitians," said Ambassador Kenneth Merten, though he acknowledged some difficulties.

"Clearly it's necessary to prioritize the planes. It's clear that there's a problem."

Despite the chaos, a group of French citizens was eventually able to take off on Saturday, and the French plane carrying a field hospital landed safely around noon.

Still, with aid continuing to flood into the quake-stricken country, concern remains about the lack of coordination at the airport, and across devastated Port-au-Prince.

"The Haitians haven't been notified about the arrival of planes. And when they do land, there's no one to take charge and a large amount of goods are arriving without coordination," said Haitian government official Michel Chancy.
On Port-au-Prince's streets, the consequences of the coordination breakdown are clear, as traumatized and starving quake survivors approached passing foreigner and begged them for food.
 

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How is this any different than when France the UK or any other country evacs there own citizens first from African war zones or disasters etc?. Not the first and definitely not the last time this will happen.
 

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The country had very little infrastructure to begin with, and now it's worse. Trying to get all that aid into the country is a difficult job. Most rational people will understand that the job is difficult. The Americans are sending the most aid, aren't they? If anyone was going to control the flights, then it's probably best that it's from the nation lending the most support.
 

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The country had very little infrastructure to begin with, and now it's worse. Trying to get all that aid into the country is a difficult job. Most rational people will understand that the job is difficult. The Americans are sending the most aid, aren't they? If anyone was going to control the flights, then it's probably best that it's from the nation lending the most support.

Actually, it's best that the airport be controlled by the country with the best ability to move in with equipment and personnel who are trained to run an airport...which is the US. They have teams especially trained to move in and quickly control an airport with pretty much no remaining infrastructure.

In times of crisis, some people vent their frustrations in complaints; there are always logistical hassles.
 

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Actually, it's best that the airport be controlled by the country with the best ability to move in with equipment and personnel who are trained to run an airport...which is the US. They have teams especially trained to move in and quickly control an airport with pretty much no remaining infrastructure.

In times of crisis, some people vent their frustrations in complaints; there are always logistical hassles.

Yes, that's true. In a roundabout way that's kind of what I was getting at.

Complaining about who is leading is not a very good team attitude, which is needed in these situations.
 

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This complaining is typical socialist mentality. I want mine now and to hell with everyone else. They are lucky there is even a runway left to use and people on the ground that know how to control the chaos.
 

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Anger at US builds at Port-au-Prince airport
by Deborah Pasmantier

PORT-AU-PRINCE (AFP) – Anger built Saturday at Haiti's US-controlled main airport, where aid flights were still being turned away and poor coordination continued to hamper the relief effort four days on.

"Let's take over the runway," shouted one voice. "We need to send a message to (US President Barack) Obama," cried another.

Control remained in the hands of US forces, who face criticism for the continued disarray at the overwhelmed airfield.

Dozens of French citizens and dual Haitian-French nationals crowded the airport Saturday seeking to be evacuated after Tuesday's massive 7.0 earthquake, which leveled much of the capital Port-au-Prince.

But at the last minute, a plane due to take them to the French island of Guadeloupe was prevented from landing, leaving them to sleep on the tarmac, waiting for a way out.

"They're repatriating the Americans and not anyone else," said Charles Misteder, 50.

"The American monopoly has to end. They are dominating us and not allowing us to return home."

The crowd accused American forces, who were handed control of the airport by Haitian authorities, of monopolizing the airfield's single runway to evacuate their own citizens.

The US embassy denied it was putting the evacuation of the approximately 40,000 to 45,000 American citizens in the country first.

Others waiting for a way out were taken aback by the chaotic scenes confronted them when they arrived at the Toussaint L'Ouverture airport.

"I haven't been able to tell my family that I'm alive. The coordination is a joke," said Wilfried Brevil, a 33-year-old housekeeper.

"I was at the Christopher Hotel," said Daniele Saada, referring to the headquarters of the UN peacekeeping force in Haiti, MINUSTAH.

"I was extremely shaken up. I was pulled out, the others weren't," added Saada, 65, a MINUSTAH employee.

"I decided to return to France. I have nothing and now I am stuck," she said, caught between fury at the chaos and sheer exhaustion.

The disorder even appeared to cause diplomatic ripples, with French Secretary of State for Cooperation Alain Joyandet telling reporters he had lodged a complaint with the United States over its handling of the Port-au-Prince airport.

"I have made an official protest to the Americans through the US embassy," he said at the Haitian airport after a French plane carrying a field hospital was turned away.

A spokesman for the French foreign ministry later denied France had registered protest, saying "Franco-US coordination in emergency aid for Haiti is being handled in the best way possible given the serious difficulties."

The US ambassador to Haiti defended American efforts at the small airport, which was up-and-running 24 hours after the massive quake, even though the air traffic control tower was damaged.


"We're working in coordination with the United Nations and the Haitians," said Ambassador Kenneth Merten, though he acknowledged some difficulties.

"Clearly it's necessary to prioritize the planes. It's clear that there's a problem."

Despite the chaos, a group of French citizens was eventually able to take off on Saturday, and the French plane carrying a field hospital landed safely around noon.

Still, with aid continuing to flood into the quake-stricken country, concern remains about the lack of coordination at the airport, and across devastated Port-au-Prince.

"The Haitians haven't been notified about the arrival of planes. And when they do land, there's no one to take charge and a large amount of goods are arriving without coordination," said Haitian government official Michel Chancy.
On Port-au-Prince's streets, the consequences of the coordination breakdown are clear, as traumatized and starving quake survivors approached passing foreigner and begged them for food.


Have not seen any aid from your Islamic Buddies now have you - Look at the situation on the ground - city destroyed - roads blocked - what a freanking asholx you are.
 

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Have not seen any aid from your Islamic Buddies now have you - Look at the situation on the ground - city destroyed - roads blocked - what a freanking asholx you are.
That is a great point, but then Islams aren't loving. They are probably sitting back laughing.
 

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Perhaps the problem is due to the long line-ups...you know..body searches, scanning of luggage etc with the recent US policy regarding flights entering American soil?:cool:
 

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Perhaps the problem is due to the long line-ups...you know..body searches, scanning of luggage etc with the recent US policy regarding flights entering American soil?:cool:
Still on the close side and i do mean close side of stupid - The staff would have been overwhelmed - the carriers also can handle aircraft waiting to land - Not a word of sense from you - what a miserable life you have.
 

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I wonder, if it`s thier priority to get thier fellow country-men out first before doing what they should be doing...helping the true victims of this tragedy?

WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE — Eighty search-and-rescue experts and their high-tech listening gear, camera probes and sniffer dogs were packed and ready to go to earthquake-ravaged Haiti on Saturday, Jan. 16, when their mission was called off at the last minute.

The federal office of foreign disaster assistance told the Federal Emergency Management Agency that the Ohio Task Force One’s mission was canceled, said Task Force One spokesman Scott Hall.

“They’ve advised that there are no resources needed from the urban search and rescue system today in Haiti. The reason for that is that there is little infrastructure there and there is a lack of resources etcetera in order to support our teams on the ground,” Hall said.

Relief agencies from around the world continue to have difficulty getting into Port-au-Prince’s one-runway airport, he added.

The team, which is made up of firefighters, paramedics, structural engineers and others from Ohio and Kentucky, will remain on stand-by through Sunday.

“Our team is remaining positive, though disappointed, about not being in the air already and going to help the people that they’ve trained for the last 20 years or so to do this job,” Hall said.

Ohio Task Force One has 60 tons of equipment designed to support the 80-member team for up to two weeks. The gear included generators, ropes, cameras, listening equipment, hand tools, tents, fuel, food and water.

Most of it had been loaded on two C-17 cargo planes that landed mid-day Saturday at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. But it was quickly unloaded and the planes reassigned to other missions a couple of hours later.
Hall said it’s common for missions to change on short notice.

At least four other urban search and rescue teams with 330 members from across the nation are already in Haiti, digging through rubble, according to the USAID.

The 7.0-magnitude earthquake on Tuesday collapsed buildings, killed tens of thousands of people and left untold numbers of others injured, damaged roads and the seaport at the capital of Port-au-Prince, complicating efforts to deliver and distribute emergency supplies and services.

Usually, Ohio Task Force One drives to disaster sites, including New York after the 9/11 terrorist attacks and New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. Haiti would be its first foreign deployment.

Ohio Task Force One member and Dayton Fire Capt. Mike Kennedy, who was interviewed before the mission was cancelled, said “New York City was one thing. But we didn’t have bodies laying around. This is going to be completely different.”

The team had been waiting since Thursday to fly to Haiti. Hall said local governments that have been paying the team members overtime while they waited will eventually be reimbursed for the pay.
 

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I wonder, if it`s thier priority to get thier fellow country-men out first before doing what they should be doing...helping the true victims of this tragedy?

WRIGHT-PATTERSON AIR FORCE BASE — Eighty search-and-rescue experts and their high-tech listening gear, camera probes and sniffer dogs were packed and ready to go to earthquake-ravaged Haiti on Saturday, Jan. 16, when their mission was called off at the last minute.

The federal office of foreign disaster assistance told the Federal Emergency Management Agency that the Ohio Task Force One’s mission was canceled, said Task Force One spokesman Scott Hall.

“They’ve advised that there are no resources needed from the urban search and rescue system today in Haiti. The reason for that is that there is little infrastructure there and there is a lack of resources etcetera in order to support our teams on the ground,” Hall said.

Relief agencies from around the world continue to have difficulty getting into Port-au-Prince’s one-runway airport, he added.

The team, which is made up of firefighters, paramedics, structural engineers and others from Ohio and Kentucky, will remain on stand-by through Sunday.

“Our team is remaining positive, though disappointed, about not being in the air already and going to help the people that they’ve trained for the last 20 years or so to do this job,” Hall said.

Ohio Task Force One has 60 tons of equipment designed to support the 80-member team for up to two weeks. The gear included generators, ropes, cameras, listening equipment, hand tools, tents, fuel, food and water.

Most of it had been loaded on two C-17 cargo planes that landed mid-day Saturday at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. But it was quickly unloaded and the planes reassigned to other missions a couple of hours later.
Hall said it’s common for missions to change on short notice.

At least four other urban search and rescue teams with 330 members from across the nation are already in Haiti, digging through rubble, according to the USAID.

The 7.0-magnitude earthquake on Tuesday collapsed buildings, killed tens of thousands of people and left untold numbers of others injured, damaged roads and the seaport at the capital of Port-au-Prince, complicating efforts to deliver and distribute emergency supplies and services.

Usually, Ohio Task Force One drives to disaster sites, including New York after the 9/11 terrorist attacks and New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. Haiti would be its first foreign deployment.

Ohio Task Force One member and Dayton Fire Capt. Mike Kennedy, who was interviewed before the mission was cancelled, said “New York City was one thing. But we didn’t have bodies laying around. This is going to be completely different.”

The team had been waiting since Thursday to fly to Haiti. Hall said local governments that have been paying the team members overtime while they waited will eventually be reimbursed for the pay.

Personally I do not think you have the ability to wonder only hate - ever hear of triage - ever think that those that are there how many would stay -do you ever think?