Chavez says U.S. occupying Haiti in name of aid

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My thread is doin fine Goober...lots of opinions being shared. Join in sir!!:cool:
Sometime the word Goof is used in fun - I was using it the way an inmate uses the word to describe certain ans specific type of individual -
 

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What is wrong with America? How can they let 100,000 people die in an Obama created earthquake, then have the gall to take over the airport?
 

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Anyone know a good realtor in Haiti? I mean a good one, not run of the mill. One that will drop all lifesaving activities to escort me around the Island. I'm hoping to find good oil rich property at rock bottom earthqauke-sale prices. I want in on the secret stash.
 

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Sometime the word Goof is used in fun - I was using it the way an inmate uses the word to describe certain ans specific type of individual -

I was told by the warden at the grande cache medium security prison last spring where I was doing some work to never ever call an inmate a goof as I was working inside the wall.:lol:

I didnt ask why.
I could see it in his eyes8O
 

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Here's the real skinny on the bottleneck at the airport,for every plane that has a slot to come in there is 12 circleing overhead without one,in other words they didnt make arrangements for a slot.
 

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Well, Canada has two C-17s, a couple Hercs, and a helicopter contingent that seem to be getting in and out with no more than normal problems considering that there is only one runway. One of the Frigates also brought helicopters. The biggest problem is getting the goods where they are needed.
 

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By CBC News, cbc.ca, Updated: January 18, 2010 2:28 PM
Canadian Forces head to port town of Jacmel







Canada's disaster response team in Haiti will focus its aid efforts for the earthquake-ravaged Caribbean country on the port town of Jacmel, Brig.-Gen. Guy Laroche says.
Laroche, speaking from Port-au-Prince alongside Canada's ambassador to Haiti, Gilles Rivard, said the Disaster Assistance Response Team has been asked by the Haitian government to focus on the town that lies about 30 kilometres southwest of the capital of Port-au-Prince.
Laroche said he travelled with Haitian Prime Minister Jean-Max Bellerive to see the damage in the town of 40,000 — a popular tourist destination — and saw that the hospital was half destroyed by the quake. The road into Jacmel has been cut off from the rest of the country since last Tuesday's quake, making delivery of aid difficult.
Canadian ships HMCS Athabaskan and HMCS Halifax, loaded with relief supplies, were just north of Haiti early Monday. Laroche said that while Athabaskan will move to west of Port-au-Prince, Halifax is bound for Jacmel.
Logistical issues at Jacmel port
Defence Minister Peter MacKay had earlier said the region faces other logistical challenges. The airport, little more than a runway, is capable of landing a Hercules aircraft but not the larger CC-117 transports, he said.
The town's port, while not unusable, is still not equipped to handle a ship the size of the two Canadian vessels arriving Monday, meaning supplies and personnel would have to be ferried from the ships to the port, he said.
Jacmel is also the hometown of the father of Gov. Gen. Michaëlle Jean.
However Dan Dugas, a spokesman for MacKay, said the governor general had no hand in the decision, which was made based "on the recommendation of the brigadier general on the ground."
As Canadian forces arrive in Haiti to provide more aid, Rivard said the process to get Canadians and their families out of the country has been complicated by crowds forming outside the embassy.
On Saturday, Immigration Canada said it will expedite immigration applications from Haitians with family in this country, while Haitians in Canada temporarily will also be allowed to extend their stay.
But Rivard said erroneous Haitian media reports circulated that said any Haitian citizen could obtain a visa to Canada by showing up at the embassy. That led to aggressive crowds forming outside the embassy on Sunday, and has slowed the process of determining immigration claims.
"I would say 90 per cent of the people that are here are here based on that rumour and not because they have a status of permanent resident or are close to getting that status of permanent resident," he said.
 

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Canada has sent two ships to Haiti. One is a Trible class Destroyer and the other is a Halifax class Frigate. Both ships are too large to get into the harbour at Port ua Prince so aid materials will have to be brought by small boats in from the ships.
Haiti doesn't seem to have infrastructure for anything. I don't mean the infrastructure was destroyed. They never had it.
 

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Canada has sent two ships to Haiti. One is a Trible class Destroyer and the other is a Halifax class Frigate. Both ships are too large to get into the harbour at Port ua Prince so aid materials will have to be brought by small boats in from the ships.
Haiti doesn't seem to have infrastructure for anything. I don't mean the infrastructure was destroyed. They never had it.

The Halifax is going to Jacmel, not Port-au-Prince, but the port still can't handle it.

Haiti seems to have missed out on the latter half of the 20th century.
 

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Canada has sent two ships to Haiti. One is a Trible class Destroyer and the other is a Halifax class Frigate. Both ships are too large to get into the harbour at Port ua Prince so aid materials will have to be brought by small boats in from the ships.
Haiti doesn't seem to have infrastructure for anything. I don't mean the infrastructure was destroyed. They never had it.
I think that's pretty much the problem that the country was in before, and the earthquake focused the world's attention on it. I sure hope it gets sorted out soon (before frustration breaks out into violence). People's strength only lasts so long. NYPD top cop Ray Kelly - in Haiti last week - says infrastructure weak, but people are strong
 

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Could be worse. The world could turn a blind eye to them like they did to the genocide that happened in Africa not so long ago. Canada and the USA have people living in the streets. Where is the help for them? Haiti has a junk airport. Not much they can do about that. Only so many planes can land no matter who controls it. They have lots of help coming by sea also. No matter what you do it will never be enough for some people.
 

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The bit about the only landing strip seems weird to me. I mean the Yanks were landing and taking off from hillsides in Viet Nam, Cambodia, etc. Sure as hell they could find a few spots to build more easily enough.
 

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There is a big difference between helicopters and a fully loaded jet. Helicopters have a short range. My brother flies them. The helis in Viet Nam where shipped over there. Canada and the USA help lots of countries around the world. What has Haiti done for the rest of the world? They are getting lots of help.
 

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I think that's pretty much the problem that the country was in before, and the earthquake focused the world's attention on it. I sure hope it gets sorted out soon (before frustration breaks out into violence). People's strength only lasts so long. NYPD top cop Ray Kelly - in Haiti last week - says infrastructure weak, but people are strong
What little infrastructure they had that worked the majority would have been destroyed - Think of rebuilding a city form the sewer and power lines up - Look at the difference between Haiti and the Dominican - History has left its mark quite clearly on the 2 -
 

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What little infrastructure they had that worked the majority would have been destroyed - Think of rebuilding a city form the sewer and power lines up - Look at the difference between Haiti and the Dominican - History has left its mark quite clearly on the 2 -
Um, yeah, I know all that. I don't live in a cave and hibernate over winters. :roll:
 

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The US is the largest donor of aid to Haiti. Haiti's air and sea ports sustained damage as a result of the earthquake. The US was first nation on the scene with the people and materials to get these ports operational.

I don't a problem with US actions as far as Haitian earthquake relief is concerned...
 

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The US is the largest donor of aid to Haiti. Haiti's air and sea ports sustained damage as a result of the earthquake. The US was first nation on the scene with the people and materials to get these ports operational.

I don't a problem with US actions as far as Haitian earthquake relief is concerned...
Tell that to JBeee - he would differ - anything American is bad -
 

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Um, yeah, I know all that. I don't live in a cave and hibernate over winters. :roll:
I did not imply that in any way - look at the 2 diferent economies - how each became independant - what direction the Dominican took and what Hiait took -

That was my point - No insult at all.