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DurkaDurka

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That is all very well, but does anybody know answer to my question? My guess is that some American porn websites keep their servers in Canada to escape the horrendous red tape and documentation requirements imposed on them by Bush administration.

Does anybody know of firsthand knowledge if my guess is right or not?

What red tape and documentation? I could set up a porn site in the states in a matter of hours.
 

DurkaDurka

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My point in bringing it up is that Canada is more ok with having soft porn on tv and not so much violence. The States are prudish about even soft porn on tv and like loads more violence. I think our priorities are better. lol

US networks are more prudish about "soft porn" over the air as they license those frequencies from the government and have to comply with FCC standards. On the opposite side, you have cable network like HBO, AMC which are not subject to the same regulations etc which show very progressive, adult shows.

When was the last time CBC or CTV showed porn?
 

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You evidently don’t know the history of your own country, EagleSmack. Religious right has mounted a Holy Crusade against pornography for a long time now. I can’t do your work for you, but Google for ‘religious right pornography’ and you will find plenty of research (including findings of the Meese commission appointed by Reagan).

THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT! THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT!

BLAH BLAH

The so called Religious Right is nothing more than a prop that the left liberals bring up each and every time they want to scare people.

"Better watch out for the religious right! They'll take your rights away."

Yes there is religion and a religious right but tell me... how did the religious right do with banning pornography? Powerless.

You know what else Joey... one of the biggest opposition to porn is the far left women's movement... Gloria Steinham and her crowd are big opponents of pornography. Do you purposely leave them out?
 

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Yes there is religion and a religious right but tell me... how did the religious right do with banning pornography? Powerless.

You know what else Joey... one of the biggest opposition to porn is the far left women's movement... Gloria Steinham and her crowd are big opponents of pornography. Do you purposely leave them out?

Religious right had plenty of success in the 80s in restricting pornography, especially with Reagan and Bush presidencies. Pornography used to be a hot button issue in US elections. Also, in pre internet days, they were able to shut down plenty of porn book stores, porn theaters etc, by picketing, threats and intimidation. Especially in southern states like Florida. They had also had some success in persuading some hotel chains not to carry porn in their rooms, with pay movies.

They seem to have given up because they were defeated by technology, by internet. It is practically impossible to restrict or ban pornography with the advent of internet. However, that doesn’t’ mean that they don’t want to ban pornography. As I said, there may not be a way right now, but the will is still there.
 

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You know what else Joey... one of the biggest opposition to porn is the far left women's movement... Gloria Steinham and her crowd are big opponents of pornography. Do you purposely leave them out?

Not to mention liberal men... the religious left especially.
 

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Just for laugh and giggles....I decided to investigate a porn site that came under discussion a while back in another forum...:smile:
And guess what???? located in the U.S.
Address lookup
canonical name redtube.com.
aliases
addresses 216.155.128.58
216.155.128.61
66.55.141.20
66.55.141.21
Domain Whois record

Queried whois.internic.net with "dom redtube.com"...

Domain Name: REDTUBE.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: Domain Names, Web Hosting and Online Marketing Services | Network Solutions
Name Server: NS1.CHOOPA.COM
Name Server: NS2.CHOOPA.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 24-jul-2009
Creation Date: 07-jan-2006
Expiration Date: 07-jan-2015

>>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:05:44 UTC <<<

Queried whois.networksolutions.com with "redtube.com"...

Registrant:
PRIVATE REGISTRATION
ATTN: REDTUBE.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 459
Drums, PA. 18222


Domain Name: REDTUBE.COM
 

SirJosephPorter

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Seems you are right, the US government amended the law to also affect secondary providers of the material, not just the producers. Recently though, that regulation was ruled as invalid by sixth circuit US appeal, but the DOJ was granted a review of the decision.

Adult film industry regulations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I did not know about the court decision. I remember the news item on CNN a few years ago (when Bush was the president) and I was going by memory. If courts overruled it, more power to the courts. Then I expect the requirement probably will disappear some time in the future.
 

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Religious right had plenty of success in the 80s in restricting pornography, especially with Reagan and Bush presidencies. Pornography used to be a hot button issue in US elections. Also, in pre internet days, they were able to shut down plenty of porn book stores, porn theaters etc, by picketing, threats and intimidation. Especially in southern states like Florida. They had also had some success in persuading some hotel chains not to carry porn in their rooms, with pay movies.

They seem to have given up because they were defeated by technology, by internet. It is practically impossible to restrict or ban pornography with the advent of internet. However, that doesn’t’ mean that they don’t want to ban pornography. As I said, there may not be a way right now, but the will is still there.

No REAGAN had plenty of success because of the ineptness of Jimmy Carter.

How did the religious right do against Clinton? How did they do against Obama? How did they do with Bush's 2nd term midterm elections? Not very well did they.

So the religious right is not as powerful as the far left tries to make them. Sure there is a religious right, but in the end it is the center that will decide.

You didn't want to touch me bringing up the Women's Movement being against porn did you?
 

SirJosephPorter

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You didn't want to touch me bringing up the Women's Movement being against porn did you?

Sure, why not? I think it is small fraction of Feminists, who oppose pornography. They oppose it not from religious viewpoint (as religious right does), but from the point of view of exploitation of women.

However, you won’t see Feminists picketing porn theatres, porn shops, you won’t see them delivering fire and brimstone sermons condemning pornography, you won’t see them voting in candidates who want to ban pornography, you won’t see them intimidating advertisers who advertise on pornographic shows etc.

There are a small number of Feminists who are opposed to pornography. Feminism is a big field, contrary to what some people think. For instance, did you know that there is an anti-abortion group, Feminists for Life?

But the anti-abortion or anti-pornography factions within Feminism are tiny and not influential, they do not represent the mainstream Feminism.
 

EagleSmack

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Sure, why not? I think it is small fraction of Feminists, who oppose pornography.

Are you soft! That is part of their movement.

They oppose it not from religious viewpoint (as religious right does), but from the point of view of exploitation of women.

Ah...doing your dance now are you? :lol:

And what if the religious right protests for their religion. Are they not allowed too?

However, you won’t see Feminists picketing porn theatres, porn shops,

Ok.

YouTube - Playboy store protest


YouTube - Anti-Porn March in Times Square (1979)


YouTube - WH Smiths Action

you won’t see them delivering fire and brimstone sermons condemning pornography, you won’t see them voting in candidates who want to ban pornography, you won’t see them intimidating advertisers who advertise on pornographic shows etc.

You don't get out much do you.

There are a small number of Feminists who are opposed to pornography.

This is a laugh. Research please?

Feminism is a big field, contrary to what some people think. For instance, did you know that there is an anti-abortion group, Feminists for Life?

Yes I do.

But the anti-abortion or anti-pornography factions within Feminism are tiny and not influential, they do not represent the mainstream Feminism.

So I guess Gloria Steinham does not represent mainstream feminism.
 

EagleSmack

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Not Quite So, old boy, I think you'd find that the mainstream feminists and the radical feminists are generally opposed to pornography, with only a small fraction who are not opposed.

Do you think he will ever admit to being wrong on this though?

I have no faith at all.
 

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Sure, why not? I think it is small fraction of Feminists, who oppose pornography. They oppose it not from religious viewpoint (as religious right does), but from the point of view of exploitation of women.

However, you won’t see Feminists picketing porn theatres, porn shops, you won’t see them delivering fire and brimstone sermons condemning pornography, you won’t see them voting in candidates who want to ban pornography, you won’t see them intimidating advertisers who advertise on pornographic shows etc.

There are a small number of Feminists who are opposed to pornography. Feminism is a big field, contrary to what some people think. For instance, did you know that there is an anti-abortion group, Feminists for Life?

But the anti-abortion or anti-pornography factions within Feminism are tiny and not influential, they do not represent the mainstream Feminism.
All that says to me is that they have a higher priority than the religious reasons for being against porn, not that they don't have a religious reason for being against porn. ASSumptions again, Joke. You really should quit ASSuming so much.
BTW, have you not heard the term "porn objectifies women" before? It was a phrase initiated by feminists and is quite common now. You are dead wrong about feminists not being against porn.
Also, BTW, you wouldn't have known about Fems for Life if I hadn't corrected you in the thread about when life starts. You stated that feminist women being lefties are prochoice and I said not all of them and posted the link to their site. You slithered off to some other thread after that like you do sometimes when corrected.
 
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And just exactly what is wrong with anything I said in my post, Ronald? I mean, ironsides?


You quote so many things about America that you really know nothing about, and have admitted it at times. (like I was never there, but I read a poll, or I heard someone else say, never did it myself though, do not know one personally etc.) Typical liberal knowledge base. Ronnie was right.

Perfect example of what Ronnie meant. You are just parroting those who want to try and create a divide between the races, you just do not get it. The liberal's are running scared as usual, play a nice ame of peek a boo. Academia snob is another good definition for some of you. You don't have a strangle hold on education up there.