British soldier faces disciplinary action after hacking off Taliban's head

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The British Army's Gurkhas have again shown why they are the world's most fearsome fighting force.

A Gurkha is facing displinary action after hacking off the head of a Taliban soldier in a fierce firefight between the British and insurgents in the Babaji area of central Helmand Province earlier this month.

The Gurkhas, Britain's oldest and greatest allies, had intended to remove the Taliban leader’s body from the battlefield for identification purposes.

But they came under heavy fire as their tried to do so. Military sources said that in the heat of battle, the Gurkha took out his curved kukri knife and beheaded the dead insurgent.

The kukri knife used by the Gurkhas is a curved knife which has been used by the Nepalese for centuries. It can be used either as a tool or as a close combat weapon - it can be used to kill an enemy instantly by slashing his throat. It is also the national symbol of Nepal.

Unfortunately, for the Taliban, legend states that a Gurkha "never sheathes his blade without first drawing blood."

He's now been ordered back to the UK to face displinary action - despite the fact that the majority of the British people would feel that he has done nothing wrong.

The Gurkhas come from Nepal and northern India and have been fighting for the British for 200 years. In 1815, Britain and Nepal went to war after Britain annexed minor states surrounding Nepal and incorporated them into the British Empire. At first the British underestimated the Nepalese and were badly defeated until committing more military resources than they had anticipated needing. Nepal then became part of the British Empire. But the British were so impressed by the bravery and valour of the Nepalese warriors that they hired them to fight for the British East India Company and then later the British Army itself. Nepal gained its independence from Britain in 1923.

Nowadays, it is the dream of young Nepalese boys, living in extreme poverty, to join the British Army and hundreds are put through extreme physical fitness tests each year in order to join up.

Gurkha ordered back to UK after beheading dead Taliban fighter

By Christopher Leake
18th July 2010
Daily Mail


Royal Gurkha Rifles

A Gurkha soldier has been flown back to the UK after hacking the head off a dead Taliban commander with his ceremonial knife to prove the dead man’s identity.

The private, from 1st Battalion, Royal Gurkha Rifles, was involved in a fierce firefight with insurgents in the Babaji area of central Helmand Province when the incident took place earlier this month.

His unit had been told that they were seeking a ‘high value target,’ a Taliban commander, and that they must prove they had killed the right man.


Deadly: A platoon of British Army Gurkhas demonstrate their skill with their kukri knives in a training exercise, after it is revealed that one of their regiment chopped off the head of a Taliban fighter in order to find proof of ID. Legend states that a Gurkha "never sheathes his blade without first drawing blood."

The Gurkhas had intended to remove the Taliban leader’s body from the battlefield for identification purposes.

But they came under heavy fire as their tried to do so. Military sources said that in the heat of battle, the Gurkha took out his curved kukri knife and beheaded the dead insurgent.

He is understood to have removed the man’s head from the area, leaving the rest of his body on the battlefield.

This is considered a gross insult to the Muslims of Afghanistan, who bury the entire body of their dead even if parts have to be retrieved.

British soldiers often return missing body parts once a battle has ended so the dead can be buried in one piece.

A source said: ‘Removing the head in this way was totally inappropriate.’

Army sources said that the soldier, who is in his early 20s, initially told investigators that he unsheathed his kukri – the symbolic weapon of the Gurkhas – after running out of ammunition.


A Nepalese kukri knife. British Army Gurkhas are armed with them.

But later the Taliban fighter was mutilated so his identity could be verified through DNA tests.

The source said: ‘The soldier has been removed from duty and flown home. There is no sense of glory involved here, more a sense of shame. He should not have done what he did.’

The incident, which is being investigated by senior commanders, is hugely embarrassing to the British Army, which is trying to build bridges with local Afghan communities who have spent decades under ­Taliban rule.


Britain oldest allies: There are 4,000 Gurkhas in the British Army

It comes just days after a rogue Afghan soldier murdered three British troops from the same Gurkha regiment.

If the Gurkha being investigated by the Army is found guilty of beheading the dead enemy soldier, he will have contravened the Geneva Conventions which dictate the rules of war. Soldiers are banned from demeaning their enemies.

The Gurkha now faces disciplinary action and a possible court martial. If found guilty, he could be jailed.

He is now confined to barracks at the Shorncliffe garrison, near Folkestone, Kent.

The incident happened as the Gurkha troop was advancing towards a hostile area before engaging the enemy in battle.

Colonel Richard Kemp, a former commander of British forces in Afghanistan, said: ‘In this case, it appears that the ­soldier was not acting maliciously, but his actions were clearly ill-judged.

‘The Gurkhas are a very fine regiment with a proud tradition of service in the British forces and have fought very bravely in Afghanistan.

'I have no doubt that this behaviour would be as strongly condemned by the other members of that regiment, as it would by all soldiers in the British forces.’

A Ministry of Defence spokesman said: ‘We are aware of an incident and have informed the Afghan authorities. An inves-t­igation is underway and it would not be appropriate to comment further until this is concluded.’

The Ministry also revealed yesterday that four British servicemen had been killed in Afghanistan in 24 hours.

An airman from the RAF Regiment died in a road accident near Camp Bastion in Helmand and a marine from 40 Commando Royal Marines was killed in an explosion in Sangin on Friday.

A Royal Dragoon Guard died in a blast in the Nahr-e Saraj district of Helmand Province yesterday. The fourth serviceman also died in an explosion.

The British death toll in the Afghan campaign since 2001 is now 322.

Afghan troops trained by the British Army recently led a major operation into a Taliban stronghold.

It was one of the first operations organised by the Afghan National Army.

Regiment’s proud symbol of valour

The iconic kukri knife used by the Gurkhas can be a weapon or a tool. It is the traditional utility knife of the Nepalese people, but is mainly known as a symbolic weapon for Gurkha regiments all over the world.

The kukri signifies courage and valour on the battlefield and is sometimes worn by bridegrooms during their wedding ceremony.

The kukri’s heavy blade enables the user to inflict deep wounds and to cut muscle and bone with one stroke.

It can also be used in stealth operations to slash an enemy’s throat, killing him instantly and silently.

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Colpy

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Ludicrous.

War is not a pretty sight, and warriors are not social workers.

Remember the Canadian sniper disciplined for pinning a sign to the head of a dead Tqaliban?....it read "F34K terrorism".

The horror.

Or the poor Canadian Captain now on trial for the mercy killing of a severely injured Taliban.

We have become such pansies.......

Whoa. Talk about giving them a taste of their own medicine!

Yeah, except this guy was dead when they took his head........in Malaysia, back in the 50s, The Gurkhas were operating deep in the jungle........they took heads for later ID, instead of taking prisoners........

A VERY tough bunch.
 

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The guy should be getting a medal for clear thinking under fire. The problem is all the pansy lefties running our governments. No sense of reality.
One of the army guys I used to work with said that when they were in Bosnia the rules of engagement sent from Ottawa would change every day. Often they were downright dangerous such as not being allowed to have a loaded rifle while on patrol. How stupid is that?
 

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I got a kukri knife too.... nasty little things.

Perhaps if it's their religious belief to bury someone's body intact with all it's parts, maybe they should stop kidnapping and beheading people while they're alive.

I mean, haven't there been incidences in various Afghan villages where headless bodies were left as examples to those in the village to not betray them?

Where are the heads for those bodies?

This is one of those situations where I couldn't give a damn about the headless Taliban and the
Gurkha should be set free.
 
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first thing first.... this Christopher Leake who has written about the history of Gurkha.. he's totally got it wrong... Nepal was never under British Government... probably because he is british guy and wants to protect his country's pride he's written it like that... but infact... the truth was and is that... after British took over India they thought they'd easily take over Nepal b'cause it's such a small neighbor country when u compare with India... so they attacked Nepal...but they had no idea how brave n fine warriors the Gurkhas were and they lost the battle... infact they could not capture Nepal and Nepal was NEVER...NEVER under British Empire....infact after the battle the British were so impressed with the Gurkhas that they made a contract to hire Gurkhas every year.

So...Mr Christopher... please amend what you've written about the Nepalese and British History.. because Nepal was Never Under British to gain Independence from them in 1923..you are just getting confused with India .. so a piece of advice ...Don't write about things that you dont know about...

now, ...coming to my another point here...

it's ridiculous.... those ppl who are sitting back at their home comfortably sipping the tea and thinking that war is just a game of monopoly and court marshaling this soldier for following his order under such pressure where his own life was in danger is ****ing stupid... they should be sent to the front line..and should be under fire... then they'll know how it is to be in their shoe...
 

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Are fingers okay to hack off?
No Petros - we are required to follow the Laws of War, Geneva Convention, desecrating bodies is not permitted - But would not a little blood for DNA check have done the trick?
 

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Mr. Blackleaf...
Nepal was ruled by British empire ..... Was that a joke ??? Despite the heavily armed force of British east india company... they couldnt deafeat evn 600 gorkha soldiers until they cut off the water supplies to the fort where gurkhas stayed....
Nepal is not a big country or rich country...but it has got its own pride... own rituals... own beliefs..!!!
Even in the history of British army...!! No once can ever forget the role of Gorkhali's !!...
Prince Harry found gorkhali troops to be the safest and friendlies tropps to be with in afaganisthan....!!
well.. talking about the bravery of gorkhali's .... every words of praise would be less..!!

And regarding the current situation..
IF you dont like any thing change it, if you cant change, accept it.. but dont make it a subject to chat instead...!!! Its really easy to talk looking at the news...!! just think of the situation what must be going through the soldiers who were facing the intense bullets from enemy...!!
or what do you expect from that soldier ?? should he just ask a drop of blood from the enemy and pass it to the so called higher rank guys for DNA test.... !!! ... if its so easy... why dont you guys go yourself and ask it..!!! ITS WAR... and you cant expect everything in your ways..!!
Let's see the consequences of this thing.... but one thing is sure....THE GORKHALI'S HEAD WILL ALWAYS HELD HIGH...!!!
"BRAVERY is BORN RIGHT OF A GORKHALI "
 

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Thanks for that! Brace yourself for some opposition - and Welcome Aboard!

haha.a... thanks man...and im ready for any opposition on that matter...coz' u can't change history ...it's the truth...and if some people think that just because of their pride/ego they can write anything ..then i know people who have read history properly will certainly agree with me as well...

and for those people who think u can take blood sample for DNA sampling of highly wanted terrorist in Afghanistan when u r under fire attack then....u make me laugh... plus...do u think they have DNA sample of that dead guy or what?? Afghan is no Uk or USA or any other European country where they keep DNA sample of criminals/terrorist..

btw....i'd like to thank and appreciate Mr. idpain for his knowledge about Nepalese history.. cheers to ya mate..
 

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Mr. Blackleaf...
Nepal was ruled by British empire ..... Was that a joke ???

Well Mr. Blackleaf is our resident Brit and you will get these Brit Spams from time to time.

I am doubtful you'll get a response.