B.P.'s Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill Thread (it's all here).....

MHz

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Too bad there wasn't one central authority and regulatory body to handle environmental matters just like this leak. I can't help but think that a central global governing body of some sort could have prevented this leak, possibly through taxation.
This is their 'fire-drill', see what doesn't work and then do what should have been done in the beginning. (they will get to the hay once they can drive the price of it up enough so the middle-men make the most money. (then it becomes a black-market item) At least they have a new garbage-pit in the making, saves them barging it out to deeper water. They should save their offshore drilling for the colder climates, colder air should make the cleanup (burning in place) easier as it should be thicker just by being colder. Perhaps the shrimp farmers would be interested in some property on the shores of the Hudson Bay. Shrimping in the summer and hauling ice down south in the winter. Make all of James Bay one big Bourbon Street 24/7/365 and watch the French go after the French immigrants.

Why not plant some bombs in some shallow holes (yes holes) around the main shaft even before drilling starts and then if the BOP and such fail the bombs could be remoted and that would 'collapse the pipe' at a dept of 100 ft or so. Ruins the hole but no spill. The bombs could be moved with the rig or left in place if fracking is planned for more zones.
 

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Criminal Negligence: Despite Knowing It Had a Damaged Blowout Preventer, BP STILL Cut Corners By Removing the Single Most Important Safety Measure


Wednesday, 19 May 2010 06:28



'UC Berkeley engineering professor Bob Bea told 60 Minutes that a damaged blowout preventer not only may lead to a catastrophic accident like the Gulf oil spill, but leads to inaccurate pressure readings, so that the well operator doesn't know the real situation, and cannot keep the rig safe.
Bea also said that - despite the damage - BP ordered the rig operator to ignore an even more critical safety measure. Specifically, BP ordered the rig operator to remove the "drilling mud" - a heavy liquid used to keep oil and gas from escaping - before the well was sealed. According to Bea, the accident would not have occurred had drilling mud been used.'
Read more: Criminal Negligence: Despite Knowing It Had a Damaged Blowout Preventer, BP STILL Cut Corners By Removing the Single Most Important Safety Measure
 

ironsides

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Those newsmen should just get out of the way and let the Coast Guard and other get on with the clean up, they don't know how to report the news right anyway. Plenty of time to report nonsensical news later at the office.
 

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Those newsmen should just get out of the way and let the Coast Guard and other get on with the clean up, they don't know how to report the news right anyway. Plenty of time to report nonsensical news later at the office.
well. at least they are making an effort to get some coverage......not just parroting whatever they are told to say.

New BP Insertion Tube Isn't Working

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BP's new insertion tube inside the leaking oil pipe - unfortunately - isn't doing very much.
Specifically, the Miami Herald points out that - according to the Coast Guard - the spill is getting worse in spite of the insertion tube:
 

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2010 Gulf Oil Event : Primer, Videos, Updates

A volcano of oil erupting



A volcano of oil erupting

New video showing largest hole from pipe 5 feet in diameter spewing oil and natural gas at ~4 barrels per second, along with analysis of the amount of oil on the surface, supports the estimates closer to 1 million barrels per day erupting from this hole BP popped in the ocean floor that contains trillions of barrels of oil and natural gas.
more................
BP Slick: A volcano of oil erupting
 

AnnaG

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WOW There is nothing like gross exaggeration: a million bbls a day? Not according to scientists. They say it is more like about 50,000 bbls a day:

Oil leak greater than first estimates, BP admits - Americas, World - The Independent

The field is trillions of bbls? Not according to the geologists. The proven oil reserves of all of North America are only about 210 billion bbls of oil.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/reserves.html

Someone can't tell the difference between millions of bbls of oil and trillions of cubic feet of gas, but then what can you expect from wackos' blogs?
No wonder you call yourself "Stretch".

Oh, yeah, and BTW, the pipe is not 5' in circumference let alone diameter. It's a 9 INCH diameter pipe.
 

ironsides

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well. at least they are making an effort to get some coverage......not just parroting whatever they are told to say.

New BP Insertion Tube Isn't Working


Tags: CURRENT EVENTS
BP's new insertion tube inside the leaking oil pipe - unfortunately - isn't doing very much.
Specifically, the Miami Herald points out that - according to the Coast Guard - the spill is getting worse in spite of the insertion tube:
As long as they cause no hindrance to the plugging of the well, I really don't care what they do. There are hundreds of boats running around trying to stop the oil, but BP was saying who was seeing what till congress stepped in the other day. Yes, the spill is much worse than originally reported.
 

MHz

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Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

well. at least they are making an effort to get some coverage......not just parroting whatever they are told to say.

New BP Insertion Tube Isn't Working

Tags: CURRENT EVENTS
BP's new insertion tube inside the leaking oil pipe - unfortunately - isn't doing very much.
Specifically, the Miami Herald points out that - according to the Coast Guard - the spill is getting worse in spite of the insertion tube:

Perhaps they should be forcing things down the tube that could eventually clog in the pipe or use two tubes that can mix two substances inside the mail pipe, like expanding foam.
 

Stretch

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Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

WOW There is nothing like gross exaggeration: a million bbls a day? Not according to scientists. They say it is more like about 50,000 bbls a day:

Oil leak greater than first estimates, BP admits - Americas, World - The Independent

The field is trillions of bbls? Not according to the geologists. The proven oil reserves of all of North America are only about 210 billion bbls of oil.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/reserves.html

Someone can't tell the difference between millions of bbls of oil and trillions of cubic feet of gas, but then what can you expect from wackos' blogs?
No wonder you call yourself "Stretch".

Oh, yeah, and BTW, the pipe is not 5' in circumference let alone diameter. It's a 9 INCH diameter pipe.

so we've been told......but if my memory serves me correctly, we were also told that saddam had wmd, but that turned out to be a load of bull****, we were also told the a frail old man in a cave in afghanistan with a cellfone orchestrated 911, that turned out to be crap. We were also told that we were the cause of global warming, that too has turned out to be another loud of crap heaped on us peasants.......
 

Socrates the Greek

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Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

Was BP in Bushes back pocket?, for the Bush administration not to insure safe oil drilling. BP is on record not taking appropriate steps on safeguards to insure this would have not happened.
YouTube - Weekly Address: BP Spill Independent Commission#!


Later during the 2000 election, BP exerted significant influence over politics through its campaign contributions. That is not too surprising when you consider that in the late 1990s BP had acquired Amoco and Atlantic Richfield, two companies which had been players on the U.S. electoral scene and which had made political contributions. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, BP ranked fourth amongst oil and gas company contributors in the 2000 elections, with donations totaling $1.1 million. Two thirds of that amount went to the GOP

BP?s Oily Political Connections: from the Bush to Obama Era
 

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Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

More like the other way around. Junior had his hand in all the oil companies back pocket.
When the regulatory body is also the royalty collector there is an obvious conflict of interest.
 

L Gilbert

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Perhaps they should be forcing things down the tube that could eventually clog in the pipe or use two tubes that can mix two substances inside the mail pipe, like expanding foam.
That's what they are going to do according to the latest news.
Personally I would send down a balloon on the end of a hose into the pipe and then pump seawater into the balloon under high pressure.

so we've been told......but if my memory serves me correctly, we were also told that saddam had wmd, but that turned out to be a load of bull****, we were also told the a frail old man in a cave in afghanistan with a cellfone orchestrated 911, that turned out to be crap. We were also told that we were the cause of global warming, that too has turned out to be another loud of crap heaped on us peasants.......
Oh I understand. So you think the feds relaxed the laws to enable BP to go against standards and install larger pipe than normal for some obscure reason.
You think there's a conspiracy of geologists to fool the gov't, other scientists, the public, etc. into thinking there isn't as much oil there.
As Anna said, it is no wonder you call yourself "Stretch": the stuff you post is pretty stretched (bulemically thin).
 

Socrates the Greek

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Re: Did Bush neglect strict laws on oil drilling due to favouritism?

More like the other way around. Junior had his hand in all the oil companies back pocket.
When the regulatory body is also the royalty collector there is an obvious conflict of interest.
Based on that I think that BP will not pay the total clean up bill, and the American tax payer will be on the hook for most of the cost as well the compensation to their livelihoods‘.
 
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L Gilbert

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Ron valid question? take a look at others who are doing the same thing over and over JLM is one Black leaf another come on man what's with you people, you are becoming the most unfriendly bunch on the net.:canada:
Ah. He's switched from "Them bad, we good" to "I can do it because others have done it".
Jump off the Golden Gate Bridge, Soc.