B.P.'s Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill Thread (it's all here).....

[ironsides]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

Wonder how they are going to remove those oil balls sitting on the bottom? Can it be sucked up and destroyed or distill into a usable item or can we just blow it up? Definatly a long term problem.

 

[Stretch]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

I wonder why people can't just post the first paragraph or a summary of an article and the link rather than posting the entire article. Like we can't read the article outside of CanCon?
Well, at least it wasn't one of those 5 page articles or something.

just read the 1st paragraph then, and then go to the link............... tis really quite simple

 

[Stretch]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

Gulf oil spill: real disaster might be lurking beneath the surface

Tags:

• SCIENCE/HEALTH/CLIMATE/NATURE

The research, combined with other emerging data, could fundamentally alter researchers’ understanding of the oil spill. It suggests that vastly more oil than previously reported could be spilling from the wellhead and the attached riser pipe that now lies crumpled on the seafloor like a kinked and leaking garden hose.
Moreover, it suggests that serious environmental degradation could take place in the open ocean, creating massive “dead zones” where no creature can live because of the lack of oxygen in the water.

 

[Stretch]

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Obama's Gulf Eco-Catastrophe, Far Worse than Katrina, More Like a Hiroshima;

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• CURRENT EVENTS
• POLITICS/ELECTIONS/CORRUPTION
• SCIENCE/HEALTH/CLIMATE/NATURE

History will view Obama's response as too little, too late, too passive. New findings by a research vessel with a grant that ran out today show walls of oil-saturated death, miles long and wide, depleting oxygen from ocean water.
Webmaster's Commentary:
What appears to be happening is that the 5000 feet of water above the wellhead is functioning as a natural cracking tower. What we are seeing on the surface are the lighter petroleum molecules trapped in hydrates, showing various colors from tan to red. Lower in the depths, plumes of denser and heavier petroleum chemicals appear to be trapped in the thermocline and other layered currents, meaning that what is seen on the surface of the gulf, already covering some 5000 square miles, is not the totality of the disaster.

 

[darkbeaver]

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Nice clean natural oil is one hundred percent bio-degradable. The crisis is not an "environmental crisis". Sure it looks bad for a while but in a few decades it's all better again and besides extinction events have often been far more dramatic than this and life flourishes again just like nothing out of the ordinary happened at all, because it didn't. It's a crisis of skewed human perspective and nothing else. It may be opportunistic but there is value in crisis.

 

[MHz]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

Nice clean natural oil is one hundred percent bio-degradable. The crisis is not an "environmental crisis". Sure it looks bad for a while but in a few decades it's all better again and besides extinction events have often been far more dramatic than this and life flourishes again just like nothing out of the ordinary happened at all, because it didn't. It's a crisis of skewed human perspective and nothing else. It may be opportunistic but there is value in crisis.

How many bbls were dumped on the Grand Banks during the 2 WW's. perhaps that took more of the young than the International fishing trawlers. Lose a generation or two and over-fishing is the least of the problems.

Perhaps Monsanto can get some samples once the pipe has been plugged and they can bio engineer some 'harmless microbes' to feast on the 'problem' in one fell swoop.

So would flax or hemp straw work best? I'm leaning to muskeg that has been squeezed dry of it's moisture and the once the 'shrink-wrap' is broken it 'inflates to 27.5 time its volume and it can hold much sludge for collection and processing, like the inner core of a water-proof sea barrier that is about 86 ft tall. Only problem with that is all the 'excessive by-products' fresh water with plant nutrients. Everyplace you try to dispose it thing .... grow?

The area that will need 'scrubbing' is as far as any hurricane based flood has ever reached with it's storm surge. This just seems to be pooling for one onslaught of 50M gallons over a 3 days, one of those every 3 months till the leak is plugged.
Then there is the possibility that the 'rescue efforts' unplug the slow leak that it is now and it becomes a 'howler' where 10 nukes would be considered 'within reasonable measures'.

Good thing God is with America, they just entered the realm of events that rival the Bible in scale and magnitude. Think what nuclear heat mixed with water and oil will come up with as a by product to a millions degrees rise in temperature and similar pressures. Pop goes the weasel.

At least this time they will accept aid from other countries. A blast like that should shift the northern boundary of the gulf up a few States and the blast wave will make sure the land is at least 'flat' for some distance past that. The sooner the destruction is over the sooner the 'healing' can begin.

Perhaps a barrage of some of Iran's hi-speed torpedoes before the N_Option is the only one left on the table. Don't want too many to see nuclear as the best option for most of the 'problems' of TPTB

 

[Liberalman]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

But she noted that with the spill moving toward land, the impact on Louisiana's coastline, which contains some 40% of the nation's wetlands and spawning grounds for countless fish and birds, had to be considered.

There should be a moratorium on deep sea oil well drilling until there is a more efficient way of dealing with this type of oil leak

 

[TenPenny]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

Nice clean natural oil is one hundred percent bio-degradable. The crisis is not an "environmental crisis". Sure it looks bad for a while but in a few decades it's all better again and besides extinction events have often been far more dramatic than this and life flourishes again just like nothing out of the ordinary happened at all, because it didn't. It's a crisis of skewed human perspective and nothing else. It may be opportunistic but there is value in crisis.

A few decades? Define 'a few'...

 

[JLM]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

There should be a moratorium on deep sea oil well drilling until there is a more efficient way of dealing with this type of oil leak

Yep, given the size of this disaster some drastic action has to be taken. For starters I think they should have all the equipment to fix the disaster should be right on site ready to implement- not three weeks later.

 

[Tonington]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

Having more than one shaft would be a good idea. Having a working blowout preventor would be another. And lastly having some actual regulatory oversight would greatly improve matters.

 

[Stretch]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

There should be a moratorium on deep sea oil well drilling until there is a more efficient way of dealing with this type of oil leak

thats a bit like shutting the gate after the horse has bolted......

 

[JLM]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

thats a bit like shutting the gate after the horse has bolted......

Or more like a whole herd of horses. :smile::smile:

 

[ironsides]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

Nice clean natural oil is one hundred percent bio-degradable. The crisis is not an "environmental crisis". Sure it looks bad for a while but in a few decades it's all better again and besides extinction events have often been far more dramatic than this and life flourishes again just like nothing out of the ordinary happened at all, because it didn't. It's a crisis of skewed human perspective and nothing else. It may be opportunistic but there is value in crisis.

How long will this pure natural oil on the bottom of the Caribbean take to disburse? Maybe biodegradable, but it will take years for the Earth to clean itself up.

 

[ironsides]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

Good News, Bad News From Gulf Oil Spill

9 hours ago - CBS 2 / KCAL 9 Los Angeles 1:55 | 4067 views


The good news is that BP says a tube to siphon off gas is working better than expected Terrell Brown reports.



Good News, Bad News From Gulf Oil Spill

 

[darkbeaver]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

Once those oil eating microbes have fattened on the raw oil the fish will eat well and the whales and the birds and then us. Nothing is wasted. There is no crisis. Stay in your seats remain calm.

 

[darkbeaver]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

How many bbls were dumped on the Grand Banks during the 2 WW's. perhaps that took more of the young than the International fishing trawlers. Lose a generation or two and over-fishing is the least of the problems.

Perhaps Monsanto can get some samples once the pipe has been plugged and they can bio engineer some 'harmless microbes' to feast on the 'problem' in one fell swoop.

So would flax or hemp straw work best? I'm leaning to muskeg that has been squeezed dry of it's moisture and the once the 'shrink-wrap' is broken it 'inflates to 27.5 time its volume and it can hold much sludge for collection and processing, like the inner core of a water-proof sea barrier that is about 86 ft tall. Only problem with that is all the 'excessive by-products' fresh water with plant nutrients. Everyplace you try to dispose it thing .... grow?

The area that will need 'scrubbing' is as far as any hurricane based flood has ever reached with it's storm surge. This just seems to be pooling for one onslaught of 50M gallons over a 3 days, one of those every 3 months till the leak is plugged.
Then there is the possibility that the 'rescue efforts' unplug the slow leak that it is now and it becomes a 'howler' where 10 nukes would be considered 'within reasonable measures'.

Good thing God is with America, they just entered the realm of events that rival the Bible in scale and magnitude. Think what nuclear heat mixed with water and oil will come up with as a by product to a millions degrees rise in temperature and similar pressures. Pop goes the weasel.

At least this time they will accept aid from other countries. A blast like that should shift the northern boundary of the gulf up a few States and the blast wave will make sure the land is at least 'flat' for some distance past that. The sooner the destruction is over the sooner the 'healing' can begin.

Perhaps a barrage of some of Iran's hi-speed torpedoes before the N_Option is the only one left on the table. Don't want too many to see nuclear as the best option for most of the 'problems' of TPTB

Too bad there wasn't one central authority and regulatory body to handle environmental matters just like this leak. I can't help but think that a central global governing body of some sort could have prevented this leak, possibly through taxation.

 

[s_lone]

See the oil spill

See the oil spill for yourself.

YouTube - Amateur Video Of Gulf Oil Slick - Worse Than BP Admits

I put this in International Politics because I think humanity as a whole must be concerned by such an environmental disaster.

When will we have international LAWS concerning the ecosystem we are a part of?

 

[Stretch]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

'Leaking Oil to Reach Atlantic Ocean'


Tuesday, 18 May 2010 05:48

'The oil spill from a British Petroleum (BP) sunken rig in the Gulf of Mexico may have reached a major current in the Atlantic Ocean, scientists say.
Computer models show the oil may have already entered a water stream, known as the 'loop current,' which could propel plumes of oil into the Atlantic Ocean, William Hogarth, a researcher at the University of South Florida's College of Marine Science said on Sunday, the Associated Press reported.'
Read more: 'Leaking Oil to Reach Atlantic Ocean'

 

[Slim Chance]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

Too bad there wasn't one central authority and regulatory body to handle environmental matters just like this leak. I can't help but think that a central global governing body of some sort could have prevented this leak, possibly through taxation.

You mean like David Suzuki but with the power to tax?... Wouldn' that just be utopia?

 

[Tonington]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

Yes slim, that's probably what he meant, global governing body=David Suzuki.