B.P.'s Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill Thread (it's all here).....

[MHz]

The only incompetence shown here has been by British Petroleum, just another proof that facts mean nothing to a few of you.

Then why was the Federal Gov the ones who were supposed to have fire booms within close range as part of the 'protection from spills from any drilling rig, not just the ones owned by BP?

 

[EagleSmack]

Well the yanks will attempt to cover up their in competence...

BP= British Petroleum


BP plc is a British global energy company that is also the third largest global energy company and the 4th largest company in the world. As a multinational oil company ("oil major") BP is the UK's largest corporation, with its headquarters in St James's, City of Westminster, London


:lol:

 

[MHz]

Anyway, if that dome is useless because of hydrates could pumping warmer water down to raise the temp of the dome be enough to prevent the formations of the hydrates.

Hydrates are not a bad by product if it can be harvested in that form.

 

[ironsides]

Then why was the Federal Gov the ones who were supposed to have fire booms within close range as part of the 'protection from spills from any drilling rig, not just the ones owned by BP?

Another mistake, that no President even thought about appointing someone who actually knew what had to be done. Than again none of the respected companies that installed rigs installed them either, and supposedly knew the laws, did nothing either. BP could have always asked "Hey Prez, do any of these rigs have those protective booms congress mandated years ago?)


Wonder if pumping boiling hot water into the container as it is going over the well would keep hydrates from forming?

 

[MHz]

Another mistake, that no President even thought about appointing someone who actually knew what had to be done. Than again none of the respected companies that installed rigs installed them either, and supposedly knew the laws, did nothing either. BP could have always asked "Hey Prez, do any of these rigs have those protective booms congress mandated years ago?)

They were part of the shore protection, the sea-floor BOP's were the safety feature each rig has, that was part of the Governments responsibility.

NBC, msnbc.com and news services
updated 5:40 p.m. MT, Mon., May 3, 2010

As the Gulf Coast oil spill response team scrambled on Monday to get special fire booms to corral and then burn the slick, key questions surfaced: Were any of those booms even in the area? And if not, should they have been, given a 1994 plan produced for federal agencies to deal with such a scenario?
The Coast Guard did not immediately respond to phone calls by msnbc.com about whether spill response plans required having fire booms nearby. The Press-Register of Mobile, Ala., reported Monday that no booms were available immediately after the Deepwater Horizon rig sank and started leaking oil on April 22.

Think how much easier the slick could be gathered my implementing that straw suggestion from the boys in NASCAR country. Not doing it would seem to mean they want it out of control and uncollectable.

Wonder if pumping boiling hot water into the container as it is going over the well would keep hydrates from forming?

Park a 'N' sub next to it and throw out some heavy cables and the thing could be made cherry fuking red if that is what it takes.

 

[Tonington]

 

[ironsides]

Florida Oil Spill Crisis Update It has been more than 20 days since the Deepwater Horizon oil spill began leaking an estimated 200,000 gallons of oil a day into the Gulf of Mexico. This spill continues, unabated - threatening to soil marine wildlife, coastal communities, and sensitive habitat from Louisiana's Birdfoot Delta to the Florida Keys.
Three weeks into this spill, we are facing the very real potential for this spill to continue for two months or more until relief wells are completed. All the while, millions of gallons of oil will continue to spill into our coastal waters, leaving our shorelines, fisheries and tourist destinations at great environmental and economic risk.
Oil has not yet reached our shores, but we have already heard reports of the economic impact on Florida. Hotel reservations are being cancelled. Charter fishing trips that were booked months in advance have been postponed indefinitely. And the local economies that depend on annual summer tourism are anxious they will lose business this season and next season, and go out of business.

 

[AnnaG]

Florida Oil Spill Crisis Update It has been more than 20 days since the Deepwater Horizon oil spill began leaking an estimated 200,000 gallons of oil a day into the Gulf of Mexico. This spill continues, unabated - threatening to soil marine wildlife, coastal communities, and sensitive habitat from Louisiana's Birdfoot Delta to the Florida Keys.
Three weeks into this spill, we are facing the very real potential for this spill to continue for two months or more until relief wells are completed. All the while, millions of gallons of oil will continue to spill into our coastal waters, leaving our shorelines, fisheries and tourist destinations at great environmental and economic risk.
Oil has not yet reached our shores, but we have already heard reports of the economic impact on Florida. Hotel reservations are being cancelled. Charter fishing trips that were booked months in advance have been postponed indefinitely. And the local economies that depend on annual summer tourism are anxious they will lose business this season and next season, and go out of business.

... and when it is all over and done with everyone will carry on as if nothing happened and it'll happen all over again, except some people's livelihood will be in shambles, we'll have screwed up the natural order of things in various ecologies, etc. Ain't oil profits peachy?

 

[ironsides]

... and when it is all over and done with everyone will carry on as if nothing happened and it'll happen all over again, except some people's livelihood will be in shambles, we'll have screwed up the natural order of things in various ecologies, etc. Ain't oil profits peachy?

Yup, and it is a shame that the beaches will be lose their snowy white color for hundreds of years, and look like Texas and California. But as you said, life will go on and nothing will change, except the ecology will be a little more damaged.

 

[MHz]

Think how much faster people will get that Caribbean tan. They are most likely waiting till the no-bid 50yr cleanup contract is pushing 10 T

 

[MHz]

... and when it is all over and done with everyone will carry on as if nothing happened and it'll happen all over again, except some people's livelihood will be in shambles, we'll have screwed up the natural order of things in various ecologies, etc. Ain't oil profits peachy?

To be fair the BOP should have meant a blowout with no spill of any size, how do they know more won't fail at some point in time.

 

[AnnaG]

To be fair the BOP should have meant a blowout with no spill of any size, how do they know more won't fail at some point in time.

I guess they don't, but when it happens again, it'd be nice if there was some sort of way to contain the oil rather than letting it spew everywhere. Something like a big concrete box or something. A bid floating tank? Something would work.
But like I said before, BP's first quarter profits were almost 3 times its last quarter profits. It's more fun going golfing, buying yachts and corporate jets than developing anti-spew technologies I guess.

 

[MHz]

I guess they don't, but when it happens again, it'd be nice if there was some sort of way to contain the oil rather than letting it spew everywhere. Something like a big concrete box or something. A bid floating tank? Something would work.
But like I said before, BP's first quarter profits were almost 3 times its last quarter profits. It's more fun going golfing, buying yachts and corporate jets than developing anti-spew technologies I guess.

Didn't you read the article about their insurance claim that paid off at something like 470M and from what the rig was worth and the 200M they are setting aside for claim settlements they net a 70M profit, somebody is in line for a nice bonus as strange as that sounds.

 

[AnnaG]

Didn't you read the article about their insurance claim that paid off at something like 470M and from what the rig was worth and the 200M they are setting aside for claim settlements they net a 70M profit, somebody is in line for a nice bonus as strange as that sounds.

Yes, I did. Why do you ask? $470 million is chumpchange to BP.

 

[MHz]

Just curious, you mentioned the quarterly earnings

 

[AnnaG]

Just curious, you mentioned the quarterly earnings

Yes, I did. I posted the numbers quite a few threads ago. Without looking, I remember that they went from $2+billion profits in their last quarter to $6+billion in profits in their first quarter this year. Like I said, $470million is chumpchange to them
What might make them perk their ears up is a fat $10billion fine.

 

[Stretch]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

Gulf oil gusher ‘ten times worse’ than previously estimated, experts say

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So this is why BP's release of video showing the Gulf oil gusher was mysteriously delayed.
According to a scientific analysis of footage from the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, National Public Radio is claiming the growing ecological disaster is actually ten times worse than previously estimated, saying the rushing torrent of oil pouring into the ocean is equivalent to one Exxon-Valdez spill every four days.
That's more than 70,000 barrels a day -- when the U.S. Coast Guard had placed the figure at a seemingly modest 5,000 barrels a day.

Webmaster's Commentary:
This is a disaster, and every single company which chose not to use the standards and practices necessary to prevent something like this from happening should be held completely responsible, and penalized.

 

[earth_as_one]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

Latest news regarding scale:

Scientists Find Giant Plumes of Oil Forming Under the Gulf
Jim Wilson/The New York Times

Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar visited a wildlife treatment center in Louisiana on Saturday.
By JUSTIN GILLIS
Published: May 15, 2010

Scientists are finding enormous oil plumes in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico, including one as large as 10 miles long, 3 miles wide and 300 feet thick in spots. The discovery is fresh evidence that the leak from the broken undersea well could be substantially worse than estimates that the government and BP have given.

“There’s a shocking amount of oil in the deep water, relative to what you see in the surface water,” said Samantha Joye, a researcher at the University of Georgia who is involved in one of the first scientific missions to gather details about what is happening in the gulf. “There’s a tremendous amount of oil in multiple layers, three or four or five layers deep in the water column.”

The plumes are depleting the oxygen dissolved in the gulf, worrying scientists, who fear that the oxygen level could eventually fall so low as to kill off much of the sea life near the plumes.

Dr. Joye said the oxygen had already dropped 30 percent near some of the plumes in the month that the broken oil well had been flowing. “If you keep those kinds of rates up, you could draw the oxygen down to very low levels that are dangerous to animals in a couple of months,” she said Saturday. “That is alarming.”

Giant Plumes of Oil Found Under Gulf of Mexico - NYTimes.com

 

[AnnaG]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

I wonder why people can't just post the first paragraph or a summary of an article and the link rather than posting the entire article. Like we can't read the article outside of CanCon?
Well, at least it wasn't one of those 5 page articles or something.

 

[MHz]

Re: US considers setting fire to Gulf of Mexico oil leak

I wonder why people can't just post the first paragraph or a summary of an article and the link rather than posting the entire article. Like we can't read the article outside of CanCon?
Well, at least it wasn't one of those 5 page articles or something.

Even it being posted once isn't really bad, it is overdone when the whole thing is quoted fully in a large volume of replies.