There's all kinds of disposable Chopsticks sold here and they all come from China-made from wood harvested in Siberia.
Poor growing conditions-it ain't the BC coast.
Attawapiskat in the news again...
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What makes the conditions poor for spruce and fir that have grown there quite nicely in the Boreal for the past 10,000+ years? The excessive sunshine?
Here is the real Attawapiskat...........
Work ethic needs to be learned at young age | Timmins Press
Work ethic needs to be learned at young age | Timmins Press
Asubpeeschoseewagong First Nations has made headway, but the issue is still before the courts, regarding First Nations proprietary rights to resources in traditional territory.
All this talk about saw mills presupposes they'd actually want to run one doesn't it? Bothered to check into their desire to involve themselves in this "self sufficiency" experiment have you?
I was once involved in a government program back in the early 60's teaching "them" how to build lapstrake workboats and would anyone care to guess how that worked out? After the first few weeks there they simply disappeared and we subsequenbtly found they had bought themselves train tickets back to the various reserves with their taxpayer provided living allowance.
Many attempts have been made over many decades to educate them in any number of skills based trades and virtually all attempts have ended the same way with lack of interest and commitment on their part. They'd rather not be faced with the same set of responsibilities associated with "our" cultural norms.
You are all forgetting they are paid to sit on their azz and do absolulety nothing. Git yer butts up to this crappy reserve and put your effort where your keyboard sits and tell them you're bringing in a job for every one of them and they'll tell you to your face in a Minnesota minute to take your job and shove it where the sun don't shine.
I was once involved in a government program back in the early 60's teaching "them" how to build lapstrake workboats and would anyone care to guess how that worked out? After the first few weeks there they simply disappeared and we subsequenbtly found they had bought themselves train tickets back to the various reserves with their taxpayer provided living allowance.
Many attempts have been made over many decades to educate them in any number of skills based trades and virtually all attempts have ended the same way with lack of interest and commitment on their part. They'd rather not be faced with the same set of responsibilities associated with "our" cultural norms.
You are all forgetting they are paid to sit on their azz and do absolulety nothing. Git yer butts up to this crappy reserve and put your effort where your keyboard sits and tell them you're bringing in a job for every one of them and they'll tell you to your face in a Minnesota minute to take your job and shove it where the sun don't shine.
Lapstrake boats went the way of the fur trade. There is no easy solution to relocating people from their pasts or providing employment so far from any market.
I guess you missed my point entirely didn't you? The skills they were being taught to build the lapstrakes would have carried over into any number of carpentry based endeavours and at that time Lapstrake boats were very durable and ice damage resistant AND could be built instead of purchased.
It was never solely about the boats; but they needed a finished product, something tangible to be trucked back to the reserves "see what I built while I was away". The boats would not end up stuffed into the back of a shed never to be seen again they would be very visible proof of a skillset learned that provided them with a useable item.
I should also mention that most of us involved in that program donated significant time and materials.
How much of your today attitude did you donate? Talking down to anyone (as you so well demonstrate) won't win any ears.
Well there you have it. I'm now in my late 60's and fed up with the amount of money that's been thrown at them that would have resulted in any other worthy venture being an unequivocal success.
I can assure you that back then I had no preconceptions about either their willingness or commitment; those have come with time and experience. Tell me that, in general, you can say without reservation (no pun intended) they have a good rep for either today.
Your assumption is completely unfair, but apparently helped you survive a man's logical conclusion.
I've done lots of construction work on various rezs over the years and know what you are saying. It can be very frustrating at times.
lol.... how much money did our government 'misplace' this year? I'm sorry, but money does not equal success when dealing with human well being. It doesn't guarantee success of any project.
Right on, Karrie, BUT when a taxpayer funded venture fails, a thorough review is in order to make damn sure there's not a recurrence. Of course one of the main problems is far too many bureaucrats in all levels of Gov't. covering each other's A$$es. I say redeploy (get rid) 2/3 of them!
The thing is, the treaties are not a tax payer funded venture, they are a contract on which we pay. There is no expectation of some delivered 'standard' from the First Nations in return for the money. What we get in return is the country. And considering that our government has money to lose, that country is paying out in spades. Our investment is a good one. We are not being duped on our end of the treaties, no matter how much some people like to begrudge aid to FN communities.
And then there are some who believe at some point we should just all be Canadians, equal in all matters including equal eligibility for benefits and equally responsible for contributing. Myself, I don't see a hell of a lot wrong with that.